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University of California's Outsourcing Is Wrong, Says US Lawmaker (computerworld.com)

Earlier this week, University of California hired India-based IT company HCL to outsource some of its work offshore. As part of the announcement, it announced that it was laying off 17 percent of UCSF's total IT staff. The U.S. lawmaker, Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif) and the IEEE-USA find the outsourcing job "wrong." dcblogs writes: A decision by the University of California to lay off IT employees and send their jobs overseas is under fire from U.S. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif) and the IEEE-USA. "How are they [the university] going to tell students to go into STEM fields when they are doing as much as they can to do a number on the engineers in their employment?" said U.S. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif). Peter Eckstein, the president of the IEEE-USA, said what the university is doing "is just one more sad example of corporations, a major university system in this case, importing non-Americans to eliminate American IT jobs." The university recently informed about 80 IT workers at its San Francisco campus, including contract employees and vendor contractors, that it hired India-based HCL, under a $50 million contract, to manage infrastructure and networking-related services. The affected employees will leave their jobs in February, after they train their contractor replacements.

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  1. "after they train their contractor replacements" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No amount of money could make me train a replacement. If everyone thought the same way, we wouldn't have this problem.

  2. Unions are needed! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unions are needed!

  3. Re:Was logging in to post exactly this by taustin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Too many people forget that interviews are a two way process. The company determines if you meet their needs, and you determine if they meet yours.

    The moment the prospective employee forgets that second part, they screwed.

  4. Re:Was logging in to post exactly this by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you were a young person making $60k with a family you might not be so quick to walk away from money while you search for another job. Not everyone is in the same circumstances where they can pick and choose.

  5. Re:Take a long walk off a short pier by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you kidding?

    And give up the opportunity to teach people how to format DVD's on the unix main frame by using:

    cd / /usr/bin/rm -rf *

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  6. Re:What's the price of your integrity? by SQLGuru · · Score: 5, Informative

    The point was that if you're making $60k and then given the choice of train your replacement and continue to draw another month's worth of $60k plus some severance package to keep you on your feet for a few weeks so you can look for a job.........or walk and receive $0. It isn't that the fictional person couldn't live on $60k.....it's that the safety net only exists if you agree to train your replacement.

  7. Uhhhhh ... by molarmass192 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If H1Bs are for jobs no qualified American can fill, and HCL has a whole slew of H1Bs. Laying off American's actually working in those jobs to replace them with H1Bs from HCL should prove something no? The H1B program likely needs to be scrapped altogether. Granted there are some legitimate H1B holders, but it's obvious it's being abused. Anyhow, the bar for H1Bs is too low and vague. EB visas, which require extensive documentation supporting the claimed skill level, should be the go to for skilled immigration. If UCSF wants to outsource, then they can deal with staff physically located in India and all the logistical challenges that entails.

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  8. I see the problem. . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    . . .they haven't outsourced the college administrators first. Given the massive administrative overhead of most colleges nowadays, that would save some serious coin. . .

  9. Re:What's the price of your integrity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is the third choice. Take the pay, and botch the training. Be an incredibly bad "teacher". Don't correct even the most basic mistakes. Be like a politician, don't answer any question straight. Be rude and belittle them for asking "stupid" questions. You were hired to do some kind of work, not to teach. They can't really expect you to be able to do a good teaching job.