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Apple CEO Tim Cook on EU Apple Tax Case: 'Total Political Crap' (arstechnica.com)

Earlier this week, Apple was ordered to pay a record sum of 13 billion euros plus interest after the EU said Ireland illegally slashed the iPhone make's tax bill. At the time, Tim Cook found the accusations "baseless." In a new interview, he had more things to say:A war of words has erupted between Europe's competition chief and Apple CEO Tim Cook after Ireland was ordered to reclaim $14.5 billion in back taxes from the company. Cook, in an interview with the Irish Independent, labelled Brussels' competition chief Margrethe Vestager's decision as "total political crap." He claimed Ireland was being "picked on" and that he hoped to see the Irish government launch an appeal against the ruling. Vestager refuted that claim when quizzed by reporters on Thursday. "This is a decision based on the facts of the case. The figures that we used in our decision are the figures that we got from Apple themselves," she said. "There are very, very few figures in the public domain. More transparency would be a good thing, for example, a country by country reporting. If it was up to me, the non-confidential version of the decision would have been published yesterday, because that is another way of enabling everyone to see what we have decided and on what basis we have made this decision. Right now the ball is in the hands of Apple and Ireland."

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  1. Re:Oh yeah? Then what are you gonna do about it? by thaylin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The deal was illegal, it was not retroactive, since the deal could not legally exist. Sign into a contract that is not legal and see if the law allows it to be binding.

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  2. Re:Oh yeah? Then what are you gonna do about it? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Law of the land, buddy.

    More like "we have (retroactively) changed the terms of the deal. Pray we do not change it further... buddy". Which is why this is political crap.

    By all means, adjust the law such that Apple pays more going forward. But this is nothing but ex post facto laws, and those are utter bullshit.

    This is the EU saying to Ireland "Your law violates European law - fix it". This is correct. What is sketchy is the retrospective nature of the "and grab a few billion from Apple while you're fixing it". Ireland did close the double-Irish-with-a-dutch-sandwich loophole, but allows existing users of the scheme to carry on until 2020. So that is certainly favouring some businesses over others with different laws for some. This is clearly a violation of European competition law.

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  3. Re:Oh yeah? Then what are you gonna do about it? by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this 'no retroactive fines' work for me too when I cheat on taxes?

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  4. Re: So... *IRELAND* did something illegal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple is not being punished, they are being required to pay back taxes they avoided because of an agreement deemed non legal.

  5. No sympathy for Apple by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the EU saying to Ireland "Your law violates European law - fix it". This is correct. What is sketchy is the retrospective nature of the "and grab a few billion from Apple while you're fixing it"

    I disagree that it is sketchy at all. Apple is going through all kinds of contortions to avoid paying any taxes. This is in clear violation of the spirit of the law and apparently the EU believes it is in violation of the letter of the law as well. Apple enjoys the benefits of public services from the taxes paid but isn't willing to pay their fair share. I have ZERO sympathy for Apple here. They shouldn't be entitled to any tax breaks not available to individuals or small enterprises. Furthermore if what they did was illegal then there is no retrospective anything. It means that Apple rightfully owes money it hasn't paid.

  6. Law Constant: Had to know this was dodgy by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you cheat on your taxes, then yeah you'd be subject to fines for past tax evasion. But if you followed the letter of the tax law at the time, and some time later the government decided the law was wrong and changed it, then no you wouldn't be subject to retroactive fines.

    ...but that is not what happened. Eu law has remained the same. Ireland refused to follow that law and as a result Apple has lots of back taxes owing. I would have had a lot more sympathy for Apple if they had been paying a reasonable rate of tax and the EU had come along and said sorry it should have been 12% instead of 10%. However they were paying something like 0.05% (IIRC the Guardian). Sorry but when you are paying such an insanely tiny tax rate you have to know that you are doing something dodgy. Just because it took the EU some time to figure this out does not mean that you should get off scot free.