Metropolitan Police To Target Online Hate Crime and Abuse (bbc.com)
A new team of specialist police officers is being set up to investigate online hate crimes, including abuse on Twitter and Facebook. The London-based hub will include a team of five officers who will support victims and identify online abuse, reports BBC. From the report: The two-year pilot will cost 1.7m pound and has received 452,000 pound from the Home Office, the London Mayor's office said. A spokesman said there was "no place for hate" in London and there would be a "zero tolerance" of online abuse. The team, which will be set up in the coming months, will identify the location of crimes and allocate them to the appropriate force. They will work with a team of volunteers. The Mayor's Office for Policing And Crime (Mopac) said social media "provides hate crime perpetrators with a veil of anonymity, making it harder to bring them to justice and potentially impacting on a larger number of people".
They will protect political correctness and leave the real victims by the wayside. Too bad it isn't politically correct to prosecute the extremists causing a disproportionate amount of hate speech and physical attacks.
Will these five agents travel the world, arresting all the people from the internet? This is like James Bond!
I don't mean it as an insult, but as an actual statement. They are mentally ill, for real. Brainwashed and dangerously stupid.
What is this exactly? Mean tweets?
. . . . on the INTERNET ??
That makes holding back the tide with a teaspoon look doable, in contrast. . . .
Are you AVIN' A GOOD TIME?
Are you enJOYIN' yourself then eh? You filthy scum?
Welly welly welly welly well well welly well well it's off to the nick with the lot of ya, EVERYONE ONLINE
Saying "Your mama" is now a crime.
to waste tax payer money on shit that doesn't really matter because a vocal minority of butt hurt retards won't shut the fuck up and get on with their lives. Just sayin...
I hate your program! HateHateHateHate it!
Coming to a theater near you.
You have no right to stop people saying things that offend you. Nobody makes you listen. Don't pretend speech is radicalizing muslims, its not words that's doing it, its the bombs you're dropping from drones.
Nobody makes you read anonymous comments, nobody makes you take them seriously, you do that yourself.
All that happens when you give people special censorship powers, if they claim to be a victim, is to misuse that special power to censor stuff. Saying victims fear online stuff will happen in the real world, is like saying "BOGEYMEN ARE REAL!!! We'll protect you!". Can you protect people from the demons they make in their imaginations? Can you kettle those bogeymen?
No?
So what you're saying is that person X's imagined fears trump person Y's right to free speech. And Person Y cannot speak freely because there are lots of X's waiting to take offense that can shut down speech.
Theresa May wasn't elected PM, she and her supporters manipulated her into power. She needs to leave. It's a democracy and she wasn't elected. Now we have her choices to suppress free speech and legalize mass surveillance, she can stand on her choices at the next election, which needs to be soon. She needs to go. And I can say that because I'm not in the UK and am still free to speak without the MET kicking my door down.
I *should* be able to say the very same thing in more hurtful words. Words are words, they are not deeds and claiming words = deeds is a lie from people who want to punish free speech as a crime.
Always so convinced that you can "police" the internet...always wrong. So very, very wrong.
Good on them for targeting online hate and abuse I suppose, it's better than ignoring it and counting the ad dollars...oh, sorry, "supporting free speech," Twitter. Don't know how that slipped out there, the censorship filters mustn't be working.
The right to offend is more important than the right not to be offended.
The thought police are coming. Be afraid.. Most people are for it. In fact they would have you locked up for daring to malign or ridicule the idea.
"Hate crime" Jeebus! Can somebody tell me why motivation makes a difference? They are just saying a crime of assault/murder is perfectly justifiable if the reasons are right and the perpetrator is "righteous". And "online abuse", a scandal created out of thin air to make censorship more palatable.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Officer, someone said a bad thing about me on teh interweb!
Imagine all the real crime that's going to go unaddressed while the police chase down jackasses on Twitter and Facebook.
"Yeah, we'd like to get an officer out to talk with you about your home invasion and attempted rape complaint, but HamDogg2251 just insulted SpecialSnowFlake4550 on Twitter, so we won't be able to come out until sometime next week."
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
It is impossible to legislate thought, which is the origin of anything which could be described as hate.
Thus the notion that online speech could possibly be regulated is something only a fool OR someone
with an underlying agenda would consider plausible.
However, this will give the police even more powers to intrude into the lives of others. Or should I
say "Das Leben des anderen" ? The similarity between the old East German STASI and the current
police in the UK grows more chillingly close with each passing day.
As our prison system wasnt filled with enough criminals, we need thought criminals, people who point fingers, complainers, bullies, next door neighbors that we dont like etc. Lockem all up and GET OFF MY LAWN.
What this world is coming to - is for you and me to decide.
Moral Statute Machine:
Your repeated violation of the Verbal Morality Statute has caused me to notify the San Angeles Police Department. Please remain where you are for your reprimand.
Simon Phoenix:
I'm sorry to say that the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of robed sissies.
I would guess this just a play for more money so a bunch of these guys can sit around surfing the internet pretending to look for offensive comments and get paid for it. Gotta check those porn sites for bad behaviour now.
Dyslexics Untie!
#freemilo
... best be cleaning up your act on here, else the jerries will be coming for you. Or is it bobbies? Coppers? Sadly, I don't know my proper English slang terms as well as I should.
For 5 officers over two years? I'm in the wrong career.
If people are out looking for something to be offended by they will inevitably find it. Why do otherwise civilized societies keep pandering to these butt hurt babies that can't avert their eyes from shit they don't like? My whole life I was told if I don't like something, don't do it, don't look at it, don't get involved. When the fuck did we change from that to "Ban it, delete it, get it out of the world."
I feel like I'm in the fucking Twilight Zone. We used to mock the nanny state.
Off the deep end.
The Metropolitan Police are a bunch of poncy poofters!
It is impossible to legislate thought
It's also not necessary. Terrorizing the crimethinkers into silence is sufficient.
However, this will give the police even more powers to intrude into the lives of others.
That's fine
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
In light of recent events concerning Twitter and Facebooks censorship of unwanted conservative wrongthink, I have full confidence in our Bobbies that they will handle the job completely objective and unbiased.
I in particular do not expect any censorship of islam critical voices, particularly after nationwide child rape and trafficking scandals.
I certainly don't expect them to silence voices critical of the government, of the ultra-leftists such as SJWs or of 3rd wave feminists.
And of course I am looking forward to seeing all people held to equally high standards.
Now excuse me, I have an appointment at the vet's, apparently the floating bladder of my flying pig has a nasty infection.
Written or spoken word can be insult, defamation or ??
Hate crime seems to be a crime (deed) against a person or group - how is this possible with words?
If it's (a deed or fact) being reported/mentioned on some internet place, it is possibly worth pursuing by some police, but this seems to become a thought-police type thing. Where are the exact rules and regulations to get a hold of what is going on except politician/hype.
Is England going the Turkey way - wholesale locking up judges/journalists/soldiers without due process because of one mentally sick madman?
while I do not advocate hate, this is literally "thought police" and can be grossly abused.
Ask yourself: would ISIL/daesh love to implement folks with this kind of power over the average person. If your answer is yes then you should have some second thoughts about putting this power in the hands of anyone.
If you can't question why you do it, then you might be doing something very unwise or evil.
You don't need to worry about what you say online, as long as you don't call Peter Thiel a big homo.
The reality is that it is in use in China and works pretty well. Further, most of the people using it support it. The solution is a real ID system where the ID of posters is simple to check and that the users are aware that it is easy to check their ID.
Yes, there would be concerns to be addressed, such as protecting people from having their usage history published; however, it is not insurmountable. With th e sense of anonymity gone, most people would feel less free to act stupid.
Anybody got an email address for the London mayor's office? MOPAC? Any of these wankers?
I want to make their first investigation an easy one.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm’n 514 U.S. 334, 357 (1995),
"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation—and their ideas from suppression—at the hand of an intolerant society. The right to remain anonymous may be abused when it shields fraudulent conduct. But political speech by its nature will sometimes have unpalatable consequences, and, in general, our society accords greater weight to the value of free speech than to the dangers of its misuse."
I have nothing else to say but... f-ing twats.
certain targets will be allowed as "insight" and "comedy" and others will be protected and their enemies erased. Who decides?
the same people who've been deciding.
Meanwhile Pakistani Muslim gangs are raping and pimping thousands of young girls. Yes, it's apparently still going on and the police are hesitant to do anything out of fear of being "racist".
sure no place for hate against the most hatefull of all. Exactly that is what those hatefull want, to have the freedom to hate whatever they want without having to answer to anyone, or get hated back , which would only be normal in a normal world. This world is not normal and all the insane are running the show.
Wow, moving on to online "hate and abuse crimes". They must have solved all of the actual real world violence and now they have nothing to do. Oh wait, whats that? Violent crime is only back down to what it was back in the 80s? They still have one of the highest rates of knife crime in the world?
Apparently people are more abusive when using their real name:
http://qz.com/741933/internet-trolls-are-even-more-hostile-when-theyre-using-their-real-names-a-study-finds/
I suspect it works in China because people are concerned about being executed. Hey, maybe executions are the next thing for the UK.
These faggots just wanted a job that produces nothing.
Rushpuct muh authorituh.
Why is this on Slashdot? Windows story, then what people think on Facebook and now oh no...
Slashdot is another episode of Cops. Fuck yourselves. If you want to be useful expose what the USA government spies on. But you can't, because it is you FBI at Slashdot.
Fuck you, freedom of speech! That's just a lame concept the colonists threw around for a while. We're better than that!
People must learn to stop yakking online about stuff they have no business meddling into. People have to follow rules and shut up, and let experts do the thinking. We wouldn't have Brexit if the government had done its part correctly. Putting some fear in the heart of the mobs will teach them to think correctly and to behave.
And my stated reason for murdering both Person A and Person B was "I didn't like they way he looked," should the punishment be different? I should hope not.
But if Person B was a member of some racial minority and Person A was not, you would probably want to tack on some sort of racial hate crime even though my inner crazy criteria was "His left ear is bigger than his right, he must die."
Brits don't have the freedom they all think and this is just another example. But they don't have any weapons so they can't do anything about it no matter what.
i hope they have a large travel budget.
China is a brutally oppressive totalitarian society. Copy nothing that they do. Any time you find yourself recommending that that we copy something the Chinese government does? That's how you know you've gone off the rails.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Are they going to round up the people that use #KillAllMen?
I may not agree with what another man says, but I will defend to the death his right to say it.
These thought police have no place in a modern civilized society where discourse is to be encouraged. Think all muslims are terrorists and all black people murders? I do not agree, but neither do I agree that the government has the right to tell people what to think or feel or publicly express. We do not, never have, and never will tow the line. Incarceration with radicalize people not defuse them.
I believe the truth is, they want people to fight each other. There is no other outcome from demonizing people for their beliefs than to forge that belief as something they have suffered for and will therefore believe even more strongly.
If someone were to tell me that purple is vile, and then throw me in jail for believing purple is just another color and neither good nor evil. You can bet I would wear a purple shirt, hat, pants, socks and underwear while seeking to settle the score with the purple haters. It is our nature.
That will go well. A good example why the police must be severely limited in what they are allowed to do, as otherwise they will turn into a gang of thugs that stomp hard on anything even slightly amiss in their eyes.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Apparently you believe the UK is subject to the constitution, laws and legal precedents of the USA. You're wrong.
Now how about catching the prick who mugged me? Oh a black guy in a black area? Sorry case closed...
Very likely this account @MetLGBTNetwork has been manned by 5 trolls and sounds a lot like @CrashOverrideNW (aka C.O.N, created by Zoe Quinn, the person Gamergate accused of sleeping around to boost her work and horrible game). @MetLGBTNetwork has already threatened someone and deleted the tweet to avoid a scandal, making twitter folks wonder who is actually doing this work (pissed off SJW biased trolls)? Will there be oversight and punishment when they abuse the system (which they most likely will).
Someone highlighting the threatening tweet: https://twitter.com/calherick/status/764014381973643264 ...check Storify tweet in the thread. It contains screencap of said threat.
Considering that all of the top Social Media sites used in the UK (http://wearesocial.com/uk/blog/2015/02/uks-top-social-networks) are based in the USA, such sites are subject to the laws and legal precedents of the USA. Yet that's not the point. In order to have the full benefits of free speech (a vibrant marketplace of ideas), you ought allow anonymity precisely because it lowers the barriers of entry for any on those ideas into the marketplace. China is still under the control of the communist party, which explicitly suppresses competing ideas because the endanger the party narrative, not because they care about protecting the vanity of teen girls that can't handle people telling them their hair is ugly. The truth is the Internet (defined as an end to end, peer to peer network) is and has been a great leveler of ideas, which is driving the elite of all nations to look for any excuse to gain a greater control of it.