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Online Drug Sales Triple After Silk Road Closure, Says Report (nbcnews.com)

The closure of Silk Road -- a marketplace where internet users could purchase drugs and other illegal goods -- in 2013 has had little to no effect on drug sales. According to a new report from RAND, online drug sales have tripled since the site was shut down. NBC News reports: "Since then, an estimated 50 'cryptomarkets and vendor shops where vendors and buyers find each other anonymously to trade illegal drugs, new psychoactive substances, prescription drugs and other goods and services,' have emerged to fill the void, according to the report. The research, which was commissioned by the Netherlands Ministry of Security and Justice, examined data from January and found dealers in the United States had the largest market share with 35.9 percent, followed by the United Kingdom at 16.1 percent and Australia at 10.6 percent. Marijuana was the top seller in January, accounting for 33 percent of illicit drug sales online, followed by prescription medication at 19 percent and stimulants at 18 percent."

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  1. Shocking! by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who could have ever imagined that this could happen. Remember when we shut down Pirate Bay and completely stopped all copyright infringement? Oh wait, we just spawned hundreds more torrent sites, and even though kickass torrents was just taken down, pirate bay is actually back up again... What a giant waste of money.

  2. Re:Markets Work, Bitches by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the rich are terribly addicted to power and control of fellow man.

    I'd like to see a war on rich sociopaths. humanity would move up several degrees if we redistributed the weath these assholes are hoarding.

    the middle and lower classes don't have life as good and so they endulge in things that numb the pain of life.

    don't blame them. blame the ones who perpetually insist on having a lower class, and pushing us all down there, more and more over time.

    there are many wars in classist societies. the war on 'drugs' is a false one and is a distraction to keep us from thinking of how much the 'haves' have. equalize things and stop insisting that people who like things you don't like should be put in prison.

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  3. Re:The other drug problem by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wait until the retired start using the dark web to get prescriptions filled from 'virtual Mexico' nationwide.

    They already are. Short of doing that, go to Costco and you can get medication at pretty fair prices. Unless you're getting it for free or have a $5 co-pay, Costco is the way to go.

    For example, a popular anti-cholesterol drug, Atorvastatin, at Rite-Aid is $255 for 90 pills. The same pills bought through Costco are $16.

    If that's not price gouging, I don't know what is. They must be following the Martin Shkreli pricing plan.

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  4. Shocking development by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

    "According to a new report from RAND, online drug sales have tripled since the site was shut down. NBC News reports"

    Who could have seen that coming? I mean, besides EVERYONE.

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  5. Re:Markets Work, Bitches by PRMan · · Score: 2

    France already tried this. It didn't work out too well.

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  6. Marijuana prohibition is a farce by MrKaos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It causes less deaths than tobacco and alcohol and prohibition of it is just another form of social control. The absurdity of the 'house of cards' that prohibits it has more negative effects on society than the plant has ever caused and that's before we start looking at the plethora of medical benefits it has.

    Take marijuana off the black market and the funding for many other criminal operations will dry up.

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    1. Re:Marijuana prohibition is a farce by MrKaos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Translation I want to smoke pot. Now let me rationalize it.

      No need to rationalize it. People don't rationalize drinking beer, wine or spirits - they do it because they want to. Here is a rationalization for you, I like it, I laugh my ass off and I have a great time.

      However as a painkiller that my doctor suggested for having a snapped achillies tendon it was a much better option than liver failure from the oral painkillers I was taking.

      Legalize Pot and all other crimes will stop because Pot funds them.

      Why are you or anyone else qualified to make value judgements about peoples choices that have no impact on you.

      It makes so much money, they FUND other crime. That could all be tax money, deficit solved Thank you.

      What it does is criminalizes a lot of people that should not be exposed to the prison system. If you can, for a moment step out of your prejudice and ask yourself if the pot someone is smoking will do them more harm in ten years than a two year prison term will do, six months into it?

      Or how much policing for violent crimes a police officer can do if they are not writing up a pot arrest for 3 hours in the station? How much time is taken up in the court system dealing with cases, how many prison officers have to be hired to guard them?

      What does it say about a society that has social controls for a plant that has been with humanity for so long that there are receptors in our brain for Cannabinoids?

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    2. Re:Marijuana prohibition is a farce by MrKaos · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Your "freedom" stops at others' freedom

      Your freedom stops where someone else's begins. You have no right

      from your potentially reckless and harmful behaviour under the influence.

      You mean like drunk people? Here is the science what drugs cause what harm

      Pot gets you high much more easily than alcohol gets you drunk

      citation please

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  7. well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the people who are "fighting" the "war on drugs" don't actually want to "win"
    Think about it

  8. Re: Markets Work, Bitches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Depends what the problems are with the addiction. Tabacco is addictive but legal and it causes all kinds of health issues over time. Addiction alone isn't the reason drugs are illegal. Alcohol's acceptance in western society is probably the greatest of hypocrisies I can think of as proof.

    Alcohol is a substantial factor in crime, mostly violent crime. There is also the risk of traffic crashes associated with its consumption.

    One of the main reasons to have some substances illegal is probably religion. The altered states of mind pose a direct challenge to the accepted reality that religion prescribes to its followers and are probably the most likely thing to cause cultlike challengers to mainstream religion, not including insanity.

    It's also that the corrupt old people in control of the world don't like the fact that drugs make it harder to control the population. (Well you could probably get some junkies to do anything for a fix). Cannabis users in particular question societies control structures and lean towards the far left in general.

    The consequences of an addiction with the state are probably worse than the addiction itself is for you and society. Of course some drugs are much worse than others.

    I think the worst part of the drugs, even the non addictive substances is probably the mental health issues they can cause. But health issue is what is important about that statement. Psychosis is a real risk of drug use. Methamphetamine and Cannabis in particular.

    The cost of these substances is articifically inflated by their illegality making the problems associated with their use increase. One reason to demand addictive substances be illegal is the crime used to fund the addictions. It's all kind of catch 22. The drugs that are plant based could be grown by the user themselves potentially removing many problems but certainly increasing supply and further causing the price to drop.

    Either way, the war on drugs is a great way to get the poor and minorities institutionalised as it currently stands. Most of Hollywood would be incarcerated of the goal was to actually go after users. It's more about who is using and who police come into contact with while using.

    A fair and just society would create voluntarily segregated areas that allowed for drug use much like a bar does for alcohol. A safe place to consume and a place for junkies to remain to keep society safe from them. We already put them in jail but donwe really need to remove soany rights from them and focus on punishment? I don't think so.

    And all this in societies that allow people to legally obtain firearms. I can understand in rural areas where there are dangerous animals. But anyone holding a gun for "self defence" basically is saying they want to shoot someone. Most gun nut lunatics I've met really seem like deep down inside they just want to legally be able to kill someone, just like soany young guys who join the military. The right to bear arms is also great in theory to dissolve the government but it's great in theory much the same way that communism works on paper. People are the problem.

    I can't wait for a benevolent AI to rule (support the existence of civilised society) us.

  9. Re:The other drug problem by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And atorvastatin is a generic, formerly Lipitor. The new monopolist strategy is to game the governmental restrictions on supply to raise the US prices for drugs which are generic worldwide. This was exactly Shkreli's strategy.

    What's new is use of the dark web, heretofore the domain of meth dealers and hitman agencies. When the federosaurus fined Google half a billion dollars (yes, billion with a B) for the crime of letting Canadian pharmacies advertise low prices to US customers, they set the stage for this. Now that places like Sun City are filling up with the generation that grew up dealing on black markets for recreational drugs, it won't be long before the bridge club installs a Tor node.

  10. Re:I guess Law are useless then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    perhaps we could just end prohibition and use the police and our government to pursue more productive endeavours?

  11. Re:I guess Law are useless then by Air-conditioned+cowh · · Score: 2

    Prohibition is a stupid law and makes the police and courts look stupid when they try and enforce it.

  12. Re:Markets Work, Bitches by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Only due to market reasons. The void was quickly filled by new assholes.

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  13. Re: Markets Work, Bitches by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Something like this has been tried, with some rather amazing results. Basically what Wörgl (a community in Austria) did during the depression was to pay its workers in scrip, which lost a percent of its value per month. In other words, you WANTED to spend that money, because of a very obvious inflation of 1% a month. People were quite eager to keep the money in circulation.

    Of course the national bank could not have such heresy and put a lid onto this after just over a year.

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  14. Re:The actual cause of ALL of this by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So what's your address. I'll anonymously send you a free sample by mail. Boy are you going to have fun when they execute that no knock warrant!

    The real problem is that everything that touches money smells like drugs these days. They'll be ripping open birthday cards to grandkids all day long.

    The other problem is they would catch far too many of the wrong drug users. Wall Street and Hollywood would be empty wastelands, for example.