Oracle Is Funding a New Anti-Google Group (fortune.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via Fortune: Oracle says it is funding a new non-profit called "Campaign for Accountability," which consists of a campaign called "The Google Transparency Project" that claims to expose criminal behavior carried out by Google. "Oracle is absolutely a contributor (one of many) to the Transparency Project. This is important information for the public to know. It is 100 percent public records and accurate," said Ken Glueck, Senior Vice President of Oracle. Fortune reports: "Oracle's hidden hand is not a huge surprise since the company has a history of sneaky PR tactics, and is still embroiled in a bitter intellectual property lawsuit with Google." One would think Microsoft may be another contributor, but the company said it is not. Daniel Stevens, the deputy director of the CfA, declined to name the group's other donors, or to explain why it does not disclose its funders. Why does this matter? "When wealthy companies or individuals pose as a grass-roots group like the so-called 'campaign for accountability' project, [it] can confuse news and public relations, and foster public cynicism," writes Jeff John Roberts via Fortune.

Comments

If Google is doing something illegal

[PhrostyMcByte]

Then call them out on it already. Don't care if it's Oracle holding a childish grudge or not.

Re:If Google is doing something illegal

[Anonymous Coward]

Thank you for your post Larry.

Re:If Google is doing something illegal

[MightyMartian]

Oh bullshit. Oracle lost because Oracle never had a fucking case.

Christ, Microsoft shills is one thing, but defending one of the most vile tech companies that ever existed, gimme a break. Every time Oracle gets shafted, an angel gets its wings.

I'll bet it's all Larry

[surfdaddy]

Larry Ellison is likely pissed that Google managed to make a ton of money over the language that Oracle bought with Sun, but never managed to do anything with it. So go after Google. I also wouln't be surprised if Microsoft is involved. Microsoft likes to be a tough competitor but they don't like other tough competitors.

Re:I'll bet it's all Larry

[Antique Geekmeister]

"Microsoft says it is not involved", as quoted in the article, is not precisely the same claim as "Microsoft is not involved". Microsoft demonstrated during the SCO/Linux lawsuits that they could, and did, hide their business sponsorship of morally bankrupt legal fraud by encouraging their business partners to engage in support of the fraudulent litigants. That effectively kept Microsoft funding of the lawsuit from showing up in any directly traceable payments.

Honest question time

[Anonymous Coward]

Honest question time. Has anybody ever used an Oracle product that wasn't garbage? The only way I could see it is if they were selling trash to a dump, Oracle could probably find a way to fuck that up. Oracle go kill yourself.

Oh and fuck Google too. When the mob puts a hit out on you it's often not because you've been running your business too honestly.

Re:Honest question time

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm posting this as AC because I'm currently involved in the rollout of a big, bloated, expensive Oracle product at a major university.

They're a fucking shitshow through and through. No one knows what's going on. This thing is going to be delayed by at least a year or it's going to be rammed down our asses and be a catastrophe for 18 months or more. Billions will be lost in man-hours alone, and even in the best case scenario where it somehow magically works nothing will be gained. Instead, more staff will be required to support and coddle this beast.

I've intentionally avoided looking up how much we will be spending on this fucking thing or how it was approved because I know I won't like what I find out.

Re: Pot, meet kettle

[ArmoredDragon]

I think Oracle is probably just annoyed because after winning all of their big lawsuits against their own costumers, they lost what is arguably the mother of all of their lawsuits, and it wasn't one of their customers this time

Re:Pot, meet kettle

[ShanghaiBill]

The evil of Google is like a candle flickering in the darkness.
The evil of Oracle is like the midday sun.

Accountability?

[XSportSeeker]

Oracle is campaigning for accountability? Sure, I love accountability.
How about:

- Improper accounting practices on your cloud service business: http://venturebeat.com/2016/06...
- Breach of contract: http://www.pcworld.com/article...
- Putting stockholders' investments at risk: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
- Fraudulent practices/overcharging the Deparment of Justice: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr...
- Patent infringement: http://www.infoworld.com/artic...
- Project cost overrun and breach of contract again: http://wtnnews.com/articles/85...

If Oracle had any hint of accountability it would've closed doors a long time ago. What they want is money.

Re: Pot, meet kettle

[yuvcifjt]

You're kidding right?
Surely you can't be that ignorant of Google's power?!

Here's a quick search to answer your question.

Google literally have the power to change leadership of entire nations and sway voters, and even make or break an entire company!

Google products are 100% voluntary, if you don't want to use them, then don't...

Err, no they're not.
You're Google's product and slave whether you like it or not.
It's easy (for a technical person) to simply not use facebook and block their 2/3 domains, but it's almost impossible to do that with Google, considering GoogleAPIs, Captcha, Doubleclick, Analytics, GoogleAdServices, GoogleSyndication, GTM, Plus, etc, etc.

Re:All your attention are belong to us

[phantomfive]

They have exceptional software engineering standards

Their search is good. Their advertising platform (for advertisers) is alright. Their operations team is top-notch. A lot of the other stuff is half-done. Android is barely sufficient (and has a lot of messiness, too).