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First Confirmed Prism Surveillance Target Was Democracy Activist (fortune.com)

A new report by Television New Zealand in collaboration with The Intercept, based on leaks of former U.S. National Security Agency worker Edward Snowden has for the first time named a target of the NSA's controversial Prism program. The target was a middle-aged civil servant and pro-democracy activist named Tony Fullman. Fullman, who is originally from Fiji but has lived in New Zealand for decades, is an advocate for democracy in Fiji and a critic of Fijian prime minister Frank Bainimarama, who took power in a 2006 coup. From a Fortune report: According to The Intercept, the NSA in 2012 monitored Fullman's communications through the Prism program and passed on information to the New Zealand intelligence services. Around the same time, the New Zealand authorities raided Fullman's home and revoked his passport. The New Zealand intelligence services were not themselves allowed to spy on Fullman, who was a New Zealand citizen. However, as Snowden has repeatedly described, the agencies of many Anglophone countries spy on each other's behalf, in order to bypass their national legal restrictions. Fullman suggested in the article that people in the group may well have said violent things about Bainimarama, but this was just venting, not a plot. According to the report, they never suspected someone was listening into their communications. The NSA was said to be helping by analyzing Fullman's Facebook and Gmail activities. The 190 pages of intercepted documentation seen by The Intercept apparently didn't reveal evidence of a plot.

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  1. Encryption by HumanWiki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And this is exactly why the general public needs encryption and why various TLA outfits and buddies like to use the "think of the children" garbage to denounce it.

    1. Re:Encryption by HumanWiki · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's incorrect. There is always, going back many thousands of years, a struggle between the "smarter mouse and better mouse trap". That's how it is.

      Do you honestly think that some laws on paper will stop TLA agencies from doing things they shouldn't? They already violate laws and "get around" them.. H*ll, that's called out right in the summary.

    2. Re:Encryption by Maritz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Getting around math is not like getting around a law. That's the short answer to that point.

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    3. Re:Encryption by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Informative

      Brute force will break any encryption.

      Not true. Some encryption simply cannot be broken. However it is a major pain to set up, and you have to trust the parties on either end completely to not copy the pad and to destroy the pad once it has been used. Failing that, however, it cannot be broken.

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    4. Re: Encryption by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If the pad is destroyed there is no way you can reproduce it - especially not from memory. As for "brute force" torture is not perfect. If it was, authority would keep using it despite all the "moral" issues. Torture is useless when you create a person who fabricates anything to get you to stop. They will confess to everything, and admit everything, which is absolutely useless because you're left with the doubts of your suspicions being confirmed because they're true, or because the person made it up. Back in the old days when you were going to hang the person anyway it didn't really matter. Nowadays there is still at least a sliver of law and due process left and you have the embarrassing task of having to account for the dead body.

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  2. Politics as usual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You might wonder why a pro-democracy country is spying on a pro-democracy campaigner. It's not because of any 'terrorist' BS, that's just the excuse. They monitored him, so that when they negotiate with Fiji in future, they can offer him up as a bargaining chip.

    From the article: "Fullman reckons the timing of the raids was connected with the New Zealand foreign minister’s visit to Fiji for trade talks, just days later."

    And this is why NSA and GCHQ spying on their own countrymen's communications is a bad thing (it is NOT harmless). Because the data they capture is used in political deals against the rights of the target and against the interests of the country as a whole.

    New Zealand would have pulled his passport to secure a trade deal if necessary, so that they could tout a trade deal as a political win. All hidden from legal and democratic observation by the veil of 'security'.

    1. Re:Politics as usual by meta-monkey · · Score: 2

      You might wonder why a pro-democracy country is spying on a pro-democracy campaigner.

      Perhaps they have different definitions of democracy? There's also a lot of people who FUCKIN' LOVE DEMOCRACY until their side loses.

      One would need to examine the guy's actual politics before clutching pearls about targeting a "pro-democracy" activist as described by The Guardian.

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  3. Fantastic... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for how helping protect Fiji's military government from possible plots connects with the goal of protecting the US from terrorism, right?

    Was the NSA trying to protect the TSA from dehydration by ensuring that American air travelers would continue to have that Fiji bottled water to confiscate?

    1. Re:Fantastic... by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >helping protect Fiji's military government from possible plots

      Rather odd that NZ would do that, considering that both NZ and Australia called Bainimarama a dictator and imposed sanctions against Fiji for years. But he got elected PM in 2014, so it's all cool now.

      It can be pretty embarrassing politically for a government to have a plot to kill a foreign head of state hatched on their soil, so if they thought he was a possible threat it was in their interest to monitor him. You can also take the recent "coup" attempt in Turkey as another reason: it can help provide evidence for/against another state's claim that an expat dissident might have masterminded failed, poorly executed coup that is now being used as an excuse to purge other dissenting individuals and entities

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    2. Re:Fantastic... by c · · Score: 2

      It can be pretty embarrassing politically for a government to have a plot to kill a foreign head of state hatched on their soil, so if they thought he was a possible threat it was in their interest to monitor him.

      A coup is only a good thing if the guys you like win and you're in a position to take advantage of the situation.

      Otherwise, involuntary changes of government are a huge source of instability.

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  4. How is this not illegal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's illegal for most countries to spy on their own citizens, but it's not illegal to share spy data with allies and have them give you the information on your own citizens that your own laws preclude?
    This is a violation of the spirit if not the letter of the law. Acquiring such information from allies should be just as illegal as spying on your country's own citizens, full stop.

    1. Re:How is this not illegal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where is a +1 Inciteful mod when you need it.

  5. scratch my back and I'll scratch yours by ls671 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours:

    You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
    Fig. You do a favor for me and I'll do a favor for you.; If you do something for me that I cannot do for myself, I will do something for you that you cannot do for yourself. I'll grab the box on the top shelf if you will creep under the table and pick up my pen. You scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours.

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  6. Cheaters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...in our own government.

      However, as Snowden has repeatedly described, the agencies of many Anglophone countries spy on each other's behalf, in order to bypass their national legal restrictions

    I am not surprised, but I am very, very disappointed. We have let the terrorists win because we have let them cow us into abandoning any sense of justice and liberty for some bullshit illusion of security. I now fear my own government far more than I fear "teh terrorists". That, or in a more cynical view, the oligarch's who control much of the "free world" are using this opportunity to consolidate their power and neutralize threats. Either way, Snowden should receive the Medal of Freedom.

  7. Re:Suspected of a Crime by number6x · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Simple. He is an activist that promotes Democracy. He believes in things like freedom, liberty and in the rights of the individual.

    What could be a bigger crime in the west today than promoting Democracy?

  8. Encryption relies on trust by XXongo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if government agencies can get around laws restricting them from spying on you without consequence then what makes you think the average person can rely on easily available encryption to protect them?

    Getting around math is not like getting around a law. That's the short answer to that point.

    Unless people are mathematicians themselves, they are unable to personally verify the effectiveness of an encryption algorithm. When you use an encryption algorithm, you have to trust it works without a secret decryption algorithm.

  9. Re:Proof. by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Informative

    Qu'on me donne six lignes écrites de la main du plus honnête homme, j'y trouverai de quoi le faire pendre.

    If one gives me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something there to hang him.

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