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Walmart Buys Jet For $3 Billion, Hopes To Turbo Charge Ecommerce (venturebeat.com)

Walmart says it has agreed to acquire online retailer Jet.com for $3 billion in cash. As a promise, Jet.com says it will deliver cheaper prices on a range of goods by encouraging users to buy more items at the same time or to purchase products located in the same distribution center -- thereby cutting collection and shipping costs. ZDNet reports:Overall, it's clear that Wal-Mart has Amazon envy and needs to scale its e-commerce operations. The Jet management team has had experience battling Amazon through Quidsi and its brands such as Diapers.com. As for the deal, Wal-Mart said some of the $3 billion for Jet will be paid over time and $300 million of Wal-Mart shares will also be part of the transaction over time.

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  1. Turbo Charge? by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Walmart doesn't need to turbo charge its commerce site. It needs to rewrite it? Have you tried searching for something in its online catalog? It's like a trip to Altavista circa 1995.

  2. Jet is like a middleman to the cheapest price. by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 3, Informative

    They have no warehouses, they are just a paper storefront to the cheapest seller for that particular item. You never know who is actually sending you the products. Seems way overvalued.

    1. Re:Jet is like a middleman to the cheapest price. by b0bby · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It seems to me that it's even better - they set the lowest price, to beat Amazon et al and build market share, but as far as I can tell they actually are paying their partners their regular price. I imagine that the difference is being made up by venture capital. Back to 2000 - we'll make it up in volume!

      I base this on the fact that when I have bought stuff through them (because the price is the lowest) I have got an enclosed receipt from whoever actually shipped it with their normal price on it. Now, it may be that Jet gets a discount from that on the backend, but I doubt it's enough to cover all of it.

    2. Re:Jet is like a middleman to the cheapest price. by naughtynaughty · · Score: 2

      Jet.com does have warehouses.

      Most products on Amazon are actually coming from Amazon partners and often shipped by the Amazon partner direct to the consumer. Many commonly ordered items are delivered by the partners to Amazon to stock in an Amazon warehouse for faster delivery. Rarely is Amazon the actual entity that is the seller, Amazon has little interest in spending its own capital on stocking inventory.

      Jet.com did originally attempt to build market share by advertising products that weren't even from Jet.com partners. When someone ordered the product Jet.com placed an order with the actual seller for delivery to Jet.com's customer, sometimes at a price lower than the price Jet.com paid for the product.

    3. Re:Jet is like a middleman to the cheapest price. by misexistentialist · · Score: 2

      It does have some warehouses, but it's true they just laid on a gimmick to the Amazon marketplace concept to wow rubes like Walmart

    4. Re:Jet is like a middleman to the cheapest price. by swb · · Score: 2

      How does "Sold by and shipped by Amazon.com" work then?

      To avoid junk or misrepresentation, I usually choose the Amazon-as-seller option. vs. the negligible savings of a third party seller.

      I can believe that products Amazon sells and stocks are merely "owned" by Amazon in the sense that they essentially just act as a logistics warehouse, perhaps paying some small premium to possess the item in their warehouses to meet Prime delivery obligations.

  3. I've tried Walmart's ecommerce... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The prices were usually quite good. What I liked was the ability to ship to to a local store (5 miles away) and pick it up there for zero shipping charge. Usually the pickup was next day, occasionally it was two day. My first order was same day, about 5 hours after I placed the order, it was ready for pickup. All for no shipping cost.

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    That's so much better than Amazon's having to wait three days to a week before it is even shipped if you opt for free delivery. (I'm not talking about amazon prime's free shipping, I don't pay $100 per year for free shipping when the product price already has shipping charges baked in. So you amazon prime fanbois don't have to post how great prime is.)

  4. Re:Walmart buys Jet for $3B? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    They could have saved themselves some money and bought a whole airline - Air France-KLM has a market cap of less than $3 billion, and it's not an overvalued dot-com. They could get same-day service for packages anywhere they fly - their own captive cargo carrier, with passengers and other cargo paying the freight.

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  5. Think that's bad? Try Sears by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sears.com is, bar none, the most crufty and crappy e-commerce site I have ever seen. When you combine that with their high prices and poor customer service, it's a wonder they haven't folded already.

    It's especially pathetic when you consider that Sears used to be synonymous with shopping from home in America. They let Montgomery Ward's consume their mail-order business, and then Ward's was consumed by the proliferation of cheaper shop-at-home options; they died off before the web even became a serious force there. They have the shipping lines and the will call facilities to be the name in home shopping, but they don't seem to have the supplier networks any more. Literally everyone else has better prices.

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    1. Re:Think that's bad? Try Sears by jbengt · · Score: 2

      They [Sears] let Montgomery Ward's consume their mail-order business . . .

      Montgomery Ward was the leader in the mail-order business before Sears existed.

    2. Re:Think that's bad? Try Sears by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sears.com is what you get when a store decides to sell its brand name as a storefront. The vast majority of items on the sears.com site are sold by third party sellers who are paying Sears a commission to appear on their website. eBay has pretty much become the same thing. Newegg does it as well, though they do provide an easy way for you to restrict your search to only Newegg items.

      Most troubling, Amazon is doing this now. You'll notice that sometimes an item on Amazon is listed as "sold by FooBar, fulfilled by Amazon." This is a huge, huge problem. It means FooBar sends their inventory to Amazon who stores it in their warehouse, then Amazon ships it to you when you order it. The problem is, Amazon doesn't keep track of FooBar's inventory - they intermingle it with their regular inventory. If FooBar sends Amazon fake memory cards, that means you can order memory cards from Amazon (not sold by FooBar), and still end up receiving some of FooBar's fake memory cards. It's gotten so bad I've completely stopped buying easily counterfeited items like memory cards from Amazon, and pay a little more to buy them from a local big box store who buys in bulk directly from the manufacturer or a big distributor.

    3. Re:Think that's bad? Try Sears by sexconker · · Score: 2

      If a product has a "frustration free" packaging option, you can generally avoid this issue.
      Those items are inventoried separately. Some brands even create Amazon-specific packaging for this program. I recently bought an SD card from a major brand that came in packaging made exclusively for Amazon (complete with Amazon's name on it). Some rando shitstain seller dumping clones and fakes from China isn't going to get his shit in that same inventory pile.

  6. Re:They should clarify the article a bit... by Nehmo · · Score: 2

    They failed to mention that Amazon now owns Quidsi and the sub brands since 2010

    Good catch.

    https://www.quidsi.com/brands Businesses of an industry tend to agglomerate over time - like planets forming from dust and asteroids. There's even a math formula to predict the distribution member sizes tend to. Someone else probably can explain this. I can't. Except for monopolistic implications, in most industries, this is not such a bad thing. Size often makes for efficiency.

    (I should note, however, in the news media industry, it's definitely a bad thing. We get deprived of alternative points of view.)

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  7. Terrible Headline by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 2

    I saw this in my RSS feed and thought, "$3 billion is a lot of money to pay for one jet"

  8. Death spiral by sjbe · · Score: 2

    Sears.com is, bar none, the most crufty and crappy e-commerce site I have ever seen. When you combine that with their high prices and poor customer service, it's a wonder they haven't folded already.

    It's only a matter of time I think. Sears (and Kmart - same company now) have been in a seeming death spiral for quite a while now. Stunningly badly managed. I actually worked for Kmart for a brief time and my experience working there was so bad I've been rooting for them to die in a fire ever since.

  9. "Free" in store pickup isn't really free by sjbe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What I liked was the ability to ship to to a local store (5 miles away) and pick it up there for zero shipping charge.

    Zero shipping charge but you spend 30+ minutes (minimum) of your time plus gas going to pick it up. It might be cheaper depending on what you are having sent to you but the price isn't zero. Plus you have to actually go to a Walmart which is something I'd actually pay to avoid. My nearest Walmart is about 8 miles away so with my truck I'll spend roughly 3/4 of a gallon of fuel to get there and back. At local fuel prices as I type this (around $2.25) that is about $1.68 per trip in fuel alone for "free" in store pickup. Not even counting the value of my time either. Not bad but not great either. See below.

    That's so much better than Amazon's having to wait three days to a week before it is even shipped if you opt for free delivery. (I'm not talking about amazon prime's free shipping, I don't pay $100 per year for free shipping when the product price already has shipping charges baked in.

    You are aware that Walmart has their own version of Prime, right? Whether Prime is a good deal depends on how you shop. For me I buy a LOT through Amazon so on a per transaction basis it would be substantially more expensive (not to mention time consuming) for me to go pick something up at Walmart every time I placed an order. I placed 154 orders through Amazon in 2015, so the freight cost per order was $0.65 per order. That's less than the cost of gas to my nearest Walmart and back AND I didn't have to waste my time traveling to Walmart.

  10. I've tried Walmart's ship to a local store by Solandri · · Score: 5, Informative

    Drove to the local Walmart 5 miles away. I needed to pick up some stuff from Home Depot, so I was going to be in the area anyway.

    Walk in. There are no obvious signs saying where to pick up Internet orders. I ask an employee (there are a lot of them near the front). He says I need to go to a counter near the back of the store.

    Walk to back of the store and find what looks like the right counter. Nobody is there.

    Wait 3 minutes in case the person had just stepped away for a bit. Finally decide there's really nobody there.

    Spend 5 min wandering around trying to find a Walmart employee (not so many of them near the back). Finally find one. She says that's not her department, but she'll page the guy who's supposed to be there.

    Wait at counter for 5 more minutes. Just as I decide the lady lied to get rid of me, two other Walmart employees walk out a door next to the counter. I ask them for help. They say the guy who works the counter is eating lunch. One of them helpfully says she'll tell him someone is waiting, and goes back in. She walks back out a minute later and says he'll be right out.

    Wait 5 more minutes. Just as I'm about to go in search of another employee, the guy comes out still chewing (apparently finishing what he was eating was more important than a waiting customer). I show him my Internet purchase receipt. He walks to the back of the room and starts digging through mounds of haphazardly piled items.

    After 5 minutes of searching, he finds my item, brings it to me, has me sign saying I've received it.

    I walk out wishing I'd ordered on Amazon so I could have the last half hour of my life back.

    I've done ship to local store at a lot of places. Staples, Office Depot, Home Depot, Lowes, Fry's (their prices for small items tend to be better than Amazon's). All of them get it right - in and out in less than 5 minutes. Not so for Walmart. If it's not on their store shelves, or they won't ship it for free or a reasonable cost, I get it elsewhere. I'm never doing a local Walmart pickup again.

    1. Re:I've tried Walmart's ship to a local store by phorm · · Score: 2

      apparently finishing what he was eating was more important than a waiting customer

      Uh, yeah. Being able to take your scheduled lunch (which is generally on your time, your dime) IS important, actually. If there's a problem with the location not being open when it should be (due to holidays, illness, or just somebody wanting to eat their f***ing lunch), then it's because somebody in management - who gets paid a lot more than this guy I'm sure - didn't make it a priority to ensure that the position was properly staffed.