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Edward Snowden Is Not Dead Despite Mysterious Tweets, Says Glenn Greenwald (inquisitr.com)

Saturday Slashdot reader MouseTheLuckyDog wrote:Some mysterious going ons on the web is causing people to ask if everything is alright with Edward Snowden. His last two tweets, since deleted, were a cryptic message...followed a few days later by a 64 character hex string. This combined with the recent move against torrents sites has the more conspiratorially oriented people speculating that perhaps he is dead and various agencies are slamming torrent sites to slow the spread of more Snowden leaks.
Saturday night The Inquisitr reported: The cryptic code tweets led many to believe that Snowden may have been captured or killed and the codes were the result of a "dead man's switch" designed to release if he did not check in to the computer at a certain time. However, a journalist with The Intercept that has worked with the whistleblower in the past says that Snowden is "fine," but would not elaborate further.
On Saturday Glenn Greenwald tweeted simply, "He's fine". While Snowden's first tweet was reported as "It's time," its complete text seems to suggest Snowden was gathering information for a book. "Did you work with me? Have we talked since 2013? Please recontact me securely, or talk to @bartongellman. It's time." That tweet ended with a URL that led to a tweet by Gellman. "If you have information on the work @Snowden did in the IC, help me tell it truthfully." And Saturday night Gellman also added a message on Twitter for "everyone requesting proof" that Snowden was alive. "Take a deep breath..."

93 comments

  1. Yes, Eric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, Eric Snowden, the unfortunately named character has been quite suicidal after being denied his trip to Barbados.

  2. A cover up! by telchine · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I was dead, the first thing I'd do is get someone to tweet to say I was alive in order to cover up the fact! This is blatently a conspiracy!!!!

    1. Re:A cover up! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And if I'd assassinated someone, I'd see if I could get a friend of theirs to claim they were still alive while I covered my tracks. There's certainly grounds for a conspiracy theory here - and the only way to avert would be for Snowden to provide some more solid evidence for his continued life. Say, a video of him reading the front page of a fresh-out newspaper. Of course some people will claim that the video really shows an impersonator, but it will quench the worst of the rumors.

    2. Re:A cover up! by MSG · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it will quench the worst of the rumors.

      Would it? Glenn Greenwald is highly trustworthy, and he was the one person that Snowden contacted first. If his word isn't good enough, I'm not sure anything is.

    3. Re:A cover up! by quantaman · · Score: 1

      If I was dead, the first thing I'd do is get someone to tweet to say I was alive in order to cover up the fact! This is blatently a conspiracy!!!!

      If you were dead then how and why are you asking people to tweet and cover it up?

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      I stole this Sig
    4. Re: A cover up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you know that Glenn Greenwald doesn't have a gun to his own head, how, exactly?

    5. Re:A cover up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And there's this!

      http://getoffthebs.com/snowden-dead-in-russia/

    6. Re:A cover up! by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      Who cares? As long as the Schroedinger cat is dead and alive, everything is just fine.

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      Achille Talon
      Hop!
    7. Re:A cover up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh!

    8. Re:A cover up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      most of us have no idea who greenwwald is
      he could bea NSA/CIA handler for all we know

    9. Re:A cover up! by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      Glenn Greenwald is highly trustworthy

      Is he really? He may be for some things, but let's not forget that the term Greenwalding exists for a reason.

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      Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
  3. Eric Snowden??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Huh? I guess it's better than (TM).

  4. DEFCON is on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe he's just participating in the games?

  5. Hex string... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hex string or it didn't happen!

    1. Re:Hex string... by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      It was just the key for your DVD player.

    2. Re:Hex string... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      ffdae96f8dd292374a966ec8b57d9cc680ce1d23cb7072c522efe32a1a7e34b0

      But since the original tweet got deleted quickly, we cannot be sure.

    3. Re:Hex string... by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

      ffdae96f8dd292374a966ec8b57d9cc680ce1d23cb7072c522efe32a1a7e34b0

      But since the original tweet got deleted quickly, we cannot be sure.

      And to think that I've been using my CAPS-lock key to type in hexadecimal software-activation keys and public keys for so many years...

      Thanks for the time-saver!

    4. Re: Hex string... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ffdae96f8dd292374a966ec8b57d9cc680ce1d23cb7072c522efe33a1a7e34b0

    5. Re: Hex string... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ffdae96f8dd292375a966ec8b57d9cc680ce1d23cb7072c522efe32a1a7e34b0

  6. Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by phayes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Russia which is harbouring Snowden has made it illegal to use encryption unless you give them a copy of the keys used.

    So, how exactly is Snowden supposed to be conversing with others without friendly old Vlad listening in?

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    Democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the issue
    1. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russian operatives have exceptions

    2. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

      Russia which is harbouring Snowden has made it illegal to use encryption unless you give them a copy of the keys used.

      So, how exactly is Snowden supposed to be conversing with others without friendly old Vlad listening in?

      Snowden probably has diplomatic immunity, or something equivalent. He is not a 'citizen' of Russia.

    3. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does everyone obey the law in the US?
      Don't people always first act morally by disobeying, and only worry after a prosecutor decides to make them an example?

    4. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      omg. the heights of ridiculousness that you people will go to in order to preserve the saintliness of snowden is... Olympian!

    5. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russia exempts its agents from those rules, and it will also make an exception for anyone using it to cause political problems for the USA. The only reason they're harboring Snowden in the first place is because it's a clusterfuck for the US.

    6. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      That hex string *WAS* the key. It's the cyphertext that's unknown.

    7. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by phayes · · Score: 1

      The point is that the use of such is illegal in Russia today so either:
      1) Snowden is breaking Russian laws by using outlawed methods to communicate and will shortly be thrown in a Russian Jail
      2) Snowden has given copies of all his keys to the Russian Government and nothing sent-to/received from him is safe
      3) Snowden is now a Russian agent (has been all along?)

      In any case, secure/confidential communication with him is no longer possible.

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      Democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the issue
    8. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since Snowden is not a Russian operative, he's not exempt.

    9. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Boronx · · Score: 1

      "nowden is breaking Russian laws by using outlawed methods to communicate and will shortly be thrown in a Russian Jail"

      The second part doesn't necessarily follow from the first part.

    10. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you are just a head flapping idiot and know absolutely zero about Russian politics.

    11. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by phayes · · Score: 1

      The only exception the Russian law gives is for agents of the state and foreign embassies. There are no other exceptions but you can go on believing that he can use outlawed methods to communicate "because you think so".

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      Democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the issue
    12. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      You are stealing the words from my mouth.

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      Achille Talon
      Hop!
    13. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because he does something illegal, doesn't mean they will jail him.

    14. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same reason why USA and UK is a safe harbor for criminals from Russia.

    15. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he continues to use secure communications while going unpunished he's either giving the FSB a copy without warning his correspondents or is exempt. In either case he's an operative.

    16. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by phayes · · Score: 1

      Everybody? No.

      Highly visible individuals that are wanted by foreign governments (like Fethullah Gülen). Yes.

      If Snowden is breaking Russian laws the US embassy is going to bring it up publicly so Snowden will not be able to pretend to do so invisibly.

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      Democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the issue
    17. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the US embassy would not publicly expose Snowden as breaking Russian laws to make sure that as many russians as possible learn that some people are more equal than others...

    18. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Criminals" like Alexander Litvinenko? Russian asylum seekers in the UK/US must respect US/UK laws so: No, Snowden breaking Russian laws is not like Russian asylum seekers not breaking US/UK laws.

    19. Re:Snowden + Russia + no encryption = ? by phayes · · Score: 1

      Says the Putinbot... Go back to school, your english needs more work.

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      Democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the issue
  7. He's not dead by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    He's just pining for the fjords.

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    #DeleteChrome
    1. Re: He's not dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Coldfjord usually has weekends off.

    2. Re:He's not dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I impart to you one sincere ethereal modpoint of +1 Funny.

    3. Re: He's not dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, is THAT it? I thought he had to recharge in the brimstone tanks for 36 hours or so...not like one body can continuously store all that evil at once, you know?

  8. If you were hanged by the NUTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you'd be cryptic too!

  9. snowed in by llzackll · · Score: 1

    hes just snowed in nothing to see here

  10. HAHA by fustakrakich · · Score: 1
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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  11. No one "tweeted" anything you ignorant fucksticks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ignorant shitstains

  12. Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since he has such a refined conscience, I figured he blabbed about injustice in his new motherland. Putin and his minions know how to deal with such problems. Usually it involves the discharge of a Makarov variety to the posterior of the cranium.

  13. Better check Netcraft just to be sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BRB.

  14. Re: Attempt to remain relevent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should probably get some military experience before you declare yourself an expert on warfare.

  15. Re:Attempt to remain relevent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He should probably work on a passing familiarity with the situation as it happened before aiming that high.
    "Greenwald who arranged to have Snowden in Chinese controlled territory when the news was first released"
    I think this would come as a shock to everyone involved to learn, for one thing...

  16. Re:Attempt to remain relevent by c0d3g33k · · Score: 1

    Have you considered a career as a fiction writer?

  17. Snowdens removed post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So snowden posted ffdae96f8dd292374a966ec8b57d9cc680ce1d23cb7072c522efe32a1a7e34b0 before it was removed.

  18. Insurance Files Key? by bigfoottoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember, back in the heat of the Snowden affair, it was rumored that he had established an insurance stash of files. And during that same time frame the existence of a hoard of Wikileaks insurance files was revealed. https://nakedsecurity.sophos.c... These files files were in three traunches - 3.6GB, 49GB, and 349GB. Supposedly these were encrypted with AES256. The string posted by Snowden is 256 bits long. Has anyone tried opening the Wikileaks files with this string?

    1. Re: Insurance Files Key? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's interesting.. would love to hear if it opened up those files

    2. Re:Insurance Files Key? by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

      It sounds like he is trying to get a hold of someone. He said "did you work with me" so maybe he has someone who helped him still on the inside. It's likely either a key to something like you said or it's to prove he is who he says he is. Does he have a public key? It could be simply a message like "I am the real edward snowden" encrypted with his private key. I agree though, if anyone downloaded his encrypted dump files that trying to use that to decrypt it would be something to try.

  19. Why doesn't he... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... just confirm it himself by holding up a paper from today and saying "I'm not dead"?

    1. Re:Why doesn't he... by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

      would not help, conspiracy theory nutters would just claim it was photo shopped, why bother trying to placate them at all!

  20. Checking sources for a book by quantaman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think Snowden/Greenward/Gellman are working on a book, and these tweets were targeted at a source who was willing to confirm some of the information Snowden told Gellman for the book.

    The first message was telling that person it was time for the person to start with the interview. The person was rightfully paranoid and wanted a way to arrange a secure communication channel with Snowden or Gellman.

    So the second message was a public key saying "you'll know messages are legit because they'll be signed with this key" (so some other encrypted info about setting up a secure channel).

    Both messages were public so that no one could tell who the intended recipient was.

    When the person got the info and the secure communications got set up Snowden deleted the tweets.

    --
    I stole this Sig
    1. Re:Checking sources for a book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great detective work! This is the most plausible theory.

    2. Re:Checking sources for a book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Interesting key exchange protocol when the third party has no previous trusted keys. My guess to how this actually worked:

      - They transmit a GPG key (with certify and sign ability, possibly along with encryption subkeys) out of band to the third party.
      - Snowden posts some text on Twitter and then posts the signature of that text signed by the GPG key. Ideally the text would be pre-arranged, but that might be dangerous because someone could search for it.
      - Snowden and Grellman obviously already have a pre-existing relationship and presumably have exchanged keys previously. Snowden signs the new key with a key that Grellman trusts. He sends that to Grellman
      - Grellman posts the fingerprint of the key that Snowden signed (and Grellman now trusts) on Twitter.

      Now they can send (or probably have already sent) signing subkeys and encryption subkeys certified with the original GPG key and the third party can mostly trust it. They know it came from someone who controls Snowden's Twitter account and that it is trusted by someone who controls Grellman's Twitter account. The third party can then send encrypted text back to Snowden indicating receipt of the key.

      It's stuff like this that makes me wish that OpenPGP didn't suck so much. I understand how it works, but even my description above is arguably wrong. OpenPGP conflates so many issues. Keys, private key parts, public key parts and certificates are all called "keys". When you "sign a key" virtually nobody understands what you are signing (the text of the "id" on the certificate). When you give someone your key, virtually nobody knows what you are actually doing (giving them a certificate containing public key parts). Virtually nobody knows the difference between a "master key" and "subkeys" (master key is a public/private key pair with certify and usually sign ability, subkeys are public/private key pairs with sign, encrypt/decrypt ability whose public parts can be put in a certificate certified by the master key). It's an absolute mess (mostly because nobody understood this stuff when PGP was being developed).

      The problem is that OpenPGP is the *only* protocol that gets it right for this kind of application. If you need pseudonymous authentication, you absolutely, desperately need to use OpenPGP (and almost certainly want to use Web Of Trust). I keep threatening to implement something that works this way without all the baggage of OpenPGP... but I'm lazy :-) Maybe someday...

    3. Re:Checking sources for a book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just realized that as a freedom-loving couch-potato and too lazy^Wenlightened to join anonymous, it is my humane duty to follow Snowden on Twitter, even if I don't read tweets actively.
      Just as a source of randomness.

  21. Re:Nothing of value would be lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How well do they pay you to post stuff like that? No, really, I could use the money and no one with a brain would take that shit seriously, so no harm done on my part either.

  22. Good indicator. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I didn't want some guy killed or some place attacked and I could not do anything to stop my country from doing it... that is a good indicator it's time to ponder whether it is really *my* country.

  23. bazinga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " It's time " was the last words spoken by Jack Bauer on "24" before he died. It was used as the start-up sound on the ibook.

  24. THEY would say that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wouldn't THEY!

  25. Re:Sounds like a publicity stunt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    > our precious traitor isn't getting enough of the news cycle to keep his 800 pound ego fed.

    no, this is about Snowden, not assange.

    captcha: slanders

  26. Re:Give Hillary Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as opposed to the loving embrace of vlad putin...

    you crack me up

  27. Re:Attempt to remain relevent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ++insightful, and it has obviously touched a raw nerve with the snowden fanbois

  28. Founding Fathers of America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Snowden is like the Founding Fathers of America.
    For the people.
    The Founding Fathers were a revolutionary group, diverse in their professions and yet unified in their goal: American liberty.
    Reference:
    http://www.ourtp.org/blogs/blog/our-turning-point/personal-responsibility/2012/03/17/what-did-the-founding-fathers-want-for-america

    1. Re:Founding Fathers of America by quenda · · Score: 1

      Snowden is like the Founding Fathers of America.

      That's a bit harsh. Snowden has not started a war that killed a hundred thousand people.

  29. Re:Attempt to remain relevent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just an attempt by Snowden and his pet journalists

    Is that you Donald?

  30. In any case he is in grave danger by Max_W · · Score: 1

    An average policeman's or security officer's salary in Russia is not that impressive. So an offer of a large sum of money plus a citizenship of a rich country could theoretically buy an information leading to his capture or worse.

    Obviously Edward is not in safety at all. I would not be surprised if it ends up similar to Osama's case. It is just a matter of money and consequently resources to be invested. Money talks...

    1. Re:In any case he is in grave danger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      average policeman or security officers salary in the US is not that impressive either, actually it is borderline poverty in many areas. Does that mean we should assume they are also easily corrupted and willing to commit treason?

    2. Re:In any case he is in grave danger by quenda · · Score: 1

      I would not be surprised if it ends up similar to Osama's case.

      What? Send a special forces team into Moscow and risk world war III?
      Despite what you may have seen on some shitty FX TV show, the KGB and CIA have never gone around killing people on the other's home soil. It would be a bad precedent. Then again it might be wise for Snowden to run a Geiger counter over his tea.

    3. Re:In any case he is in grave danger by gtall · · Score: 1

      Personally, I think Snowden is safe until Vlad the Impaler decides he's no longer useful. He won't murdered but he will be exiled to an information vacuum.

    4. Re:In any case he is in grave danger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vlad's was very happy with Eddie's work with the DNC emails. Now I'm sure he's working on getting Hillary's emails.

    5. Re:In any case he is in grave danger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Snowden should have killed himself in Hong Kong or at least in the airport in Moscow. Now it will take an invasion to 'liberate' Russia.

    6. Re:In any case he is in grave danger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

    7. Re:In any case he is in grave danger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would not be surprised if it ends up similar to Osama's case.

      You expect Ed to die nonviolently of kidney failure?

    8. Re:In any case he is in grave danger by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

      which is exactly why the average American or Russian security agent or policeman knows Jack squat as they aren't paid enough to be trusted.,

  31. mad crook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think he realized russia is mad crook lol.. don't wanna get that polonium poisoning

    1. Re:mad crook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      everyone says russia aint that bad... but compare MK ultra to this shit

      http://www.baranovfamily.org/

      SPECIAL SERVICES AGAINST THE ORDINARY PEOPLE

  32. Dead Man's Switch by shortscruffydave · · Score: 1

    I can understand the principle behind this, but don't see why the message(s) put out by it should be cryptic. If something bad happened to me, I'd want a clear "Help! I've been kidnapped!!" message, not some cryptic "My first is in Kiitten but not in cat..." type of thing

    1. Re:Dead Man's Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It wasn't all that cryptic to anyone who can use it:

      • Snowden disappears.
      • Deadman switch posts tweets to grab attention and containing a 256-bit key
      • Torrent sides under perpetual DDoS since the tweets.
      • Torrent sites known to contain insurance files encrypted with a 256-bit key in case he disappears.

      Here's hoping it has dirt on Roswell.

  33. Accidental post of private key / passphrase? by BitterKraut · · Score: 1

    Just speculating, but: With Linux desktops, copy&paste can be confusing, as there are usually several buffers. What if he tweeted some important secret key by accident and is now in big trouble trying to save what can be saved?

  34. Snowden Death Confirmed?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mistress Of Edward Snowden Pronounces Snowden Dead In Russia
    http://getoffthebs.com/snowden-dead-in-russia/

  35. could be simple too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what if he was merely telling a loved one to Be sure to drink your Ovaltine? may mean nothen at all to rest of us.