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Apple Hikes Order Volume For iPhone 7 Parts In Wake of Samsung Recall (macrumors.com)
An anonymous reader writes: In wake of Samsung's recall of the Galaxy Note 7, Apple has reportedly hiked orders for parts and components required for the production of the upcoming iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. Mac Rumors reports: "Apple shipped on average 30 million iPhone 6s units a month in the second half of 2015. The company originally predicted shipments of the iPhone 7 this year would reach only 60 percent of that number over the same period, but supply chain sources are today reporting that Apple has boosted its original prediction by 10 percent. The hike in order volumes suggests Apple is increasingly upbeat about demand for the new devices among existing iPhone owners seeking to upgrade, despite relatively subdued interest in the iPhone 7 models compared to the pre-launch buzz of previous years. Another potential factor in Apple's upward revision is Samsung's global recall of its Galaxy Note 7 smartphone last week, which followed numerous complaints that the device caught fire while charging. The news arguably couldn't have come at a worse time for Apple's biggest rival, which has pitched its Note 7 as a direct competitor to Apple's 5.5-inch iPhones."
I was actually going to order a note 7 to replace my 4 year old smartphone. When the news of the recall came, I just decided to save some money and settle for a Note 5. I think if people like Android, they like Android.. The lack of Note 7s isn't going to swing people to iOS.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Jumping on your opponents' mistakes is sure to pay off, and this will force the headphone jack issue into the forefront quickly. Not sure how much that will work and backfire, possibly simultaneously across markets.
you know that iphones actually have ever smaller share of market. just stick to numbers.
but you are right, samsung recall may well have no impact, since anyone not buying sumsung will buy some other android phone.
There are plenty of conversations on the reasons. My point is this makes it a much broader issue because they will sell more units up front. More exposure sooner.
People keep talking about these problems but I have yet to be affected by any of them.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
The number of extra iPhones sold because of Samsung shortages will be a tiny percentage of the total number of iPhones sold. It will in no way make it a "broader issue" - that would also imply there is even an issue, which the technorati will too discover to their dismay there is not.
They same fainting couch was fallen upon with great false tears back with the Lightning connector change, and absolutely nothing came of that. I fall to see how this will be ay different, in fact it's a far smaller change.
You may want to get out from under your rock and look at the number of people that use either Bluetooth audio gear, or just use earbuds that ship with the phone.
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You're somehow acting like I suggested this was a negative thing. Regardless of your opinion, the increased numbers (yes, it will increase numbers) will make more people talk about its effects. I don't know where you got that opinion as I was clear that it would just bring more light to it, even saying that some people think it is good, some think it is bad. I never expressed my own opinion for you to get so butt-hurt.
Almost nobody used the 30-pin connector for anything other than charging, because so-called universal docks were never compatible with whatever new device Apple shipped six months later. I doubt more than 1% of users used it for anything other than plugging in the cord that came with it to charge the device, if that, and even then, they used it for some minor ancillary use—usually not while walking around doing stuff.
That's not true for headphones. At least one out of three iPhone users use headphones of some kind on a regular basis, and the majority of them are wired headphones, so this affects at least an order of magnitude more users than the Lightning connector change, percentage-wise, and it affects primary uses of the device (phone calls, music) while carrying the device around with you, which means the impact on each of those users is much, much bigger.
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Hell, I played that game back in the early 00's. The Rio 600 didn't have a dedicated headphone jack. What it did have was a customized serial port for a playback remote, and that had the jack in it. The second anything happened to that remote - frayed cable, forgotten, whatever - you were toast. Never again with that noise, Apple lost a pretty faithful customer here.
I'll take a exploding phone over anything from a terrible company like apple
That logic is almost as tortuous as Apple's profit funneling.
Order Phones with Removable batteries. BLU, and several other manufacteres make phones with good batteries that are removable. If need be, order a battery not made of Lithium Colbalt. The Cobalt part is Cancerous, get a Lithium Iron battery instead.
did you notice that Lightning docks are far less common than the old-style docks that used to be everywhere?
But it didn't matter to users. The docks are not around as much as they used to be, but people use them less as wireless technologies became more prevalent... exactly the reason the headphone jack is also going away.
The sole benefit of removing the headphone jack is a slightly slimmer phone,
Technically there are benefits to having the headphone connector being wholly digital also, and it removes amplification hardware taking up space in the phone.
USB headphones have been tried before.
Because those are just another form of wired headphone, only less convenient. Apple is (seemingly) not moving to a different wired headphone standard.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Sorry I missed your neutrality on the issue, but I still can't see how it brings any more light on the issue... there have already been a billion articles on this, so I honestly do not see how it can possibly gain more exposure through a few more users of the phone. Even my wife, who does not care about technology or follow technology news at all, has mentioned it already... if she has heard about this there is literally no-one left on earth who is not aware.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Apple is (seemingly) not moving to a different wired headphone standard.
Apple almost never moves to any standard. Even when they do, they make sure they have a goofy variant.
Hearing about it and having people who forget to charge their headphones in real life are slightly different matters.
It's pretty obvious if they ship with no headphone jack it also means they ship with wireless earbuds. So why is it even a problem, much less the gigantic issue you seem to think it is?
For one, wireless *anything* is less reliable than its wired equivalent. In any sort of crowded environment, quality is going to go down as everyone's wireless headphones are competing with each other in limited radio spectrum. Bluetooth itself has abysmal performance in military towns and port cities, because something the military/coast guard is doing causes interference on those frequencies.
Two, removing the analog jack means removing the analog loophole. That is to say, if the iPhone doesn't have to support an analog audio plug, and everything is digital, expect everything to be DRM'd to hell and gone right away. There will be more vendor lock-in, more "pay again for every play" schemes, etc.
There are other objections; these are mine.
Apple outsells Samsung in the high end market. iPhone's out sell the Samsung Galaxy 5/6/7 series. But the cheap Androids outsell iPhone's by a large number. Just compare the correct market segments. If it was iPhone versus Windows Phone with the same numbers, Microsoft would have started a marketing campaign to convince developers to drop iPhone support, just like they did in the Windows era. Please let such a thing not happen again. Samsung+Google could become the new Wintel if they started to use the same business tactics as Microsoft did in the 90's and early 00's. I don't like Apple either, but I'm happy they are gaining a healthy market share which forced software makers to write their software for multiple platforms, which makes it more likely to support other systems like Linux and BSD.
For one, wireless *anything* is less reliable than its wired equivalent. In any sort of crowded environment, quality is going to go down as everyone's wireless headphones are competing with each other in limited radio spectrum. Bluetooth itself...
It's interesting you think Apple's wireless headphones will use Bluetooth, or that they have not considered the aspect of many people using the headphones at once.
That is to say, if the iPhone doesn't have to support an analog audio plug, and everything is digital, expect everything to be DRM'd to hell and gone right away.
Even more interesting you don't think there will be an analog adaptor that opens up the same hole for recording.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Now I have to buy an adaptor too? Yet another dongle to carry around, keep charged, lose or break... Yeah, I don't think so. When it comes time to "upgrade" my 6s, I'll be upgrading to a vendor whose product is convenient for me.
For the few people for whom the stock earbuds do not work, you just attach the adaptor to the pair of headphones you prefer and you are done. That's why I'm mystified the people think it's such a big deal, most people just use one listening device.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It's pretty obvious if they ship with no headphone jack it also means they ship with wireless earbuds.
No, it's not obvious at all. More likely they ship with earphones that plug into their proprietary lightning connector. And as always, the earphones that ship with a phone will be cheap crap, but the only replacement for a while will be to go Bluetooth, or pay double the Apple tax for lightning connector Beats headphones.
Apple Hikes Order Volume For iPhone 7 Parts ...
Okay it's way louder, but can't hear it 'cause no compatible headphones...
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
For one, wireless *anything* is less reliable than its wired equivalent.
Plenty of kids destroy the wires on headphones, sometimes costing parents hundreds of dollars over the years. Totally talking about other people, not my own kid *cough*. But regardless, having no wires can be more reliable in some ways.
It's not. Almost nobody cares about a headphone jack except for the kiddies that cant afford anything more than a $100 prepaid phone to begin with.
Untrue, my kids have iPhones (previous generation admittedly) and they get through headphones/earbuds like a rat through cardboard. You can currently get cheap earbuds from Poundland, but I wouldn't want to be buying an Apple pair every couple of weeks at GBP30+ a pop.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Yeah...good luck finding a flagship with a replaceable battery that isn't riddled with problems. We'll see what LG does with their V20 today, but after my experience with the G4, which left tens of thousands of users stranded thanks to bootloop issues and (in my case) absolutely hideous performance, I'm loathe to trust another LG.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
A company who stands behind its products and recalls an entire model over a 0.002% failure rate, or one that tells you you're holding it wrong when your hand shorts out the antenna or tells you you've mishandled the phone when your touchscreen controller fails?
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
I need to replace my wife's iPhone 4S, but it won't be with a 7. That loss of a headphone jack makes it unusable for use in a car that doesn't have BT.
When you sympathize with stupidity, you start thinking like an idiot.
How many parts are shared b/w Samsung and Apple in any 2 models of their phones or tablets? Other than, maybe, the capacitive screens (just in case the dimensions are identical)?
Did you just give 2 greenhouse gas producing companies more marks for corporate citizenship than Apple? No wonder even as an AC, you've aready been modded down!
If you had a 4s, you were lucky in that the OS used was supported until 8, if not 9. Depending on the storage, there are limits to the extent to which a phone could be upgraded. Granted, one could point to Android Marshmallow and point out how one could toss in a huge SD density and swap the primary and add-on memory definitions so that any phone could be upgradable, but if a phone doesn't allow SD cards for whatever reason (which is a good reason in and of itself to avoid it), there is a good reason it can't be upgraded beyond a certain point.
And as far as an iPhone goes, its storage fills up quickly. First of all, no SD slots, so you better have a good amount of storage to begin w/. I also use WhatsApp, which also fills up the phone. And if one has kids, then they tend to download all sorts of games & apps, which are much more popular for iOS than for Android or Windows 10 Mobile.
So I don't have any songs on my iPhone, and don't plan to. I have an iPod Touch - 2nd gen, which is stuck at iOS4.2, and for some music videos that won't run on it, I have an iPad mini, which is current on 9.5. Between these 2, I have all my songs. But my best music device is my Verizon Ellipsis 10, which does have an SD slot where I have all my music videos. Only reason my iOS devices are better - my car's music system has an iPod mode which allows them to be connected to the USB and not require the Bluetooth connection that I need for the phone.
So headphone jacks or not is a non issue for me
If you need something for just music - and I'm assuming here that your car is married to Apple's ecosystem - why not just get the latest iPod Touch or iPad mini w/ whatever storage you'd need? Dump all your music in that, and use the iPhone just for phone, texting, and a few apps like FaceTime