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Linking Without Permission Violates Copyright, Rules EU Court (reuters.com)

BarbaraHudson writes: Reuters is reporting that Playboy has won a lawsuit against a Netherlands news site for linking to photos without permission: "'It is undisputed that GS Media (which owns GreenStijl) provided the hyperlinks to the files containing the photos for profit and that Sanoma had not authorized the publication of those photos on the internet,' the Luxembourg-based Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ) said in a statement. 'When hyperlinks are posted for profit, it may be expected that the person who posted such a link should carry out the checks necessary to ensure that the work concerned is not illegally published.' The European Commission, the EU executive, is set next week to propose tougher rules on publishing copyrighted content, including a new exclusive right for news publishers to ask search engines like Google to pay to show snippets of their articles." Neil_Brown adds: The Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled today on whether posting, on a website, hyperlinks to copyright infringing works constitutes a "communication to the public" for the purposes of EU copyright law, an act which requires permission of the rights holder or other authorizing basis. The court held that, if the links are provided "without the pursuit of financial gain by a person who did not know or could not reasonably have known the illegal nature of the publication of those works on that other website," the act of posting the hyperlink is not an infringement of copyright. However, if the links are providing in the pursuit of financial gain, the poster of such links is deemed to have known that they were infringing copyright, unless they can prove otherwise. The court has stated that those sites operating "for profit" are expected to have carried out the (impossible?) "necessary checks to ensure that the work concerned is not illegally published on the website to which those hyperlinks lead." The court does not clarify what is meant by "the pursuit of financial gain." If previous decisions are followed, any sites which host ads (Papasavvas), or perhaps even just accrue value to a brand (if the Advocate General's opinion in McFadden is followed), might be treated as operating for financial gain.

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  1. Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Farewell. We hardly knew ye.

    1. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by epyT-R · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Linking to and embedding data from other documents is the whole reason it's described as a web in the first place.

    2. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're blurring the line between content and pointers to said content.

      COPYright applies to copying the content. Linking to it is free speech.

    3. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by ragahast · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's so bad about that?

      Ever use a search engine (in particular image searching)?

      A string like "https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/JmVq0i-tBJiPxGt5XOrDYDO6lyA=/0x16:1300x883/1280x854/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/48728355/playboy_march_16_cover_wide.0.0.jpg" is just a *fact* and should not be copyrightable. It simply *is not* the information that has been copyrighted.

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    4. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Insightful
      That page you linked to with the photo is also copyrighted though, just by existing. What's to stop the owner of the target link from suing over that copyright? This ruling basically says that any for profit entity would have to not only get permission from owner of the linked site, but also validate that that entity has the rights to publish the content you are linking to them for. It's insane.

      However, if the links are providing in the pursuit of financial gain, the poster of such links is deemed to have known that they were infringing copyright, unless they can prove otherwise. The court has stated that those sites operating "for profit" are expected to have carried out the (impossible?) "necessary checks to ensure that the work concerned is not illegally published on the website to which those hyperlinks lead."

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    5. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wasn't clear, then. I was talking about linking to photos with a link that would embed the photo directly in the displayed page. The search results you describe would not do that, they'd just present a link that you have to follow.

      An <img> tag is just a link you have to follow, too. The user agent may or may not do that for you. It is, after all, the agent acting on behalf of the user.

      If the search engine presented images directly in the search results page (in anything other than fair-use thumbnail form), then that would be copyright infringement.

      No, it wouldn't. And that is precisely why this EU ruling is pants-on-head retarded. And everyone involved with and/or favoring this decision this is also pants-on-head retarded. Sue me for libel, bitches. I dare you.

      Links are not the original work. Period. Facts trump wishes. Deal with it.

    6. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wasn't this whole "deep linking" battle fought once before?

    7. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by bigfinger76 · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's a world of difference in having "href=http://blahblahb.jpg" and "img src=http://labhaldfad.jpg".

      For starters, they appear to be completely different images.

    8. Re:Goodbye, World Wide Web. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The claim holds true. Neither the EU itself nor its organs such as the Human Rights commission, nor many of its member states like my own home country, treat free speech in the same way as the US do. Proposals to make criticism of ("insulting") religion punishable have been floated in Brussels. They haven't passed, but the fact that these proposals have even been raised and considered instead of the submitters being ran out of town on a rail in tar and feathers is telling. My own country still had laws against blasphemy and lese majeste; they are hardly ever enforced or even invoked, but they are there. Free speech in my country boils down to there being no censorship prior to publication. Post publication they can still prosecute you, and there's a whole bunch of stuff you're not allowed to say according to the law.

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  2. wait, i am sure i am missing something here.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ok, so one party puts the pictures onto a public http server, then claims they did not want those pictures publicly available--- and the courts accepted this logic?

    there are other ways besides putting them on a public http server, for those images to be shared with purchasing clients and other select audiences.

    so, linking to files on a public http server is copyright infringement, if the copyright holder made them available, but is really an idiot and did not mean to?

    because that is what i am taking away from this.

  3. Re:Well, I thought we had settled this by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "You're linking to a party that is legally hosting the content, how is that infringement?"

    It isn't. It's no different than saying "go to the library to read this book" (although the action of going to the library becomes more automatic, since it's done for the user by the browser). The "linker" isn't involved in either delivering or receiving the content, and they're not a party to any copying. It's entirely up to the content provider if they want to deliver content which is linked from off-site.

    This is just a case of a content provider being lazy by not going through the work of denying content linked from off-site, and trying to push their responsibility onto someone else.

    The decision is a step towards further Balkanization of the web, which is based on hyperlinks.

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  4. Re:Well, I thought we had settled this by msauve · · Score: 4, Informative

    "rights of copyright holders."

    Uh, privileges. Copy"right" is not a natural right (like the right to self-defense), but a privilege granted by society to encourage creation of new works which benefit society. It's a very recent concept, going only back to the 17th/18th centuries.

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  5. Unity on Slashdot? by Trogre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm genuinely curious:

    Is there anyone here who believes that this is not a completely stupid ruling?

    If so, please explain to the rest of us how pointing to something that is already publicly available (ie published on a web page) could possibly be a violation of copyright.

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  6. Copy rights by gatfirls · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would seem copy has more rights than people.

  7. RTFA - photos were illegally posted by Zoxed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The comments I read seemed to have missed the point that the link was to illegally posted, pre-publication photos. Not just any old link. Just sayin, puts a different angle on the story, although a little less clickbaity!