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SciFi TV Series 'Space Patrol Orion' Celebrates Its 50th Anniversary (wikipedia.org)

In Germany the phrase "Fallback to Earth!" is about as cult as "Engage warp drive," reports Long-time Slashdot reader Qbertino: One of the oldest science fiction TV serials, the famous German "Raumpatrouille Orion" (Space Patrol Orion) turned 50 today. Heise.de has a scoop on the anniversary in German [or roughly translated into English by Google]. The production of Space Patrol Orion predates Star Trek by roughly a year and was a huge hit in Germany, gaining the status of a "street sweeper" (Strabenfeger), referring to the effect it's airing had on public life.
The special effects are pretty good for 1966 -- you can watch episode one on YouTube. (And feel free to share other related videos in the comments.) "In the series, nations no longer exist and Earth is united," according to Wikipedia, which reports that Commander Cliff McLane and his loyal crew fight an alien race called the Frogs, and "He is notoriously defiant towards his superiors."

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  1. the frogs??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    So it's a fantasy in which Germans took over the world and are now fighting to wipe out the French???

    1. Re:the frogs??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's a fantasy in which Germans took over the world and are now fighting to wipe out the French???

      So it's basically "The Man in the High Castle"

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2. Re:the frogs??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Germans never called French "Frogs". That's a British/Anglophone thing.

    3. Re:the frogs??? by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      Have you met the French? Do you blame them?

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  2. Two thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only seven episodes? Guess it was like "The Prisoner", where it establishes its premise and then wraps everything up.

    I wonder if the series ended when the spaceship achieved a victory -- or peace -- with the Frogs. (See Star Trek VI...) Surely it's just a coincidence that "frogs" is also a derogatory slang word for French people...

    1. Re:Two thoughts by Stephan+Schulz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Only seven episodes? Guess it was like "The Prisoner", where it establishes its premise and then wraps everything up. I wonder if the series ended when the spaceship achieved a victory -- or peace -- with the Frogs. (See Star Trek VI...) Surely it's just a coincidence that "frogs" is also a derogatory slang word for French people...

      Actually, it ended because it was too expensive to produce - especially the special effects. They are not great, but then it was 1966, and Orion showed a lot more space action than Star Trek, where the redshirts beam down to whatever stage setting was available from the latest western or mobster movie.

      The series used the English term "Frogs" even in German. Neither Frogs not "Frösche" is now or was then a derogative term for the French in German.

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    2. Re:Two thoughts by ArchieBunker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I love The Prisoner. However nothing was wrapped up. I dare you to explain that last episode with the missile, the lorry, and everyone singing "dem bones".

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    3. Re:Two thoughts by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 1

      Can you explain the ridiculous dancing in the background? Did people really think we'd dance like that in the future?

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    4. Re:Two thoughts by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      I prefer "Space Patrol", made in the UK in 1962.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Yeah, it's puppets, but the detail and the attention to science is really good.

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    5. Re:Two thoughts by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      I think they were going for a deliberately alien dance to show just how different the future is.

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    6. Re: Two thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ridiculous notion was the they thought people would KNOW how to dance in the future.

    7. Re:Two thoughts by HornWumpus · · Score: 1, Funny

      Have you ever seen Germans dance? They danced like that in 1966.

      Germans do great science and engineering. But give us musical instruments and you get Polka or Techno.

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    8. Re:Two thoughts by Stephan+Schulz · · Score: 1

      Can you explain the ridiculous dancing in the background? Did people really think we'd dance like that in the future?

      I think this is just intended to show that it's different from today. But if you look at history, I don't think this is too far from the envelope of human behaviour:

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    9. Re:Two thoughts by Sique · · Score: 1

      Polka is not German. As the name tells you, it's Polish (it's actually Polish for "Polish").

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    10. Re:Two thoughts by Opportunist · · Score: 0

      Compared to how Germans danced back then, THIS isn't what deserves the attribute "ridiculous".

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    11. Re:Two thoughts by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Wikipedia puts the blame on the Czechs...

      In any case; German's should in no case be allowed to dance. At best, it looks so much like marching, the French surrender.

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    12. Re:Two thoughts by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      No one danced like that in the 1960s.
      The dances are artificially invented just for this TV show.

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    13. Re:Two thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      "...I dare you to explain that last episode ..."

      Really good Acid.
      This has been rumoured for decades, but a much better explanation is simply overwork. Once, I pulled 60 hours straight at the Lab, and on the way home, I saw Giraffes feeding by the Freeway. I didn't consider it particularly unusual at the time...
      McGoohan wrote, produced, directed, and starred in the last episode, and he was still working on the Script as filming started. Odd things happen to and around the sleep-deprived. (Remember the Dick van Dyke Show episode where Rob attempts to stay awake for 100 hours as a publicity stunt?)

      Captcha: ostrich
      (At least it wasn't a Giraffe.....)

    14. Re:Two thoughts by germansausage · · Score: 1, Informative

      or Rammstein, Accept and the Scorpions. (Who all had their moments.)

    15. Re:Two thoughts by wa2flq · · Score: 0

      Only seven episodes? Guess it was like "The Prisoner", where it establishes its premise and then wraps everything up.

      I wonder if the series ended when the spaceship achieved a victory -- or peace -- with the Frogs. (See Star Trek VI...) Surely it's just a coincidence that "frogs" is also a derogatory slang word for French people...

      Actually, it ended because it was too expensive to produce - especially the special effects. They are not great, but then it was 1966, and Orion showed a lot more space action than Star Trek, where the redshirts beam down to whatever stage setting was available from the latest western or mobster movie.

      You'd blow your budget too if you had to land your spaceship on a new planet every week. The parking meter fees alone will drive you into bankruptcy.

    16. Re:Two thoughts by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

      How and why Star Trek did what it did was a LOT more complicated than simply beaming onto whatever miscellaneous set was available, as you state.

      Go read the "These Are the Voyages" books. Even the free sample from Amazon will do.

      Star Trek had almost nothing to work with and no budget and went to extremes to make the show look as good as they could. Sometimes they failed but a lot or times they succeeded. I never much cared for the old show but having now read how they did it and why, and how much genius went into simple things like lighting a set... it's completely different now.

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    17. Re:Two thoughts by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 1

      IIRC, the name was supposed to be an abbreviation/bastardization of fremde Organismen, as the inscrutable aliens were never really shown, only blurry human shapes where they were supposedly standing.

    18. Re:Two thoughts by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 1

      Note that I misremembered. One of the characters specifically christened them "Frogs", specifically saying that the German word (Frösche) was too familiar, thus the "foreign language" name.

  3. Effects Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very good looking effects and brilliant set designs for the time! Pity the linked YouTube video isn't subtitled, though. I must research this more--this could well be a very overlooked gem. Certainly better than constantly hearing about that OTHER fifty-year-old series that people won't shut the hell up about.

    1. Re:Effects Quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This one is subtitled.

    2. Re:Effects Quality by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Also check out "Space Patrol" - well worth it!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  4. I prefer WInnetou by tanimislam · · Score: 0

    Heh, I prefer Winnetou.

    1. Re:I prefer WInnetou by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You prefer book written by a German con-man about the US? So, in fact, did Hitler.

  5. Lost in Space by Improv · · Score: 1

    Looks a lot like another Lost in Space (which was a few years before this). There were plenty of shows of this sort at the time.

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    1. Re:Lost in Space by hey! · · Score: 1

      The set decoration reminds me vaguely of the old German expressionist films, where a very obviously stagey set was gussied up with striking design.

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    2. Re:Lost in Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Looks a lot like another Lost in Space (which was a few years before this)."

      There is this thing now called "The Internet" where you can check things called "Facts".
      "Lost In Space" premiered on September 15, 1965, just one year before. ("Star Trek" premiered September 8, 1966.)

      There was a really good 1961 British Sci-Fi series called "A For Andromeda", written by Fred Hoyle and starring a very young and very pretty Julie Christie. Only one episode survives intact, so it is right up there with the early "Dr. Who" obsessions.

    3. Re:Lost in Space by Improv · · Score: 1

      Are you thinking of Metropolis? If so I can see the resemblance.

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  6. Well about the "Frogs" by Casandro · · Score: 1

    There were no references to French people as such particularly since nation states apparently did not exist any more. There was one reference to "Frogs" being a kind of animal. In the series there were just blurry shapes with glitter. There actually was a French version of that series which seemingly got lost in the mists of time. Only one fragment exists.

    The reason why there were only so few episodes was that it was _really_ expensive to make. Multiple German TV stations had to cooperate to finance it. Since it was filmed just before TV stations invested in colour, it didn't get sold abroad very much. There were plans to make a second series in colour but those were abandoned.

    What really drew new generations of viewers to that series are the sets and the dancing. Both incredibly goofy even for a 1960s show.

    1. Re:Well about the "Frogs" by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      There actually was a French version of that series which seemingly got lost in the mists of time. Only one fragment exists.

      French TV was a co-producer and some scenes were re-shot with french actors according to Wikipedia:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    2. Re:Well about the "Frogs" by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the special effects! The army of pencil sharpeners and electric irons that doubled as control panel equipment, the start and landing in a swirl of water, the burning bags of dog poop that were meteorites... Awesome stuff!

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  7. Re:YOU MAY HAVE MISSED THE OTHER ONE by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    Saw it in the firehose, no way to let them know that they were wrong :-(

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  8. So what's "Men Into Space"??? Chopped Liver?? by OzPeter · · Score: 1, Informative

    Men In Space started broadcasting on September 30, 1959.

    And if you are in the US you can see episode airing on Comet TV

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    1. Re:So what's "Men Into Space"??? Chopped Liver?? by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      Heh..I watched "Men into Space" when it was first run, when I was a preschooler. I thought that it was a documentary, and I really wanted to join the Space Corps when I grew up. I was bitterly disappointed when my older brother explained that it was fiction.

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  9. "Straßenfeger", not "Strabenfeger" by Knuckles · · Score: 1

    n/t

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  10. Re:YOU MAY HAVE MISSED THE OTHER ONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wrong about what?

  11. It's "Strassenfeger" by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    I guess the German "sz" ligature does look a bit like a "b".
    Should've seen that coming, sorry.

    "ß" is the letter, a ligature for "sz" that is a common member of the german glyph alphabet.
    But you can substitute it with two "s"es in a pinch.

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    1. Re: It's "Strassenfeger" by burni2 · · Score: 2

      If you'd just knew how close you really are to a Nazi.

    2. Re: It's "Strassenfeger" by Hognoxious · · Score: 0

      Achtung Schweinhund! Ich habe kein Polenüberfallenversicherung für meinem Strassenbahnhalestellemittelstoff.

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    3. Re: It's "Strassenfeger" by Qbertino · · Score: 1

      Achtung Schweinhund! Ich habe kein Polenüberfallenversicherung für meinem Strassenbahnhalestellemittelstoff.

      Jawohl Herr Stabsobergruppentruppstandartenscharführer!

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  12. "Frogs" - Fremde Rasse ohne galagtische Signatur. by Qbertino · · Score: 2

    "Foreign race without galactic signature."

    Not exactly french, but maybe close enough, depending on your point of view. :-)

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  13. Re:YOU MAY HAVE MISSED THE OTHER ONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time!
    Space!
    Human!
    Race!
    Mostly time!

  14. Sorry I missed it :( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I started up the youtube of the first show and my wife walk by and said she remember it as a kid, and that was in Seattle. I wonder which station it was on, maybe 11?

  15. Re:"Frogs" - Fremde Rasse ohne galagtische Signatu by Sique · · Score: 1

    Only the Germans who have a quite good knowledge of U.S. culture would be able to identify frogs with the French. First, the frog in German is called Frosch, not Frog, and second, the Germans don't call the French frogs, that's an U.S. term.

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  16. Re:"Frogs" - Fremde Rasse ohne galagtische Signatu by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    IIRC that nickname was chosen because it sounded "alien", yet familiar enough, and of course it had to sound cool and edgy. And in the 60s, anything "English" was absolutely edgy and cool.

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  17. Lydia van Dyke by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    Luckily this name is taken on Eve Online.

    Guess by whom ...

    Played by Charlotte Kerr, one of the most beautiful women who ever lived. RIP.

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    1. Re:Lydia van Dyke by burni2 · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing that this handle is taken by a guy?

    2. Re:Lydia van Dyke by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Obviously, as the game is only played by guys.
      Well, not true, about 1% - 2% are women.

      I actually don't play her, I only took the name and tried to make a nice portrait for her ...

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    3. Re:Lydia van Dyke by Progman3K · · Score: 1

      You are so right.
      Every time she is on-screen I have to watch the scene at least three time to be able to finally read the subtitles, I just can't take my eyes off her

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  18. Predates Star Trek by a year? by darthsilun · · Score: 0

    The production of Space Patrol Orion predates Star Trek by roughly a year

    I guess production is the magic word.

    Because we already celebrated Star Trek's 50th this year. And somehow this show – which also aired in 1966 if we're celebrating its 50th now – predates Star Trek.

    1. Re:Predates Star Trek by a year? by burni2 · · Score: 1

      Not in Germany, Star Trek was unkown for many years.

    2. Re:Predates Star Trek by a year? by darthsilun · · Score: 0

      Not sure what your point is. Nobody "here" know about Space Patrol Orion until yesterday. By your logic then it's the newer show.

  19. Explain Macarena .. and I will explain Galyxo by burni2 · · Score: 2

    nuff said.

  20. So did Trump .. by burni2 · · Score: 1

    .. nuff nuff ..

  21. The difference between Star Trek & RP Orion by burni2 · · Score: 1

    First the similarities:
    Cliff Mclane / James T. Kirk
    - good looking
    - strong
    - black sheep

    Now the difference

    General Lydia van Dyke (high ranking female) disciplining Cliff Mclane and not getting layed!

  22. Re:"Frogs" - Fremde Rasse ohne galagtische Signatu by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    'Frog' was coined by the Brits.

    Also: http://www.rsdb.org/

    Missing a lot.

    Dutch: missing 'Swamp German'

    SF Bay area citizen: no entry, missing 'Bay Aryan'.

    Disappointing Belgian entry. Half from Monty Python.

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  23. Re: Was it his duty gun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take your damn meds and stay on topic.

  24. English Subtitles by wjcofkc · · Score: 3, Funny

    The great thing about keeping up with English subtitles derived from German dialog is that you get the challenge of keeping up with 500 words per minute. You could make a brain game or some such thing out of it.

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  25. Got Vax? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heh..I watched "Men into Space" when it was first run, when I was a preschooler.

    So that must make you...

  26. Re:YOU MAY HAVE MISSED THE OTHER ONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Orion: Original release 17 September – 10 December 1966

    vs

    TOS: Original release September 8, 1966 – June 3, 1969

    That is not "about a year earlier"

  27. I stay on the topic I want .. by burni2 · · Score: 1

    .. problems with that?

    At least it was the topic of the thread.

  28. Expensive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was so expensive, they even used a clothes iron as a prop on the ship's bridge.

    1. Re:Expensive? by Qbertino · · Score: 1

      It was so expensive, they even used a clothes iron as a prop on the ship's bridge.

      Yes. That iron ("Bügeleisen" in German) actually has cult status. It's basically a national heritage. :-)

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