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Dell To Cut At Least 2,000 Jobs After EMC Acquisition (bloomberg.com)

As Dell processes the acquisition of EMC Corp, its largest buyout ever, it plans to cut about 2,000 to 3,000 jobs, people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg. The layoffs are expected to happen later this year, and regions such as the United States will be impacted the most by it. From the report:The reductions are planned for later this year and will be mostly in the U.S. and in areas such as supply chain and general and administrative positions, as well as some marketing jobs, said the people. Dell is looking for cost savings of about $1.7 billion in the first 18 months after the transaction but is largely focused on using the deal to boost sales by several times that amount, the people added. The new company has 140,000 employees. "As is common with deals of this size, there will be some overlaps we will need to manage and where some employee reduction will occur. We will do everything possible to minimize the impact on jobs," Dave Farmer, spokesman for Dell, wrote in an e-mail. "We expect revenue gains will outweigh any cost savings, and revenue growth drives employment growth."

38 comments

  1. MBA logic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fire more people to make more profit to create more jobs!

    Now where's my big fat MBA bonus?

    1. Re:MBA logic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're downsizing our way to GREATNESS!

    2. Re:MBA logic by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      It's unfortunate, but with a big merger like this you will end up with a lot of back office redundancy. You don't need two HR departments, for example. You don't need two purchasing departments, two ARs, two APs, two IT departments, ect. You combine and cut until the new, larger org, has sufficient support to run as one entity.

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  2. Actually, quite light by ADRA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For an acquisition this big, I would've expect ten's of thousands gone, so keeping it so low is actually surprising. I can only posit this being round one.

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    1. Re:Actually, quite light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So many people have already quit it probably shaved 1000's of the list.

    2. Re:Actually, quite light by KingBozo · · Score: 1

      Bingo we have a winner, mod this up.

    3. Re:Actually, quite light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For an acquisition this big, I would've expect ten's of thousands gone, so keeping it so low is actually surprising. I can only posit this being round one.

      They have to keep the non-whites and the SJWs, otherwise the ACLU will have some kneecap-smashin' to do.

  3. Dude, you got Dell'ed by OffTheLip · · Score: 1

    Seriously, who is surprised by this including the employees.

    1. Re:Dude, you got Dell'ed by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      The employees in those departments shouldn't be surprised at all. They're mostly back office which does in fact become redundant when you have a merger. They don't need two HR departments or two accounting departments.

      The people losing their jobs probably knew for months that they were going to be let go.

  4. Is this even a story? by jandrese · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It sounds like a completely sensible cutting of redundant HR/administrative/marketing/etc... people. It doesn't sound like Dell is cutting R&D or engineering or production or even much in sales. If I'm supposed to be mad at Dell for this it's not working.

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    1. Re: Is this even a story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There isn't any engineering of R&D to cut. They are just assemblers. I was building better machines in junior high.

    2. Re:Is this even a story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And so begins the water carriers and cool-aid drinkers from the cult of Hell. A few of my former cohorts in Round Rock just might benefit from the attitude adjustment such a culling can provide!

    3. Re:Is this even a story? by slack_justyb · · Score: 1

      If anything I think it's the timing of the layoffs. Typically going into October, you should delay massive layoffs till January as you start running into the holidays. If you just have to by Q4, then at least offer some job assistance, letters of recommendation, etc to help them place as quickly as possible. Still though its hard to be mad at how small a cut this is for a merger with companies of this size.

    4. Re:Is this even a story? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      There are 2000-3000 HR/admin/marketing people? Why does Dell need to make this acquisition if they can't digest the existing employees? Dell should be deported to Cuba!

    5. Re:Is this even a story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If anything I think it's the timing of the layoffs. Typically going into October, you should delay massive layoffs till January as you start running into the holidays.

      You mean fire people after they did all the Christmas shopping?

    6. Re:Is this even a story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Between Dell and EMC, they have applied for OVER 5,000 H1Bs. Now that the two businesses have merged you can bet your first born that the great culling of US tech workers will begin in earnest at the end of this year or the start of 2017. The "layoffs" we are reading about now is nothing more than a tactic to make future "layoff" news (the real news) NOT cause a great controversy because it was already announced.

    7. Re:Is this even a story? by Deagol · · Score: 1

      In light of the buyout and subsequent announced RIF, anyone who went overboard on holiday shopping or vacations this year would be a certified dumb-ass.

      Grow that emergency fund while you're solidly employed, folks. You can't bank 3-to-6 months of expenses in a couple of months.

  5. An EMC spokesperson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...preferred to describe said cuts as deduplication.

    1. Re:An EMC spokesperson... by crow · · Score: 2

      As an EMC employee (make that Dell Technologies now), I find that absolutely hilarious!

      I can report that there is absolutely no worry about jobs in my engineering division. Dell wouldn't have bought us if they wanted to scale back the product I'm working on.

    2. Re:An EMC spokesperson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an EMC employee (make that Dell Technologies now), I find that absolutely hilarious!

      I can report that there is absolutely no worry about jobs in my engineering division. Dell wouldn't have bought us if they wanted to scale back the product I'm working on.

      Worse - they want to turn it into a Dell product.

    3. Re:An EMC spokesperson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an EMC employee (make that Dell Technologies now), I find that absolutely hilarious!

      I can report that there is absolutely no worry about jobs in my engineering division. Dell wouldn't have bought us if they wanted to scale back the product I'm working on.

      Ha! Looking through the lens of reason....that'll stop the moment you become a Delldo.....you'll see.....and learn. I suggest working on your managing up and circle jerking skills!

    4. Re:An EMC spokesperson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dell wouldn't have bought us if they wanted to scale back the product I'm working on.

      After seeing what they did to Alienware, I wouldn't be too sure.

    5. Re: An EMC spokesperson... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They must be working on (yet) another silo of storage, because their entire current portfolio is hammered dogshit. Except maybe Compellent.

  6. Fire them ALL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fire them ALL and watch our profits skyrocket!!

    1. Re:Fire them ALL! by tripleevenfall · · Score: 2

      It is entirely possible that after a huge company takes over another huge company, there might be some duplicated job functions.

      3,000 employees out of 140,000 worldwide, a 2% reduction, is not really a crazy number for a company that was just bought out.

    2. Re: Fire them ALL! by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      I've personally had a job where after a while I wasn't having much to do. I even thought at the time that if I were them, I'd lay me off. And then a bad quarter came, and they shed about 10% of the workforce, and I wasn't at all surprised with what happened next.

      And to be honest, I saw a lot of people let go that we probably didn't really need. The purpose of a business isn't too create work and give people paychecks, so I honestly have no complaints about layoffs when I hear about them.

      Besides, getting laid off turned out to be highly profitable since I got a decent severance and within two months got hired at a new place with 60% better pay, better benefits, and my own office instead of a cubicle. So I'm actually rather glad that I was laid off, because I wouldn't have looked for greener pastures otherwise, and I wouldn't have gotten two months of paid vacation.

    3. Re:Fire them ALL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found the dumbass MBA!

  7. Obviously not the point, but higher paying jobs by raymorris · · Score: 0

    Obviously the purpose of the acquisition is not "create more jobs". The *effect* is fewer, higher-paying jobs in the combined company, which should in turn encourage either more or higher-paying jobs outside the company.

    Consider you have 10 people assembling computers, and the other tasks that actually produce the product.
    The parts are worth $10 million, the assembled computers are worth $12 million.
    Therefore, the work done by these people is worth $2 million. The "line worker" value is $2 million, that part doesn't change.

    Now consider if you have 2 HR people, 2 IT people, and 2 manager supporting the line workers. They have to get paid out of the $2 million value produced. So a total of 16 people get paid from $2 million. That's $125K each, on average.

    BY combining companies and getting rid of some of the duplicate HR people, IT people, and managers, we have this scenario:

    Still 10 line workers, still producing $2 million of value.
    Now 1 HR person, 1 IT person, and 1 manager. A total of 13 people paid from the $2 million of value. That's $154K each, on average.

    So reducing the duplicated workers means that salaries of the remaining workers can increase by $29K each. The company can have fewer, higher paid employees.

    These employees each have $29K more to spend (a total of $377K). Maybe spend it on getting their house painted, their car fixed up, and going to a concert. That finances more jobs for house painters, auto body, and concert techs.

    So net result is that their is money available for jobs within the company to get higher salaries, and some jobs move to other companies.

    1. Re:Obviously not the point, but higher paying jobs by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Except that's not how it will work. All of the people you stated will be let go, certainly will. The line workers may get a little more money, but the CEO and such will get most of it. Then new line workers will be hired for half of what the current ones are paid, with less benefits. Then anyone close to retirement age will be offered early retirement and replaced with more lower wage people. Any one else left will be given some sort of payoff to leave, or outright fired and in the end the line will be staffed with people who make a third to half of what the original workers did. The C level folks will get big bonuses. Then the customers will realize the quality of their products has gotten worse and profits will slide a little. And a new CEO will be brought in to cut costs and they will go on a steady decline and eventually offshore to China. Sadly, this seems to be the way of business these days.

    2. Re:Obviously not the point, but higher paying jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The *effect* is fewer, higher-paying jobs in the combined company, which should in turn encourage either more or higher-paying jobs outside the company.

      And you can row a boat upstream using a 3-foot length of rope as an oar.

    3. Re:Obviously not the point, but higher paying jobs by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      So net result is that their is money available for jobs within the company to get higher salaries, and some jobs move to other companies.

      Whoa! Dude, where exactly did this happen anywhere.

      You do not understand how it works.

      The most wealthy people need more money, because if they don't get more money, they won't be able to create jobs.

      The poorer people need less money, because giving them more money just makes them lazy. It sounds like a contradiction, but you can look that up in the Bible.

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  8. M & A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This happened to me at Medtronic; the company bought another company and had to absorb their workforce. We were over staffed so they culled the payroll by laying me off for 'poor performance'.

  9. 0.06% by raymorris · · Score: 1

    That's fun to talk about, and then there are the actual numbers.

    Michael Dell IS well paid as the CEO of Dell. Almost in million salary and in a *good* year almost twelve million in stocks and other compensation. When the company does well, he's paid almost $13 million.

    Meanwhile, the total payroll cost for Dell is around $2.1 BILLION. 0.06% of that goes to the CEO, 99.94% goes to the other workers.

  10. Revenue growth drives employment growth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Historically, revenue growth gets pocketed by the management, and layoffs continue any time the numbers look bad.

    They're not even trying to lie anymore....

  11. I'm doing my best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just closed a 1.8MM deal right out from under those smug EMC ass fuckers. HPE can afford to buy them out of business. With the interest DELL is paying, that will take about 6 months.

    Sayonara, you dumb saps.

  12. This is just the beginning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The full picture will be known 1-2 years from now. Moving all the accounting, manufacturing, distribution, etc will take time. Make no mistake about it. Cuts are coming for many departments as the need for higher profits becomes more important.

  13. Dell's gotta make room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all the H1-B visa workers they'll hire.