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Assange Agrees to US Prison If Obama Pardons Chelsea Manning (theverge.com)
"If Obama grants Manning clemency, Assange will agree to U.S. prison in exchange -- despite its clear unlawfulness," Wikileaks announced on Twitter Thursday. An anonymous Slashdot reader quotes The Verge:
WikiLeaks' statement was released one day before a Swedish appeals court decided to maintain a warrant for Assange's arrest over a 2010 rape charge. Assange has said that extradition to Sweden would lead to his eventual extradition to the US, where he could face charges related to WikiLeaks' publication of secret government documents... Assange has been living in political asylum at the Ecuadorian embassy in London since 2012...
Chelsea Manning, a former US Army private, was convicted in 2013 for providing a trove of documents and videos to WikiLeaks, and is currently serving a 35-year sentence at the US Disciplinary Barracks in Leavenworth, Kansas. She was hospitalized after a reported suicide attempt in July, and this month went on a hunger strike to seek treatment for her gender dysphoria. Manning ended her hunger strike this week after the military agreed to allow her to have gender reassignment surgery. She still faces indefinite solitary confinement due to administrative charges related to her suicide attempt.
The tweet also included a link to a letter from Assange's attorney, Barry Pollack, calling on the Justice Department to be more transparent about its investigation into WikiLeaks -- and citing the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's handling of classified information. "Director Comey made it clear his conclusion was based on the necessity of proving criminal intent [and] noted that responsible prosecutors consider the context of a person's actions... Criminal prosecution is appropriate only when a person...was intending to aid enemies of the United States or was attempting to obstruct justice."
Chelsea Manning, a former US Army private, was convicted in 2013 for providing a trove of documents and videos to WikiLeaks, and is currently serving a 35-year sentence at the US Disciplinary Barracks in Leavenworth, Kansas. She was hospitalized after a reported suicide attempt in July, and this month went on a hunger strike to seek treatment for her gender dysphoria. Manning ended her hunger strike this week after the military agreed to allow her to have gender reassignment surgery. She still faces indefinite solitary confinement due to administrative charges related to her suicide attempt.
The tweet also included a link to a letter from Assange's attorney, Barry Pollack, calling on the Justice Department to be more transparent about its investigation into WikiLeaks -- and citing the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's handling of classified information. "Director Comey made it clear his conclusion was based on the necessity of proving criminal intent [and] noted that responsible prosecutors consider the context of a person's actions... Criminal prosecution is appropriate only when a person...was intending to aid enemies of the United States or was attempting to obstruct justice."
This is completely bizarre. Assange is not currently wanted in the US. There is no indictment against him, there isn't a warrant for his arrest, and there is no request for extradition. I'm not sure how he can "agree to go to prison" when he hasn't been charged with a crime. The U.S. doesn't actually let people go to prison just because they want to; they have to be found guilty of a crime.
Assange is wanted in Sweden (although so far he's only wanted for questioning.)
Assange is wanted in Britain-- for jumping bail.
But he's not wanted for a crime in the U.S. He could agree to go to prison in Sweden or Britain-- why doesn't he volunteer to do that?
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A Leavenworth judge disagrees with you. Her legal name has been Chelsea Elizabeth Manning since 2014. Do try to keep up. Does it bother you that much that someone else can take control of their life? This sort of thing has been going on since the early 20th century. Time to get over it, don't you think? Or did you think this was the Flat Earth Society Discussion Group / Luddite Support Forum?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
AC nobody expects a secret US grand jury investigation.
"EPIC Partially Prevails in FOIA Case, Wikileaks Investigation Ongoing"
https://epic.org/foia/doj/wiki...
US government still hunting WikiLeaks as Obama targets whistleblowers (6 March 2015)
https://www.theguardian.com/me...
more at http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj...
"The FBI's "still active and ongoing" probe of WikiLeaks" (March 06, 2015)
http://www.courthousenews.com/...
from https://epic.org/foia/doj/wiki...
i.e. "... the Department of Justice and FBI’s multi-subject investigation into the unauthorised disclosure of classified information published on WikiLeaks, which is “still active and ongoing” and remains in the investigative stage."
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Actually Obama illegally traded terrorists to get Manning returned to the US and free of his fellow terrorists. I see no reason to think that Obama wouldn't also pardon Manning for his high crimes, including desertion and possibly treason. It is the rest of America that don't want to see this traitor pardoned, so it seems likely that Obama would do it even without an Asange incentive. Obama might even give it a metal.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
SRS (Sex Reassignment Surgery), GRS (Gender Reassignment Surgery), GAS (Gender Affirming Surgery), they all mean the same thing. The newer terms came to the fore to de-emphasize the "sex" part. And no, gender is not a psychological construct. It's embedded in the physical - otherwise there would be no need for SRS. The perception of being wrong-gendered is due to the development of the brain before birth, and that's controlled by the expression of the genes of the fetus, same as everything else.
The attempt to separate gender and sex is a bit of political correctness. The term "sexual identity" is more appropriate - the sex you identify with. There's no need to abuse words to be politically correct, to try to make an artificial difference between the sex you identify as and the gender you identify as - ask a transsexual and both questions get the same answer, male (female-to-male) or female (male-to-female). Not "agender", not "cross-dresser", not "gender-fluid", not "gender-fucked". The rest of the lgbtqiiac-whatever alphabet soup is not dealing with a person who identifies as a sex other than what they physically are that can be fixed by hormones, therapy, surgery, etc. Theirs is simply not a medical problem, and as such, there's no cure and no need for one, any more than a "cure" for being straight or gay.
The proper term for lgb-whatever would be sexual expression - straight, gay, etc. How you express your sexuality. But we don't live in a perfect world. As one example, transgender and transsexual used to mean the same thing - someone who identified as the opposite sex. Then a cross-dresser going under the name of Victoria Prince appropriated "transgender" to describe male cross-dressers, and published a monthly magazine targeted at the lgbt community to push the term. His idea (I use "he" because he always identified as male) wrote that even when dressed as the opposite sex, transvestites don't lose their maleness, which is "part of the thrill". Now we have everyone being unclear of what individual terms mean.
For example, most people assume that male-to-female transsexuals would become lesbians if they were straight before. It doesn't work that way - 1/2 are straight as females, 1/3 are bisexual, and only 1/6 are lesbians. But such has been the appropriation of transsexuals by the lgbt community (because if you blur the line between transsexuals and cross-dressers, the cross-dressers, many of whom are gay and btw really enjoy beating up on transsexuals on-line) benefit from the "halo" of medical approval transsexuals enjoyed long before being gay became acceptable, that people are surprised to find this out.
Like everything else in life, it's complicated. More complicated than it needs to be.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
...a 2010 rape charge
a) He hasn't been charged with anything
b) It isn't "rape" he's wanted for questioning over.
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>Until very recently, homosexuality effectively removed your genes from the pool,
Nope. Never been true. Gay people have been having kids since time immemorial. Most of them married somebody of the opposite sex as part of their cover after all. Not to mention the best scientific evidence we have suggests that homosexuality is transfered epigenitically - which means you don't need a gay gene to have gay offspring. The fact that homosexuality has been observed in over 3000 species and is now believed to exist in pretty much all sexual species - proves it *must* have an evolutionary survival advantage for the species, it simply cannot be that common (including across kingdoms with no common ancestor for a billion years) unless it's a universally good thing to have in a species which evolves again and again.
Unicode killed the ASCII-art *
The Rosenbergs were executed for Treason. We were not in a state of declared war with the Soviet Union whom they committed their act of treason on behalf of. Your argument has no basis in reality.
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I'm too lazy to compose a creative sig.
Sweden doesn't charge you unless you are present to defend yourself.
Why can't idiots learn that?
And they've been given ample opportunity to question him before deciding whether or not lay charges, which they should be doing as part of their investigation, but aren't, because this is politically motivated.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.