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Apple Said To Plan First Pro Laptop Overhaul in Four Years (bloomberg.com)

It's been a while since Apple upgraded most of its computer lineups. It has come to a point, where it's being advised that the Cupertino-based company should stop selling the dated inventories. But the wait will be over later this year, says Mark Gurman, the reporter with the best track record in Apple's ecosystem. Reporting for Bloomberg, Gurman says that the company will be overhauling its MacBook Pro laptop line for the first time in over four years, packing it with a range of interesting features. From the report: The updated notebooks will be thinner, include a touch screen strip for function keys, and will be offered with more powerful and efficient graphics processors for expert users such as video gamers, said the people, who asked not to be named. The most significant addition to the new MacBook Pro is a secondary display above the keyboard that replaces the standard function key row. Instead of physical keys, a strip-like screen will present functions on an as-needed basis that fit the current task or application. The smaller display will use Organic Light-Emitting Diodes, a thinner, lighter and sharper screen technology, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said earlier this year. Apple's goal with the dedicated function display is to simplify keyboard shortcuts traditionally used by experienced users. The panel will theoretically display media playback controls when iTunes is open, while it could display editing commands like cut and paste during word processing tasks, the people said. The display also allows Apple to add new buttons via software updates rather than through more expensive, slower hardware refreshes. [...] Apple is using one of AMD's "Polaris" graphics chips because the design offers the power efficiency and thinness necessary to fit inside the slimmer Apple notebook, the person said.

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  1. sharp edge by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i vote for getting rid of the sharp edge that's grating the skin off my wrists. i'd similarly welcome a computer that can keep itself cool without sounding like an asthmatic jet engine. it would also be nice to be able to fall asleep with a running computer on my chest/abdomen without being woken up by a burning skin sensation.

  2. Touch screen function keys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fantastic. Nothing suits a keyboard better than having to look down at it to use it.

    1. Re:Touch screen function keys by Solandri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The only reason 90% of users have to look at the function keys to use them is because on 90% of laptops, some idiot accountant or designer decided that spacing the function keys equally was cheaper or looked cleaner than breaking them into groups of 4 like on a real keyboard. The few laptops which split the function keys into groups of 4 (the Thinkpads for one), I can use all day without looking at the keyboard.

  3. Great by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now how about a Mac mini overhaul? The last change was two years ago and it was actually a downgrade from the 2012 models.

    There's something really wrong at Apple for still selling computers in 2016 with 5400RPM hard drives and only 4GB of RAM.

  4. Piss on Apple by geek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The updated notebooks will be thinner

    Fuck off

  5. Thinner / Lighter ... who cares by rvnash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who cares about thinner lighter for a _PRO_ notebook PRO means expandable. They should make it thicker and heavier, if it means I can install updated drives and memory a few years from now.

    1. Re:Thinner / Lighter ... who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I had no problem upgrading the drive in my Mid2012 MBP. Memory is a different issue but I've never had a need to do so but the whole "you can't replace your drive!!!!1111!!!!" is on-its-face false.

      Speaking of false, let me know how the hell you feel your Mid2012 MBP has any relevance in a discussion about how hard it is to upgrade their current line of hardware.

      There are two things you can now upgrade after purchase in Apple laptops; Jack and Shit.

    2. Re:Thinner / Lighter ... who cares by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're doing it wrong. You are supposed to have a stack of Thunderbold HDDs and GPUs on your desk. And a USB hub or two, plus USB to HDMI and USB to ethernet dongles. Come on, why wouldn't you want all those cool accessories?!

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  6. How about proper delete AND backspace keys? by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    then just keep the function keys where they are

    Personally I couldn't give a rip about the function keys. They generally aren't very useful to me anyway. What I'd like Apple to do is put a proper goddam backspace AND delete keys on their laptops. It's annoying as hell to have to hit Fn+delete on a Macbook.

  7. Re: cupertino a go go. by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Their only useful purpose in OS X, realistically, has been for controlling volume and screen brightness anyway. Maybe this will cause companies to come up with more interesting uses for them. I'm not holding my breath.

    The bigger concern is that they're making it thinner yet again. That probably means:

    • No Magsafe 2
    • Less battery life under heavy CPU load
    • Still the same paltry 1 TB capacity as previous generations

    Both of those are deal-breakers for me. We've already gotten to the point where my battery lasts for an average of only 2.5 hours on essentially brand new hardware because the battery capacity hasn't kept up with the CPU's non-idle power consumption, and several mission-critical apps that I run almost every day are horrible battery hogs (in no particular order, Chrome, Finale 2012, Lightroom 6, Photoshop CS6).

    Want to know what would make me happy?

    • Longer battery life when doing more than just playing around with a web browser.
    • Reliable GPUs that don't overheat and unsolder themselves.
    • The original MagSafe connector. The new MagSafe 2 falls off a little too easily when you bump it vertically.
    • Storage capacities up to 8 TB at a reasonable price (translation: THICKER, with room for two HD bays).
    • Third-party MagSafe/MagSafe 2 licensing for clip-on battery sleeves with MagSafe pass-through or
    • A removable cover on the bottom with contact plates to allow an external battery to be charged by the laptop's charge circuitry in alternation with the main battery.

    I couldn't care less about function keys. I couldn't care less about making the laptop thinner. I want the laptop to be more capable. And I think I speak for basically 100% of Mac laptop users when I say that. Absolutely nobody outside of Apple cares about making laptops thinner at this point. We passed the point where that matters at the point where it dropped below the thickness of a small paperback book—basically with the most recent pre-Retina MacBook Pro. Every bit of thinness after that is widely seen as engineers doing something solely because they can, rather than because it improves the product. And for the most part, the excessive thinness has made the product functionally WORSE with each generation.

    If Apple is really serious about retaining actual pro users, they need to stop actively making the pro machines less functional and start moving in the exact opposite direction. What I'm seeing described here sounds like a MacBook, not a MacBook Pro. As far as I'm concerned, the last truly pro Macbook was discontinued about two years ago. Just saying.

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  8. "Pay today for what you'll use next year"? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Paying up front for capacity you'll need only later may make sense for a house, but not for a laptop.

    When I bought each of my Mac laptops, I knew I'd want to upgrade their memory eventually. In general, "maxing them out" would have entailed spending thousands of dollars for memory that I wouldn't need for another year or two -- at which point I'd be able to buy it from a third-party seller at a tenth of the cost. Same thing with storage.

    It's actually even worse than that -- for my first pro-level laptop (a G3 in 1999), the largest Apple-supplied memory configuration was 384MB, but third-party upgrades took it to 768. For my current daily driver (a last-of-the-line 17" MBP), Apple specs said its maximum RAM was 8GB, and that was all they'd sell you. I bought it from Apple's refurb store in 2012 or 2013, I think, when I saw that there would be no new 17-inch models. I immediately upgraded it from the stock 4GB to 16GB, at a total cost of something like $95 (I forgot to send in the $10 MIR). Buying an 8GB instead of a 4GB model would have increased the price by hundreds of dollars. And then there's storage -- I put up with the stock 500GB spinner for a couple of years, then popped in a 1TB SSD I got for under $300. When 4TB or 10TB SSDs are cost-effective, if I want one of those, it's another easy swap.

    The "just buy all the machine you'll need up front" approach is wasteful. You'll get more capacity and spend less money in total by starting with just enough, then upgrading. But if cost is no object, or you're solidly committed to just replacing your machine every year, knock yourself out. At least with Apple gear you get good resale value.