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Tesla Owner In China Blames Autopilot For Crash (usatoday.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from USA Today: The owner of a Tesla Motors Model S sedan in China reportedly said his vehicle crashed into a car on the side of the road while the vehicle's Autopilot system was engaged, but the automaker said the driver was using the system improperly. Luo Zhen, 33, of Beijing told Reuters that his vehicle collided with a parked car on the left side of a highway, damaging both vehicles but injuring no one. He criticized Tesla sales people for allegedly describing the vehicle as "self-driving." "The impression they give everyone is that this is self-driving, this isn't assisted driving," he told Reuters. In the new case in China, Tesla said the Model S was "following closely behind the car in front of it when the lead car moved to the right to avoid hitting the parked car." "The driver of the Tesla, whose hands were not detected on the steering wheel, did not steer to avoid the parked car and instead scraped against its side," Tesla said Wednesday in a statement. "As clearly communicated to the driver in the vehicle, Autosteer is an assist feature that requires the driver to keep his hands on the steering wheel at all times, to always maintain control and responsibility for the vehicle, and to be prepared to take over at any time."

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  1. Re:bad driving by Kjella · · Score: 3, Informative

    You are a perfect illustration of the problem Tesla faces. You think you know what an airplane's autopilot does, based solely on the name, but you have no real clue.

    To do something on autopilot to mean "without thinking" has been an idiom much longer than Tesla has used it. This is not some kind of unexpected misunderstanding.

    Etymology: based on the literal meaning of automatic pilot (a system that flies a plane without human effort)

    There are many less boasting terms like adaptive cruise control, lane assist etc. that could have been used and have been used by other car companies. They picked autopilot because it sounds new and revolutionary. He's a perfect illustration of the impression Tesla's marketing division wanted to give, while the execs call it beta (as in, will be self-driving soon we're just knocking out a few bugs) and their legal department provides the disclaimers. And disclaimer are everywhere for legal CYA, like if you read your average EULA the software is not usable for anything. That's not what people really expect, even if that's what it says.

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  2. Re:The have a sensor... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The sensor does stop the car after a couple of minutes of not touching the wheel or responding to prompts.

    I don't think forcing the user to keep their hands on the wheel at all times will help much. Take a look at this video of a guy sleeping with autopilot on, presumably with one hand on the wheel so that it thinks he is paying attention.

    The real issue here is that if the car does 99.9% of the work for hours on end you can't really expect human beings to remain attentive and ready to take over in a fraction of a second. Tesla have found the danger zone of inattentiveness between a high level of automation and full autonomy.

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  3. Re:Autopilot is a glorified cruise control by arth1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    the damning thing is really that tesla doesn't disengage the autopilot or stop the car if the driver isn't holding the wheel for extended periods of time.

    They do, but the timer for the dead man switch is 4 minutes. One might argue that this is a too extended period of time.
    Still, it's nice to know that if you have a cardiac arrest, they can pick up your corpse near where it happened, and the Tesla won't drive you to the next state.

  4. Re:Autopilot is a glorified cruise control by michelcolman · · Score: 5, Informative

    An autopilot landing is actually more work and is more stressful than a normal, manual landing. There's a checklist of things to verify before you can even start the approach, and we have to be extremely attentive to any errors the autopilot could make. We regularly practice these approaches in the simulator: ground equipment failures, autopilot failures, instrument failures, engine failures, you name it. Some of these are quite subtle, like the one that crashed a Turkish Airlines flight in Amsterdam in 2009. The radio altimeter malfunctioned, so the autopilot thought it was close to the ground and pulled the throttles back to idle. In reality, the plane was still 500 ft above the ground and stalled.

    Interestingly, the accident was classified as "pilot error" because the pilots should have intervened when the speed dropped below approach speed.

  5. Re:Driver may be foolish, but by SmilingBoy · · Score: 1, Informative

    Maybe it should handle the situation, but the manual is very clear that this exact situation is one that cannot be handled: "Warning: Traffic-Aware Cruise Control can not detect all objects and may not brake/decelerate for stationary vehicles, especially in situations when you are driving over 50 mph (80 km/h) and a vehicle you are following moves out of your driving path and a stationary vehicle or object, bicycle, or pedestrian is in front of you instead. Always pay attention to the road ahead and stay prepared to take immediate corrective action. Depending on Traffic-Aware Cruise Control to avoid a collision can result in serious injury or death."