Jesus man, learn to read. I said I don't think birtherism is right-wing, not that it's not extremism.
Again, you keep saying "y'all" like I'm a conservative. There's plenty of far-lefties in leftist publications - that you can't see that reflects more on you than on American politics.
What's fascist about wanting someone deported after he killed someone? He entered the country illegally, was illegally carrying a gun, and killed a woman with it. Our immigration laws should be looser, but not that loose. I'm generally pretty anti-authoritarian, but if you happen to commit several crimes that end with the death of someone, I don't see why we should let you stick around. My objection isn't just that the Left misuses the term, but I do also object to that. I can say what Trump is doing is bad without saying he's a Nazi, just like I can say that some things the Left is doing are bad without calling them communist scum.
Supporting Israel is not the same thing as supporting Jews, I agree. But a Nazi - someone who has anti-Semitism as a core belief - could not even support Israel.
Of course I can't, they generally don't release the names of children who are being sheltered or are placed in the foster care system. I said it was unacceptable that it's the default policy, and most of those children should not have been separated. Asylum-seekers should be allowed to actually seek asylum. It's not a knee-jerk response; I'm simply pointing out that in some cases, children should not be reunited with the adults who took them across the border. Any source on "one woman's fingers"? Because I'd bet it's more than that.
I was objecting to your use of "the right" in close connection to "their extremism", as it implies that most of the right are extremists.
Birtherism is fucking dumb, but I can't say it's right-wing extremism. There's nothing right-wing about it except that it's aimed at someone on the left of American politics. Dinesh is a jackass, sure, but are you really going to tell me that's exclusive to the right? Or that having a (brown, immigrant) provocateur on the staff of a journal means all of the right is extremist? That's a pretty weak argument.
No, the Left absolutely overuses the term. I've been called a Nazi for saying Jose Zarate, the person who killed Kate Steinle, should be deported after he's released from jail. Nazi and fascist are not the same thing - Nazism is a specific ideology, and while Trump and co are certainly authoritarians, I really can't see anyone who supports the state of Israel being a Nazi.
FYI, some of the children haven't been reunited with the adults they came with because the adults were either not their parents or were convicted of things like child abuse. Now, don't get me wrong - Trump shouldn't have made this the default policy, and taking children away and then losing them is absolutely unacceptable. But we can condemn the practice without labeling people Nazis.
The mere fact of posting a Pepe meme does not mean that someone is racist or white supremacist. However, if the meme itself is racist or anti-Semitic in nature, or if it appears in a context containing bigoted or offensive language or symbols, then it may have been used for hateful purposes.
You said "Its long been a tactic of the right to equate anyone who expresses disagreement with their extremism as extremists themselves", which was clearly the portion of the comment I was replying to, especially since I said I don't think Maxine Waters is an extremist. I'm not right-wing, nor am I a snowflake.
I don't think we should be tolerant of Nazis. But there's undeniably a tendency of the modern Left to misuse the label for dramatic effect.
The AC I replied to said "the right". Not "right-wing extremists". I don't like what Maxine Waters said about "push back on them"; I think it sets a bad precedent and lowers the national discourse even more. I don't think that makes her an extremist.
Oh, I see - you're one of those "everyone to the right of center is a Nazi" people. Carry on then.
It seems to me that most "dog whistles" the modern Left complains about are just phrases commonly used by people they don't like. Most explanations I've seen for them were nothing more than conspiracy-esque rants.
I'd argue it's unethical for Twitter to allow people (and politicians) to sign up and then make their opinions much less visible without telling them so. If you're going to make certain specific people less visible, you shouldn't do it in secret.
The Right are generally being hypocrites about this, certainly - at least in terms of calling him out. But then, the Left seemed to not care so much about Clinton and they're losing their shit at Trump, so it seems to me both sides are pretty much just using it to their own advantage.
By the way, that's quite the spelling of "Barack" you have there.
I'm a centrist who's got moderate libertarian/anti-authoritarian tendencies, and I don't particularly like Warren. I don't despise her, and she'd be better than a good number of other Democrats, but I'd have a hard time voting for her.
I'm sure they already know this, but the algorithm isn't designed to trip up GOP politicians.
I mean... We don't know that. It may well be true, but if the algorithm is exclusively affecting members of one political party, then it's certainly possible there's bias built into it. GOPers can certainly be inflammatory, but so can many progressives.
So you made up your own definition of assault rifle then, cool cool. Always great to redefine terms so you and your opponents are arguing about different things.
They may not have built the whole thing - the Empire had a lot of superweapons in development that weren't as big or flashy (or as far along) as the Death Star. It's possible the Empire started Starkiller base a while back, the records were destroyed/lost when the New Republic rose to power, and the First Order just kept it in their space while it was being finished.
I imagine they thought an actual planet would be harder to destroy, but yeah, the First Order seems to have learned nothing from the fall of the Empire.
They did mention the "New Republic" in Ep7, which I assumed was what the Rebellion made when the Empire fell. Presumably, some of the Imperial Navy splintered off and refused to join the New Republic, and at least one of those splinters became the First Order and held some amount of formerly Imperial space. Starkiller base's first target was the New Republic's capital, I thought.
Two things: 1) He won according to the rules all the candidates were bound by, and 2) When talking about individual counties, it is correct to say that he won some by a larger margin than others, regardless of the ultimate outcome.
And I didn't say you wrote @POTUS. Christ, it's like you have to read into things.
No, I could have been clearer that I was only objecting to one specific part of the post. But man, y'all read way too much into it (like how you're implying I thought my communication was flawless - I don't and I never said that either) and were also kind of huge dicks. I should have been clearer and you should have maybe stopped to clarify what I meant before trying to jump down my throat.
Goal-post shifting because you realized you're mad about something I didn't write, but are too chickenshit to admit it
I didn't try to justify requiring jumping through the very lowest and widest of hoops to view tweets from @realDonaldTrump (not @POTUS). So whatever "gotcha" you think you did here was just strawmanning me.
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Jesus man, learn to read. I said I don't think birtherism is right-wing, not that it's not extremism.
Again, you keep saying "y'all" like I'm a conservative. There's plenty of far-lefties in leftist publications - that you can't see that reflects more on you than on American politics.
What's fascist about wanting someone deported after he killed someone? He entered the country illegally, was illegally carrying a gun, and killed a woman with it. Our immigration laws should be looser, but not that loose. I'm generally pretty anti-authoritarian, but if you happen to commit several crimes that end with the death of someone, I don't see why we should let you stick around. My objection isn't just that the Left misuses the term, but I do also object to that. I can say what Trump is doing is bad without saying he's a Nazi, just like I can say that some things the Left is doing are bad without calling them communist scum.
Supporting Israel is not the same thing as supporting Jews, I agree. But a Nazi - someone who has anti-Semitism as a core belief - could not even support Israel.
Of course I can't, they generally don't release the names of children who are being sheltered or are placed in the foster care system. I said it was unacceptable that it's the default policy, and most of those children should not have been separated. Asylum-seekers should be allowed to actually seek asylum. It's not a knee-jerk response; I'm simply pointing out that in some cases, children should not be reunited with the adults who took them across the border. Any source on "one woman's fingers"? Because I'd bet it's more than that.
I was objecting to your use of "the right" in close connection to "their extremism", as it implies that most of the right are extremists.
Birtherism is fucking dumb, but I can't say it's right-wing extremism. There's nothing right-wing about it except that it's aimed at someone on the left of American politics. Dinesh is a jackass, sure, but are you really going to tell me that's exclusive to the right? Or that having a (brown, immigrant) provocateur on the staff of a journal means all of the right is extremist? That's a pretty weak argument.
No, the Left absolutely overuses the term. I've been called a Nazi for saying Jose Zarate, the person who killed Kate Steinle, should be deported after he's released from jail. Nazi and fascist are not the same thing - Nazism is a specific ideology, and while Trump and co are certainly authoritarians, I really can't see anyone who supports the state of Israel being a Nazi.
FYI, some of the children haven't been reunited with the adults they came with because the adults were either not their parents or were convicted of things like child abuse. Now, don't get me wrong - Trump shouldn't have made this the default policy, and taking children away and then losing them is absolutely unacceptable. But we can condemn the practice without labeling people Nazis.
Yep, sure did. Where they say it's often not a hate symbol, but can be in certain contexts. Just like everything else.
For sure, "aughfully" is atrocious.
The mere fact of posting a Pepe meme does not mean that someone is racist or white supremacist. However, if the meme itself is racist or anti-Semitic in nature, or if it appears in a context containing bigoted or offensive language or symbols, then it may have been used for hateful purposes.
which means it's like everything else.
You said "Its long been a tactic of the right to equate anyone who expresses disagreement with their extremism as extremists themselves", which was clearly the portion of the comment I was replying to, especially since I said I don't think Maxine Waters is an extremist. I'm not right-wing, nor am I a snowflake.
I don't think we should be tolerant of Nazis. But there's undeniably a tendency of the modern Left to misuse the label for dramatic effect.
The AC I replied to said "the right". Not "right-wing extremists". I don't like what Maxine Waters said about "push back on them"; I think it sets a bad precedent and lowers the national discourse even more. I don't think that makes her an extremist.
Oh, I see - you're one of those "everyone to the right of center is a Nazi" people. Carry on then.
It seems to me that most "dog whistles" the modern Left complains about are just phrases commonly used by people they don't like. Most explanations I've seen for them were nothing more than conspiracy-esque rants.
As usual, there's a ClickHole article for this situation.
I'd argue it's unethical for Twitter to allow people (and politicians) to sign up and then make their opinions much less visible without telling them so. If you're going to make certain specific people less visible, you shouldn't do it in secret.
The Right are generally being hypocrites about this, certainly - at least in terms of calling him out. But then, the Left seemed to not care so much about Clinton and they're losing their shit at Trump, so it seems to me both sides are pretty much just using it to their own advantage.
By the way, that's quite the spelling of "Barack" you have there.
I'm a centrist who's got moderate libertarian/anti-authoritarian tendencies, and I don't particularly like Warren. I don't despise her, and she'd be better than a good number of other Democrats, but I'd have a hard time voting for her.
Maybe there are fewer jobs available for conservatives in journalism.
Well done, painting most of the right as extremists and insisting that they're mislabeling you.
Fact is, both the left and the right do this - "all Trump supporters are basically Nazis", etc.
I'm sure they already know this, but the algorithm isn't designed to trip up GOP politicians.
I mean... We don't know that. It may well be true, but if the algorithm is exclusively affecting members of one political party, then it's certainly possible there's bias built into it. GOPers can certainly be inflammatory, but so can many progressives.
I'm thinking this was modded incorrectly. Several times.
Any thoughts on what you'll do with all that straw you just knocked over?
So you made up your own definition of assault rifle then, cool cool. Always great to redefine terms so you and your opponents are arguing about different things.
They may not have built the whole thing - the Empire had a lot of superweapons in development that weren't as big or flashy (or as far along) as the Death Star. It's possible the Empire started Starkiller base a while back, the records were destroyed/lost when the New Republic rose to power, and the First Order just kept it in their space while it was being finished.
I imagine they thought an actual planet would be harder to destroy, but yeah, the First Order seems to have learned nothing from the fall of the Empire.
They did mention the "New Republic" in Ep7, which I assumed was what the Rebellion made when the Empire fell. Presumably, some of the Imperial Navy splintered off and refused to join the New Republic, and at least one of those splinters became the First Order and held some amount of formerly Imperial space. Starkiller base's first target was the New Republic's capital, I thought.
Two things:
1) He won according to the rules all the candidates were bound by, and
2) When talking about individual counties, it is correct to say that he won some by a larger margin than others, regardless of the ultimate outcome.
And I didn't say you wrote @POTUS. Christ, it's like you have to read into things.
No, I could have been clearer that I was only objecting to one specific part of the post. But man, y'all read way too much into it (like how you're implying I thought my communication was flawless - I don't and I never said that either) and were also kind of huge dicks. I should have been clearer and you should have maybe stopped to clarify what I meant before trying to jump down my throat.
Nah. ZK consistently misconstrued what I said and invented a whole lot of stuff that wasn't there, while throwing a shitfit.
Your trolling, much like your arguments, is just getting worse over time. Take the L and move on, man.
Goal-post shifting because you realized you're mad about something I didn't write, but are too chickenshit to admit it
I didn't try to justify requiring jumping through the very lowest and widest of hoops to view tweets from @realDonaldTrump (not @POTUS). So whatever "gotcha" you think you did here was just strawmanning me.