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Valve Bans Developer From Steam After It Sues Customers Over Bad Reviews (arstechnica.com)

From an ArsTechnica report: A game developer has been banned from Steam after users claimed that it had attempted to sue 100 users of the platform for $18 million -- for the crime of leaving bad reviews. Digital Homicide, which has released dozens of small games mostly available for a couple of quid each, had its titles removed from Valve's popular digital distribution platform on Friday night. Its boss, James Romine, was granted a subpoena by a court in Arizona apparently allowing him to demand the release of "identification and associated data" of anonymous Steam users. The lawsuit listed in turn the misdemeanours of dozens of John/Jane Does, which include counts of "harassment," "stalking," and "cyber-bullying." In a brief e-mail sent to Vice's Motherboard at the end of last week, Valve's marketing veep Doug Lombardi confirmed that "Valve has stopped doing business with Digital Homicide for being hostile to Steam customers."

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  1. First Post - Great move Valve! by FoolishBluntman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like those guys!

    1. Re:First Post - Great move Valve! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm indifferent to them. I wish I didn't have to use them to play games, but, for bloat/spy/drmware they do a decent job.

      They're clearly in the right here. Kudos to them for blocking a client and any revenue they would have got selling that client's games. Long term this is a smart move and besides being "right" will also help them retain customer loyalty.

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  2. My favorite from TFA... by HBI · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Romine's GoFundMe account, set up to fund the suit, has made just $425 of his $75,000 goal, even though he claims he "received a pile of feces in the mail" and that he had had messages saying things like "Your wife is a whore," and "I hope you die in a fiery car crash.""

    Romine is a guy who does not get teh net.

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    1. Re:My favorite from TFA... by Dins · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can't believe ANYONE associated with this dev could think this was a good idea. It's possible you could have a user or two make serious threats, but 100? Sorry, didn't happen.

      And if you make games so bad as to inspire 100 people to send you death threats, maybe you should re-evaluate your chosen career...

    2. Re:My favorite from TFA... by HBI · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think this guy is a bit impermeable to advice. He needs a stint of inpatient therapy and anger management classes.

      I'd like to congratulate (but not shake the hand) of the guy who sent him the shit.

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    3. Re:My favorite from TFA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      This same company is suing Jim Sterling (a video game reviewer) for giving them bad reviews. It's been very public and with what they've done with Sterling, this seems exactly in their character. And what's really bad is this company got Jim Sterlings eye because they mostly just sell what's called "asset flips", where they buy some art assets off of the Unity asset store, and then just sell the demo for them on Steam for $10 a pop. They're scum.

    4. Re:My favorite from TFA... by HBI · · Score: 2

      The poop mail and threats (and the GoFundMe) were related to the Sterling suit, though you gave me some context I didn't have. That's scummy as hell...basically selling defective/deficient goods. I'm surprised Valve let them last this long.

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    5. Re:My favorite from TFA... by lgw · · Score: 4, Informative

      So all the outrage over "ethics in gaming journalism " [lolllz] doesn't apply here because it's not about a woman?

      Actually, this is also about "ethics in gaming journalism": Jim Sterling has some. He's been sued, banned, and dis-invited by a variety of publishers because he actually gives bad reviews. He's willing to lose pre-release reviewer copies from a publisher if that's what it takes to call a shit game shit.

      Jim Sterling and Total Biscuit are the only video game reviewers I trust these days - I assume everyone else self-censors bad review to keep a "good relationship" with publishers, as the preponderance of evidence is that they do. Jim Sterling likes to review bad games, and TB has moved to only giving air time to good games, so they're complementary.

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    6. Re:My favorite from TFA... by pla · · Score: 2

      I am sorry but shouldn't the people who make those sorts of threats be placed in a mental facility to have their head examined?

      Not talking about credible death threats here, or even something you could call a direct threat at all.

      For example, one oft-quoted reviewer wrote "I want to murder every single person responsible for this". No reasonable person would take that seriously, that random gamer would literally hunt down and kill all of DH's employees.

    7. Re:My favorite from TFA... by lgw · · Score: 2

      Did you actually watch the video? It was more along the lines of: if you haven't learned yet about pre-orders, you really haven't been paying attention. Fool me 100 times, shame on me.

      I've watched too many NMS reviews to keep them all straight, but the hype was absurd on this one, as in death threats to Reddit posters who posted when the launch date slipped. People had gone over the top for NMS, and that deserves to be called out. If you're a rabid fanboy (at any time really, but before the game even launches?), you are part of the problem.

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    8. Re:My favorite from TFA... by HBI · · Score: 2

      Litigate against your customers and you get what you get. I have no sympathy for this piece of shit.

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    9. Re:My favorite from TFA... by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      Maybe those people should grow the fuck up and stop acting like teenage shitlords.

      You do realize that even teenage shitlords have internet access?

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  3. Steam is the best of these networks by far by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And credit where credit is due, I haven't had the Steam client do something amazingly stupid in ages.

    On the other hand, what happens if these paragons of virtue somehow lose control of the company?

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    1. Re:Steam is the best of these networks by far by Tharkkun · · Score: 2

      Sony has barely enough money to keep itself afloat, let alone buy the most successful PC distributer.

      So what? Throughout history there have been many companies who made acquisitions they couldn't afford -- trying to buy their way to success. It's also one of the leading causes of bankruptcies.

      Of course but Sony doesn't have the capital to even do that. They just sold off their PC gaming division last year. I don't see them jumping back into it.

  4. More like by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 4, Funny

    More like Digital Suicide! Hur-hur-hur — I'll see myself out.

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  5. Re:WTF is a quid? by naris · · Score: 5, Informative

    quid is definitely not teenie language, the term has been around for a **very** long time, several hundred years. It refers to english currency, 1 pound sterling to be exact.

  6. Re:WTF is a quid? by belthize · · Score: 5, Funny

    Agreed, it is fairly hard to understand foreign languages like Great Britainniash..

    To clarify a couple of quid is around 500 Albanian Leks

  7. Re:WTF is a quid? by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

    It's British English for a UK pound (the unit of currency used there, worth a dollar and change), and it's about as much "teenie language" (I assume you mean language used by teenagers) as "a buck" is in the US (when referring to a dollar.)

    Which is not to say I think it was the best choice of word for a Slashdot summary.

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  8. Digital Homicide is known for this. by Qbertino · · Score: 3, Informative

    Digital Homicide is known for this type of shit. I have lost count of the times Jim Sterling has brought them up whenever they were screwing around again.

    It would be nice to see Valve/Steam finally getting up to some quality management and start kicking out the assholes and doucebags. Digital Homicide is a very good start.

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  9. Re:WTF is a quid? by D00MSlayer · · Score: 2

    Just in the event that those who still don't understand, 500 Albanian Leks is about 320 Bengladeshi Taka.

  10. Re: WTF is a quid? by HiThere · · Score: 2

    Yeah, but I thought it was 20 pounds, but perhaps that's a stone.

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  11. Re:Current Exchange quid to buck by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

    For the non-english speakers a quid is equal to 1.3 bucks.

    When I go buck hunting, I bring home two whole bucks. Anyone who tries to walk off with two-thirds of my buck will get an ass full of lead. :P

  12. Re:Current Exchange quid to buck by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    Poacher!

    I don't think I can use a poacher to cook buck.

  13. Re: WTF is a quid? by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah, I know that place. All my computer RAM is made there.

  14. Unlikely you'd keep squid in your wallet by raymorris · · Score: 2

    > one of the shipboard currency substitutes was the otherwise useless saltwater squid that they would sometimes catch.

    There are many possible explanations, and that is probably the least likely. Probably most likely is that it comes from 'quid pro quo' (trade one thing for another).

    A substitute currency is far more likely to be something like cigarettes/tobacco or rum which has some value to many members of the group. If you catch "otherwise worthless" squid from time to time, why on earth would you give trade good rum to get another worthless squid? There are two requirements for currency. It must a) a medium of exchange and b) a store of value. In prison (or on a ship), I can get cigarettes from you today and use them to buy soups next week. If I get squid from you today, next week I have ... well I've long since thrown that rotting squid overboard.

  15. Re: WTF is a quid? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

    I suspect he knew that- he was just practicing "American Exceptionalism" to try and rile people up. Only Americanisms are acceptable on the World-Series Wide Web.

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  16. Re:WTF is a quid? by Boronx · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or about 250 Trillian Zimbabwean dollars.

  17. Rhodes pianos by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 2

    Harold Rhodes was famous for his electric pianos made in the 1960s to 1985, until digital keyboards rendered every electric piano obsolete. By the late 1990s, Rhodes pianos were becoming popular again and Harold was looking to put them back in production. Joseph Brandstetter took over the company and assets after Harold died of Alzheimers in 2001, and new Rhodes pianos went back into production under his watch.

    Unfortunately Brandstetter turned out to be an aggressive trademark bully, suing any website or musical instrument company using the "Rhodes" trademark. He made the fatal mistake of making infringement threats against the largest collection of potential Rhodes customers - the website fenderrhodes.com where fans of the "vintage era" Rhodes piano hang out to discuss all things Rhodes. Brandstetter managed to p!ss off the members and site owners so much that no discussion of Brandstetter's pianos are permitted at all. In an act of defiance, the website never changed its name. News got around the web and sales dropped off. A few years later, Brandstetter was seeking buyers for his company. I don't know what became of it, but the outcome of that fiasco was that few of the new pianos ever made it out of the factory.

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  18. Arse-pies by dfsmith · · Score: 2

    When I moved to the USA, I was briefly confused as to why the Steak and Kidney pies tasted different. Turns out they have steak in over here. (See also, Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler.)

  19. Re:WTF is a quid? by Anomalyst · · Score: 3, Funny

    So we should expect a UK remake of the classic John Candy flick as "Uncle Quid"?

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