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Linking Without Permission Violates Copyright, Rules EU Court (reuters.com)

BarbaraHudson writes: Reuters is reporting that Playboy has won a lawsuit against a Netherlands news site for linking to photos without permission: "'It is undisputed that GS Media (which owns GreenStijl) provided the hyperlinks to the files containing the photos for profit and that Sanoma had not authorized the publication of those photos on the internet,' the Luxembourg-based Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ) said in a statement. 'When hyperlinks are posted for profit, it may be expected that the person who posted such a link should carry out the checks necessary to ensure that the work concerned is not illegally published.' The European Commission, the EU executive, is set next week to propose tougher rules on publishing copyrighted content, including a new exclusive right for news publishers to ask search engines like Google to pay to show snippets of their articles." Neil_Brown adds: The Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled today on whether posting, on a website, hyperlinks to copyright infringing works constitutes a "communication to the public" for the purposes of EU copyright law, an act which requires permission of the rights holder or other authorizing basis. The court held that, if the links are provided "without the pursuit of financial gain by a person who did not know or could not reasonably have known the illegal nature of the publication of those works on that other website," the act of posting the hyperlink is not an infringement of copyright. However, if the links are providing in the pursuit of financial gain, the poster of such links is deemed to have known that they were infringing copyright, unless they can prove otherwise. The court has stated that those sites operating "for profit" are expected to have carried out the (impossible?) "necessary checks to ensure that the work concerned is not illegally published on the website to which those hyperlinks lead." The court does not clarify what is meant by "the pursuit of financial gain." If previous decisions are followed, any sites which host ads (Papasavvas), or perhaps even just accrue value to a brand (if the Advocate General's opinion in McFadden is followed), might be treated as operating for financial gain.

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  1. Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Farewell. We hardly knew ye.

    1. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by epyT-R · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Linking to and embedding data from other documents is the whole reason it's described as a web in the first place.

    2. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're blurring the line between content and pointers to said content.

      COPYright applies to copying the content. Linking to it is free speech.

    3. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by ragahast · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's so bad about that?

      Ever use a search engine (in particular image searching)?

      A string like "https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/JmVq0i-tBJiPxGt5XOrDYDO6lyA=/0x16:1300x883/1280x854/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/48728355/playboy_march_16_cover_wide.0.0.jpg" is just a *fact* and should not be copyrightable. It simply *is not* the information that has been copyrighted.

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    4. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Insightful
      That page you linked to with the photo is also copyrighted though, just by existing. What's to stop the owner of the target link from suing over that copyright? This ruling basically says that any for profit entity would have to not only get permission from owner of the linked site, but also validate that that entity has the rights to publish the content you are linking to them for. It's insane.

      However, if the links are providing in the pursuit of financial gain, the poster of such links is deemed to have known that they were infringing copyright, unless they can prove otherwise. The court has stated that those sites operating "for profit" are expected to have carried out the (impossible?) "necessary checks to ensure that the work concerned is not illegally published on the website to which those hyperlinks lead."

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    5. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wasn't clear, then. I was talking about linking to photos with a link that would embed the photo directly in the displayed page. The search results you describe would not do that, they'd just present a link that you have to follow.

      An <img> tag is just a link you have to follow, too. The user agent may or may not do that for you. It is, after all, the agent acting on behalf of the user.

      If the search engine presented images directly in the search results page (in anything other than fair-use thumbnail form), then that would be copyright infringement.

      No, it wouldn't. And that is precisely why this EU ruling is pants-on-head retarded. And everyone involved with and/or favoring this decision this is also pants-on-head retarded. Sue me for libel, bitches. I dare you.

      Links are not the original work. Period. Facts trump wishes. Deal with it.

    6. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wasn't this whole "deep linking" battle fought once before?

    7. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The claim holds true. Neither the EU itself nor its organs such as the Human Rights commission, nor many of its member states like my own home country, treat free speech in the same way as the US do. Proposals to make criticism of ("insulting") religion punishable have been floated in Brussels. They haven't passed, but the fact that these proposals have even been raised and considered instead of the submitters being ran out of town on a rail in tar and feathers is telling. My own country still had laws against blasphemy and lese majeste; they are hardly ever enforced or even invoked, but they are there. Free speech in my country boils down to there being no censorship prior to publication. Post publication they can still prosecute you, and there's a whole bunch of stuff you're not allowed to say according to the law.

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    8. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep. The idea of linking is the very core of the concept of Hypertext. It's stupidly absurd. Clueless judges pontificating on technological matters will lead us to ruin.

    9. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is the .jpg top level domain the ultimate url shortener for images?

  2. And search engines by phorm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    are now completely f****'ed....

  3. Re:Well, I thought we had settled this by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "You're linking to a party that is legally hosting the content, how is that infringement?"

    It isn't. It's no different than saying "go to the library to read this book" (although the action of going to the library becomes more automatic, since it's done for the user by the browser). The "linker" isn't involved in either delivering or receiving the content, and they're not a party to any copying. It's entirely up to the content provider if they want to deliver content which is linked from off-site.

    This is just a case of a content provider being lazy by not going through the work of denying content linked from off-site, and trying to push their responsibility onto someone else.

    The decision is a step towards further Balkanization of the web, which is based on hyperlinks.

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  4. Re:Well, I thought we had settled this by Bryan+Ischo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't see how this burden to search companies is a reason to weaken the rights of copyright holders.

    Image thumbnails in search results would probably be covered under fair use no?

    Frankly I'm surprised that copyright wasn't already enforced this way. Documents viewed on the world wide web are these ethereal things that are composed on the fly by client browser software as instructed by web server software. If the web server software instructs the client software to present a document which mixes non-copyright-infringing and copyright-infringing content, it seems eminently reasonable to me that this would be copyright infringement.

    What if I distributed a bunch of mini printing presses that, when you pressed a button, produced a perfect copy of this year's best selling novel? Sure, I didn't actually distribute the novel, but I enabled a mechanism whereby the user, when using my device as intended, would end up with a copyright infringing document.

    I think of the web browser in the same way. The servers tell it what to display. Therefore, if they tell it to display something that violates copyright, then the server has violated copyright.

    Here's how I would make the rules if I could:

    - Publishing web pages with links to copyrighted content where those links cause the display of the copyrighted content inline in the linking document, would violate copyright
    - Publishing web pages with links to copyrighted content where those links do not cause the display of the copyrighted content inline in the linking document, but instead merely lead the user to the content, would not violate copyright

    Analog: you can publish instructions on where to go to listen to a copyrighted song. You cannot publish a document which plays the copyrighted song to the user.

  5. Re:It's not the lack of permission that matters by Rockoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem was that they knowingly linked to copyright infringing material

    No they didnt. They linked to a file hosting service that had links to the copyrighted material.

    You are missing the part where 3 different parties are involved.

    (A) The owners of the copyright
    (B) The site hosting and linking to the content
    (C) The site linking to (B)'s web page that links to and hosts the content.

    This can be translated into: "A law was broken, and god damn it someone.. anyone... must pay!"

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  6. Unity on Slashdot? by Trogre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm genuinely curious:

    Is there anyone here who believes that this is not a completely stupid ruling?

    If so, please explain to the rest of us how pointing to something that is already publicly available (ie published on a web page) could possibly be a violation of copyright.

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  7. The EU is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    It is official; Surveys now confirm: The EU is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered EU when Apple CEO Tim Cook described the power grabbing supranational's investigation of its Irish tax affairs as "political bullshit". Coming close on the heels of the EU centralized tax identification number, their attempt to subsume the taxation rights of sovereign states is now clear for all to see. The EU is collapsing in complete disarray, as dead in the water as one of Merkel's drowned migrants.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict the EU's future. The writing is on the wall: The EU faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for the EU because the EU is dying. Things are looking very bad for the EU. As many of us are aware, the currency is becoming worthless. Negative interest rates are a tax on capital.

    Let's stick to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Germany has admitted over 1 million migrants, 80% are unfit for anything other than menial work. Integration, housing and welfare costs will out-weigh their net economic contribution. Sex attacks committed by migrants have reached pandemic proportions across the entire continent. Tourism numbers in France and Germany have dwindled due to terrorism. Greece is bankrupt and unable to escape the crushing debt burden imposed by its membership in the eurozone. Italian banks are insolvent. Deutsche Bank, one of Germany's largest banks has an estimated derivatives exposure equal to global GDP. The pension liabilities of the various EU institutions total over â63 billion.

    All major surveys show that the EU has lost the confidence of Europe's peoples. The EU is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If the EU is to survive at all it will be as a third world hellhole. The EU continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save the EU from its fate at this point in time. For all practical purposes, the EU is dead.

    Fact: The EU is dying

  8. Copy rights by gatfirls · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would seem copy has more rights than people.