Larry Ellison Says 'Amazon's Lead is Over' As Oracle Unveils New Cloud Infrastructure (venturebeat.com)

Oracle has unveiled its second generation of cloud infrastructure for third-party developers to run their applications in Oracle data centers. What is interesting about the announcement is that Oracle co-founder and chief technology officer Larry Ellison claiming that "Amazon's lead is over. Amazon's going to have serious competition going forward." From a VentureBeat report: One particular instance, or virtual-machine (VM) type, that Oracle is making available in this second-generation offering -- the Dense IO Shape -- offers 28.8TB, 512GB, and 36 cores, at a price of $5.40 per hour. This product offers more than 10 times the input-output capacity of Amazon Web Services (AWS), specifically the i2.8xlarge instance, said Ellison. Currently, AWS leads the cloud infrastructure market, with Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud Platform, and IBM trailing behind. Oracle's public cloud was not included in the most recent version of Gartner's highly regarded cloud infrastructure as a service (IaaS) Magic Quadrant, which was released last month. "Oracle also does not have enough market share to qualify for inclusion," the authors of the report wrote.

Comments

Aw hell no

[TFlan91]

I can 100% see some fine print in their ToS that binds that person from ever using any other cloud vendor ever again.

All this bad news recently circling Oracle doesn't lead credence to their reliability as a cloud vendor.

Re:Aw hell no

[tnk1]

At this point, just the name Oracle is enough to make me stay well away from their cloud. I have seen what they have done with their database and how they manage to wring what money they can out of the unsuspecting and have no interest in feeding that beast, even if their prices are rock bottom.

AWS has its problems, but their pricing and product offering is not bad enough that I would go into the gutter to let that disease into my organization. I'd go Azure long before I'd go Oracle in any event. (Not that such a thought is something I consider appetizing either...)

Well if Larry says it's true it must be true

[DeVoh]

Amazon may just as well shutdown today.. Larry says it's done.

No.

[dmomo]

Amazon's lead is over when they've lost the market share, not when someone who wishes it were over announces it as such.

Re:No.

[bursch-X]

But Oracle is going to be huuuuge. And they'll totally bury crooked Amazon. And they'll build a firewall and they'll have Amazon pay for it.

Trusting oracle with all your infrastructure

[j14ast]

What could go wrong?

  (too lazy to link every single letter in that sentence a different oracle security and or biz fail, so use google)

Re:Trusting oracle with all your infrastructure

[arth1]

Well, it does come with 28.8TB, which should be enough for a couple of weeks of Oracle logs.

Wishful thinking

[cyberthanasis12]

I don't trust/like the "cloud". I don't like AWS in particular. But if there was the slightest possibility that I had to use Oracle cloud, I would rather marry Amazon to escape.

Ellison is a terrorist

[gavron]

Larry Ellison is a sociopath http://www.canadianbusiness.co... who has singlehandedly done more damage to the software world https://www.wired.com/2014/05/... than any other man since software became a thing. His self-aggrandizing attention-seeking narcissism https://books.google.com/books... proves that when you have money and you're a dick the media still loves you.

Larry Ellison is a liar.

If he says Amazon's lead is over you can rest assured knowing that three things are true:
1. Amazon's lead is not over
2. Larry is hoping to create a self-fulfilling prophecy so that it will be true
3. He's going for the free PR that he's getting by saying outrageous thing. It's a Trump thing.

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P.S. The subject line I wrote is "Ellison is a terrorist." Given all the explosives he's set off in Java, APIs, Harmony, etc. the man should be locked up.

Re:Ellison is a terrorist

[Jack9]

> who has singlehandedly done more damage to the software world

That title is reserved by Bill Gates. WTF has Larry done to software? Nothing. I mean they took the baby MS steps of creating a walled garden of substandard software and letting their once decent product line fester and slowly moulder. Positioning to do it again is not any worse. Oracle fails to even come close to setting poor standards, wiping out standards, wiping out companies, creatior locking down hardware that MS achieved. What a warped perspective to imagine Oracle has affected the software profession (much less industry).

Re:Ellison is a terrorist

[baboon]

Thank you. I post less than once a year, but I have to speak now. Modding up would not be good enough.

I have stated almost this exact quote many, many times throughout my life, but always attributing the honor to "Bill Gates". It is truly tragic to consider where we could have been now, or even twenty years ago, if that ill-conceived cardboard substitute for an operating system hadn't been unleashed upon the world. Let us not forget.

Windows is like a hollow plastic hammer. It appeals to the timid who are afraid of breaking anything. But once you actually try to get some work done, you realize that you are only playing with a toy.

You're still using Windows? When you buy a frame, you're supposed to throw away the sample picture it comes with.

Re:Ellison is a terrorist

[chaboud]

You may not like Windows (note: none of my computer equipment, phones, or work machines run Windows), but it normalized a pretty significant set of operating system features ranging from preemptive multitasking to pluggable filesystems to a workable fast userspace mutex. Windows also maintained a *wildly* long history of binary compatibility well beyond virtually any other OS out there.

They did some next level shit.

I was an Amiga user, a Mac user, a Linux junkie, etc. To call Windows "playing with a toy" is to demonstrate an utter lack of awareness of the depth of that operating system and its facilities.

Of course, I'd rather use Linux or mac OS (and there were others, like NeXTSTEP, along the way), but let's give credit where it's due.

Competition....from Oracle?

[MAXOMENOS]

Oracle is going to beat Amazon? Not Google, not Microsoft? Oracle? That strikes me as VERY unlikely. They might have the tech, but they're not going to have the customer base.

Re:Competition....from Oracle?

[The-Ixian]

I agree. They have a hell of an uphill climb... though they do have enterprise customers.

But does Oracle have any customer loyalty? I don't think I have ever heard anyone recommend Oracle anything (not talking about Sun's ex-products).... only grudgingly accept it as the only viable option due to vendor lock in.

Re: That'll to be one to avoid PRICE HIKES on then

[Esteanil]

* license fees not included. All computers connecting to the cloud must be separately licensed. Unlicensed connectees will be charged to site owner at a 600% penalty. Any use of competing cloud services incur license fees for all computers operating in or connecting to the entirety of said cloud service, charged to site owner.
Site owner agrees Oracle holds title to first- through fifth-born.

Oracle's touch is poisonous

[Wokan]

Oracle DB - Licensing prices capable of bringing down even the richest empire
Java - Dead language walking on the client side. Server side use waning, though still has a lot of life remaining from Sun's stewardship (even with Sun's missteps).
OpenOffice.org - About to be put out of its misery by Apache. Long live Libreoffice.
VirtualBox - Decent for desktop virtualization and trying out other OSs. No real potential as an enterprise tool. Has somehow avoided getting screwed up by Oracle so far, but I expect the extensions package to monetized and licensed into oblivion any day.
MySQL - lapped by MariaDB for anyone serious about security (see recent root access exploit)
ZFS on Linux would be a non-issue if a company other than Oracle was involved in the matter.

Re:Oracle's touch is poisonous

[fishCannon]

Dude, you just described maintaining ANY software. None of those problems are unique to java.

Re:Evil Beard

[Anne Thwacks]

I mean I just expect him to be terrorizing the world from a giant mechanical spider to which our weapons are useless

expect? I would link to the videos but the NDA prevents it.

Re:Larry's bombast

[ndykman]

On what service?. Azure has CDN services with similar pricing structure as AWS. No free tier, though.

Of course, cloud pricing is very tricky, overall, but the cost structures between Amazon and Azure are more and more in line these days, The competition between the two is starting to show some pricing benefits.

So why?

[frank_adrian314159]

Why would anyone want to do business with Larry Ellison and Oracle? Cyanide's preferable.

Re:Larry's bombast

[AK Marc]

Azure is insanely expensive for VMs. Azure is MS's cloud play to extend Windows developers into the cloud. A hosted API is cheap. A hosted VM is insane (and not portable). With most hosted VMs you can use an OVA or other container to move seamlessly between platforms. With Azure, you can't even move seamlessly between Hyper-V and Azure, and they are both MS VM platforms. You develop for a Windows box, but rather than running it as a .NET on a web server, you run it on Azure. If you want to run a windows-only service, Azure may be reasonable. But certainly not for "hosting" VMs.

Re: That'll to be one to avoid PRICE HIKES on then

[jeff4747]

Wow. They're really loosening their licensing terms.