Slashdot Mirror


Ubuntu-Based Elementary OS 0.4 'Loki' Achieves Stable Release (elementary.io)

"Today, Elementary 0.4 (code-named 'Loki'), achieves stable status," BetaNews reported Friday, applauding the "clean and functional" app tiles in its software center. Elementary OS (stylized as elementary OS) isn't the most popular Linux distro, and it certainly isn't the best. However, this Ubuntu-based operating system is focusing on something that some competitors do not -- user interface, which ultimately contributes to the overall user experience. It is because of this that Elementary is so important to the Linux community -- it matters.
Developers focused on internationalization for this release, part of an effort to "grow the market" for open-souce software, according to the elementary blog, which proudly points out that 73% of the 1.2 million downloads for their "design-oriented" OS came from closed-source operating systems.

9 of 72 comments (clear)

  1. Taste is subjective by Kjella · · Score: 2

    Would someone please shoot all the UI designers who think they have the one answer to rule them all. How hard is it to abstract away the task bar/start menu/system tray/hot corners/file dialog and create a configurable system that'll look like Gnome or KDE or Windows or Mac or any combination you want? Haven't we more or less numbered all the variations now and can just stuff it in a config file, instead of reinventing the wheel over and over?

    --
    Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    1. Re:Taste is subjective by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Would someone please shoot all the UI designers who think they have the one answer to rule them all.

      This! As well, throw in the people who say that there are too many distros, and that the cure is........

      Another distro.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  2. Re:Buy it? by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 3

    You can put in $0 and download it for free.

    --
    Eat the rich.
  3. Honest opinion by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have been using elementary OS for a few months now, and I like it. I've put it on my development laptop, my media centers and a few very underpowered machines we have around. One of my kids was overjoyed to be able to play Minecraft on their older laptop, which was too slow on Mint. Previously I used Linux Mint but found it a little more glitchy then elementary and quite a bit more resource heavy. The only distro I have found to be similarly light was Lubuntu but the interface in elementary is more modern; and I am most definitely NOT a mac fan. I hate files and replaced it with nemo, but otherwise the menu is simple and to the point and the dock does what it is supposed to do. For everything else, it is basically Ubuntu so you get the huge software repository.

    --
    Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
    1. Re:Honest opinion by ArtemaOne · · Score: 2

      I'm pretty sure Elementary is what I put on my 2006 Mac Mini (that I purchased on eBay last year). I agree, it is nice and runs well on antiquated hardware. I'm looking forward to updating to the latest version when I get back to the states. This looks nice.

  4. Re:Buy it? by allo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dark Patterns. And not even the cheapest option selected by default.

  5. Elementary is right... by DMFNR · · Score: 4, Informative

    I understand the project is young and has a long way to go, but elementary OS feels more like someone's high school project than the innovative, streamlined environment it's being sold as. I would be massively disappointed if I paid any sort of money for the software equivalent of Duplo Blocks they are providing. I tried a pretty recent development release and I came across so many little things that just screamed out "amateur hour". Maybe this was on account of it being a testing release and everything has been fixed and cleaned up in the past two weeks, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

    First thing that bugged me was in the Pantheon Greeter was how there were big bold placeholder pictures next to each username, but in order to select one you have to click directly on the text of the name. Right off the bat I'm already frustrated because on my first use I have to make three separate clicks to actually enter a password. There's no reason for it, each username and picture had a whole segment of the screen, for something that's sold as being "simple" how come the first thing I am drawn to click on isn't even an active component? It's a small qualm to have, but again, the focus here is on the UI and I already feel like the coding is simply lazy.

    Once I get in to the desktop I see this dorky rip off of the OSX launcher. Now I've used various Unixes for a long time, I don't necessarily expect beauty, a functional Motif app is better than a broken QT program any day of the week, but if you're going to rip something off, especially something as snazzy as the OSX dock, at least get some cool looking icons or something. Otherwise to anyone using it its going to feel like they got the toy version. It's Christmas 1994 all over again and I got the Megazord that doesn't break down in to separate pieces, the cheap one. Most of the elementary OS specific programs felt this way, it always felt like things were missing. Midori for a default browser? Come on! This is an OS that's pretty much designed for people who don't do much with their computers, and the one thing everyone of those people is actually going to want and need, a full featured browser isn't even there by default. I read an explanation that Midori is used being Firefox and Chromium don't use the native toolkit and elementary is all about "fit and finish". And I agree, if what they mean by that is "poor fit and finish". Even trying to bring up a terminal was a pain, it took my eyes quite a bit to see the free floating "Applications" text in the upper left corner. It doesn't even look like a launcher or something you can click on, I don't know what I thought, but it took me a few seconds to figure out, "Oh, I have to click that!".

    A lot of the desktop components are written in Vala, which isn't a language I really care for, but it seems to work. One thing it doesn't have is any sort of community around it at all. It looks like they have a chinsy little IDE you can use, and I'm sure most of the other common text editors program have syntax highlighting options for it is well. One thing I will give elementary OS credit for in the Pantheon desktop codebase is super simple, it's very easy to set up the very minimal development environment. It's something a novice hobbyist programmer could set up and actually have a shot at hunting down a bug or adding a feature. I only looked at a few files, but they seemed to be written in a clean style and well commented. The online documentation itself seemed rather poor an incomplete, and the Launchpad development tracker page was decidedly unprofessional. In my quick run through I noticed a lot of commits had cryptic and silly reasons ("fixed crap", "fixed some more crap", etc, stuff like that). Doesn't inspire much confidence for something that is trying to be "paid" software.

    The one place I will defend elementary OS is their choice to ask for payment by default. It seems there's a contingent of the Linux community that doesn't understand what "Free Software" actually means a

  6. Re:Buy it? by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 2

    they're just greedy as fuck.

    Oh no, they would actually like to get paid a small amount for their work? The horror!

    --
    Eat the rich.
  7. Re:Devs screwed the pooch by guilting users to pay by uncle+slacky · · Score: 2

    Here you go (archive version as the text has been changed on their blog):
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150211134734/http://blog.elementaryos.org/post/110645528530/payments

    Note where it says "We want users to understand that theyâ(TM)re pretty much cheating the system when they choose not to pay for software."

    --
    Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it.