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First US Offshore Wind Farm To Usher In New Era For Industry (ap.org)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Associated Press: The nation's first offshore wind farm is set to open off the coast of Rhode Island this fall, ushering in a new era in the U.S. for the industry. Developers, federal regulators and industry experts say the opening will move the U.S. industry from a theory to reality, paving the way for the construction of many more wind farms that will eventually provide power for many Americans. Deepwater Wind is building a five-turbine wind farm off Block Island, Rhode Island to power about 17,000 homes. The project costs about $300 million, according to the company. CEO Jeffrey Grybowski said the Block Island wind farm enables larger projects because it proves that wind farms can be built along the nation's coast. Offshore wind farms, which benefit from strong winds because of their location, are being proposed near population epicenters that lack the space to build on land. Indeed, several states are pushing ambitious clean energy goals, which include offshore wind. Among them is California, which has a target of generating 50 percent of its power from renewable sources by 2030. Vermont hopes to hit 55 percent by next year and Hawaii has called for 100 percent renewable power by 2045.

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  1. Re:a maintenance nightmare by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a former marine engineer I have doubts.

    This is a first for America, but Europeans started doing offshore wind 25 years ago. We are building on that successful experience, not starting from scratch.

  2. Re:a maintenance nightmare by mspohr · · Score: 1, Informative

    It's a good thing that you're a former marine engineer since you're obviously clueless about offshore wind farms. There are about 2500 off shore wind turbines.
    List here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    They seem to have solved your imaginary problems.

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  3. Re:Can anyone say wind turbine boondoggle? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Informative

    Building anything to handle a 100% salt spray exposure dramatically increases the cost. Have a boat on a lake? Takes some maintenance. Have the same boat on the ocean/saltwater harbor and required maintenance skyrockets. Saltwater is incredibly corrosive. What works in fresh water will quickly die in saltwater (even stainless steel will corrode away in saltwater). Add in parts that have full 360 degree spins so open bearing races (sure, lubricated - but still open) and you're asking for a lot of trouble.

    On land, you can use a lot of materials that simply will not hold up to constant salt spray exposure (like aluminum).

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  4. Re:Can anyone say wind turbine boondoggle? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1, Informative

    Note: it takes 17 years to recoup your initial investment; you'll make profit only for the last 3 years of the 20 year lifespan.

    In 20 years, when the accountants finally add up the sums . . . the folks who organized all this will be retired and drinking cocktails on the beach in the Caribbean. So it will not be a problem for them if the whole thing is later exposed as a scam.

    The next generation of younger politicians will sweep the mess under the carpet . . . so that they can profit from a newer, more ambitious project.

    And that assumes your maintenance costs are zero...

    Flipper and Aqua Man have agreed to do the maintenance for free!

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  5. Re:Some quick questions by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Part of the $300M is for building a grid to carry the electricity back to shore. This is a fixed cost for most wind farms. It doesn't matter if you have one turbine or 25 you are still going to have to build that connection in order to send the electricity back. So the more turbines you have in your farm the better you can spread this cost out per turbine.

    Note that each turbine will have a cost associated with connecting it to the to the grid that makes up the wind farm. The more turbines that you have in the farm the larger this grid is and the more it will cost to connect them together. But the turbines are always going to be much closer together than they are from the shore so the cost to connect the turbines is going to be smaller than connecting the farm to the shore.

    Wind turbines are getting larger all the time and when they get larger they get more expensive. However as the length, n, increases the power available goes up as a function of the area swept by the blades, n^2. Of course nobody is doubling the blade length but we are seeing turbines of 5MW and more where a few years ago it was 4MW. So yes the turbines are getting more expensive but that's because they are able to generate more electricity.

  6. Re:a maintenance nightmare by Cyberax · · Score: 2, Informative

    Even in Europe the installed offshore wind capacity is pretty much a rounding error. If we look at Denmark then they have 1.2GW of installed offshore generation with a capacity factor of about 20%. So that's just 300MW of average generation without guaranteed capacity. I.e. less than one block of a modern thermal power plant or 1/4-th of one reactor in a modern nuclear power plant.

    It's mostly OK for Denmark because they export excess energy into Norway and Sweden which store it in hydroaccmulating powerplants. But that doesn't scale at all.

  7. Re:"Must" means a lot of things by khallow · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've seen the future of wind farms, at the southern tip of Hawaii, in the plains of California... after fifteen to twenty years of playing with the toys they all end up as decaying eyesores once people realize they cost a lot more than they give back in power.

    The problem here is that the technology of wind turbines changes. And one of the things that is changing is how much maintenance a wind turbine needs. For example, this link claims that average annual maintenance costs as a fraction of initial investment has gone from 3% for "older" wind turbines over their lifespan to 1.5-2% for current generation.

  8. Re:a maintenance nightmare by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's already fallen very rapidly, especially from about 2000 to 2015. Projections are looking good, even the conservative ones.

    http://www.resourcereports.com...

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