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Jeff Bezos Unveils the Design of Blue Origin's Future Orbital Rocket -- New Glenn (theverge.com)

Earlier this year, Jeff Bezos, the founder of Blue Origin said he would unveil details about his company's orbital rocket sometime "later this year." He is now delivering on the promise. Bezos has released some preliminary details about the "New Glenn" rocket which employs seven of the company's new generation BE-4 rocket engines. The rocket, named after the first American to reach orbit, is bigger than Elon Musk's Falcon Heavy rocket. Bezos said he intends to launch the New Glenn in less than a decade from now. The Verge reports: The New Glenn will incorporate reusability, according to an email update from Bezos. The first stage of the rocket will be able to land post-launch, similar to how Blue Origin's New Shepard vehicle lands after a flight. However, the New Shepard is only capable of going to sub-orbital space, so it's not traveling as fast or as high as a rocket going to orbit. Landing an orbital rocket post-launch will put Blue Origin in a whole new ball game. And it looks like there will be a lot of rocket to land. The New Glenn will be 23 feet in diameter and range between 270 and 313 feet high. That height depends on if there is one upper stage or two on top of the rocket. With just one upper stage, the rocket will be able to send satellites and people into lower Earth orbit (LEO). But with two upper stages, the New Glenn is capable of taking payloads beyond LEO. The main portion of the rocket will be powered by seven BE-4s, an engine that Blue Origin is currently developing. It's the same engine that the company hopes to sell to the United Launch Alliance to power the future Vulcan rocket. Combined, the BE-4s should provide 3.85 million pounds of thrust, according to Bezos. That's more thrust than the 2 million pounds the Delta IV Heavy is capable of, and slightly less than the 5 million pounds SpaceX's Falcon Heavy can pull off.Bezos said: Our vision is millions of people living and working in space, and New Glenn is a very important step. It won't be the last of course. Up next on our drawing board: New Armstrong. But that's a story for the future.

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  1. Re:More realistic by NEDHead · · Score: 4, Funny

    Absolutely! There is no way SpaceX can get their rocket into orbit yet, not to speak of actually landing the first stage. They should just wait until someone else can show them how to do it.

  2. Re:More realistic by pr0t0 · · Score: 2

    Lol. I think he meant realistic for Blue Origin. But 10 years from now, who knows where SpaceX will be. Probably conducting launches from their headquarters...on Mars.

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  3. Egg them on! Competition! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Neither.

    I think those billionaires should go balls to the walls competing and boosting their egos and blowing billions. This will create the new technology, the new industry and eventually we little people will benefit.

    Precedent: railroad, auto, aircraft, computing industries. Some made bigger fortunes and others went bust. But in the end, society ended up better. So, we should egg them on.

    1. Re:Egg them on! Competition! by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Exactly. There is no harm in having multiple competing designs. It is preferable actually. As long as everyone is honest about expectations.

  4. Bigger but with less thrust? by Walking+The+Walk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The rocket, named after the first American to reach orbit, is bigger than Elon Musk's Falcon Heavy rocket ... Combined, the BE-4s should provide 3.85 million pounds of thrust, according to Bezos. That's ... slightly less than the 5 million pounds SpaceX's Falcon Heavy can pull off.

    Wait, so the rocket will be bigger, with less thrust? That doesn't sound like an improvement to me. Or do they just mean taller (there are diagrams in the article), but it will somehow manage to have lower mass and so get a better thrust to weight ratio?

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    1. Re:Bigger but with less thrust? by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      If it is more reliable than any alternative it is a HUGE improvement. Size and thrust isn't everything. Trust me!

  5. Re:Elon Musk by taiwanjohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let the games begin! I for one welcome a worthy competitor to Musk. The more billionaires we have focusing their attention and resources on real-world problems (rather than squeezing a few more basis points out of their high-frequency trading algorithms) the better off we'll all be. Even Bill Gates -- however buggy his software and however ill-gotten his gains -- appears to be using his economic power for "good" these days.

    Meanwhile, what has Jamie Dimon done for you lately? (cough!)2008

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  6. Re:Elon Musk by MachineShedFred · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except that SpaceX actually is flying stuff today, and this is a render and doesn't exist in the physical world.

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  7. The Aunt Gertrude Rapid Escape System by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I like John Glenn as much as anybody... well, actually, no. I clearly don't like John Glenn as much as Jeff Bezos, because I would never name a space rocket "New Glenn". It sounds like somebody's 50-something never-married uncle trying to rebrand himself before he goes clubbing.

  8. Re:How big will the explosion be? by naughtynaughty · · Score: 4, Informative

    Rushed into service 10 years from now?

    Rockets blow up, cars crash, trains derail and we learn a little bit more every time it happens. Even the ULA's long stretch of mishap free launches is going to have a new risk when they are forced to do what Blue Origin and SpaceX have been proactively doing, develop new engines.

    Commercial space launches are the present and the future in the US.

  9. Bad math by Topwiz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Verge math: A number that is 77% of the larger number is described as "slightly less".

  10. Four years from now... by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2

    Rushed into service 10 years from now?

    The subheading says "He says it will fly before the end of the decade". That's four years from now, not ten.

    Rockets blow up, cars crash, trains derail and we learn a little bit more every time it happens. Even the ULA's long stretch of mishap free launches is going to have a new risk when they are forced to do what Blue Origin and SpaceX have been proactively doing, develop new engines. Commercial space launches are the present and the future in the US.

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  11. Re:Elon Musk by Gavagai80 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Suborbital has almost nothing to do with orbital -- it's off by orders of magnitude and involves completely different factors. Blue Origin has yet to fly a rocket that can be developed for orbital flight.

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  12. Re:Wait... by bheerssen · · Score: 2

    Somewhere small and uncomfortable, I'll bet.

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