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macOS Sierra Is Now Available For Download (engadget.com)

Dave Knott writes: Apple's latest desktop operating system, macOS Sierra, is now available for download. In addition to the Siri virtual assistant hitting the desktop for the first time, the free update includes features like a universal clipboard, revamped Messages, a storage optimization tool, and Apple Pay on the web.Engadget has also tested the new operating system and gave it a fairly positive review. It notes that Siri integration is "useful, if you already use Siri," and that iCloud and storage improvements have "practical benefits for everyone." But at the same time, the publication found that Siri "isn't always smart enough."

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  1. Worse than Win10 for Privacy defaults by Etcetera · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've got to imagine that some of this stuff is not going to go down well with corporate users, unless they can lock it down real tight.

    "Here, we'll automatically upload stuff to the Cloud and remove it from your local computer if we don't think you need it."
    "You can have us permanently store your voice and background conversations and run it through our linguistic analysis AI even if you're not dictating anything."

    With all of the other privacy and security issues surrounding smartphones, making laptops more smartphone-like doesn't seem like a benefit.

  2. Re:universal clipboard wtf by nine-times · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Dad hits copy to copy/paste something on his laptop at the office, and the kids upstairs doing their homework go to paste something into a document on the ipad upstairs have that content dumped into the document.

    Well it's not quite as bad as that. It only works if they're both signed in using the same iCloud account. So you'll only have a problem if Dad and Son are signed into the same iCloud account on their devices. Even then... I have Sierra and an iPhone, and I can't figure out how the feature is supposed to work. I certainly haven't done it accidentally.

  3. Re:universal clipboard wtf by berj · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) nothing goes to the internet.

    2) nothing will go to a machine/account that isn't signed in to the same icloud account.

    3) Calm down.. just turn Handoff off and you're good.

  4. "Allow apps" from only "sanctioned" sources now by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Informative

    I see in System Preferences, Security & Privacy, General, that Apple no longer thinks you have the right to run downloaded programs.

    The "( ) Anywhere" option has been completely hidden.

    Allow apps downloaded from

    ( ) Mac App Store
    ( ) Mac App Store and identified developers
    ( ) Anywhere <-- Now hidden!?

    WTF !

    Thankfully there is a way to disable this crap.

    sudo spctl --master-disable

    Reference:
    http://apple.stackexchange.com...

    1. Re:"Allow apps" from only "sanctioned" sources now by berj · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nothing in this update stops you from running unsigned apps if you so choose. You just can't (easily) set it to the default.. which is a good thing.

      If you want to run an unsigned app you you can just right click on the icon, select "open", respond to the dialog presented saying that you want to open this unsigned app.. and then every other time you open that app you can just double click on the icon.

      Easy peasy.

    2. Re:"Allow apps" from only "sanctioned" sources now by dfghjk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "You just can't (easily) set it to the default.. which is a good thing."

      I see no reason why this is a good thing.

      "Easy peasy."

      Not really. Certainly not "intuitive", definitely not "it just works".

      Once upon a time computers could be used to run the software of your choice. This is yet another step away from that. Not a good thing.

  5. Re:Pity my MacPro can't run it by Kryptonut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You obviously have no idea how much these machines costed when they were released - especially fully loaded. Why should I not expect it to be supported longer, given the premium they demand on the Mac Pro machines?

    Forced obsolescence of a perfectly capable, useful (and expensive) machine makes the Hackintosh camp a lot more appealing (mainly because of the apps I already have that are Mac only). Not to mention, the current Mac Pro's are very limited in how they can be customised after purchase.

    The (1,1) and (2,1) Mac Pros were retired because they had 32-bit EFI and the new OS's needed 64-bit EFI....a technical limitation. Most of the Macs I've had that have lost support have been because of a technical limitation (be it RAM limits, 32-bit only processors, Power CPU's). This instance is just plain greed.

    Microsoft obviously don't think the hardware is obsolete as Windows 10 runs flawlessly on mine in bootcamp for the Windows only stuff I do.

  6. Re:universal clipboard wtf by seoras · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's what having separate user accounts is for.
    There's no way I'd let my kids use anything that I was logged into.
    Your just asking for disaster.

    Airdrop has never worked well for me although hand off works very nicely.
    Uni-Clip sounds good, in theory, although I've yet to try it out.
    I'm still on El Capitan & iOS9 until the dust settles and the major bugs have been fixed.

  7. Re:universal clipboard wtf by brantondaveperson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most people are wrong.

    Create apple ID accounts for your kids, and gift them apps if they need stuff. Create gmail accounts for your kids, so they can have their own email addresses. Put credit card information in neither, of course. Put two factor on everything, because kids always choose crap passwords, and make sure you store those passwords somewhere safe because kids can't remember anything. This makes life far, far, simpler. Having one account seems simple at first, but rapidly becomes a nightmare.

    The idea of having my kids signed into my apple ID on their devices (which they have to have for school, by the way, before you start telling me that kids shouldn't own iPads etc) is a terrible one. A friend of mine managed to allow her kid to run up huge bills, precisely because she'd used her own apple ID on her kids ipad, and the kid bought $500 of in-game nonsense without her knowledge.

  8. Re:universal clipboard wtf by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Informative

    How does it get between machines logged-in to the same iCloud account if not through the Internet?

    Bluetooth and/or local WiFi. The WiFi login isn't used for communication between the devices, but only for pairing the devices together locally (that is, the devices find each other via Bluetooth and/or WiFi on the local network. A handshake is done to verify that both have successfully authenticated against the same account ID on iCloud. Then local communications is permitted. iCloud isn't involved in the data transfer, nor in the setup of a communications channel between devices).

    Yaz

  9. Re: universal clipboard wtf by Dog-Cow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A lot of things seem dumb until you actually learn about it and stop spouting from ignorance. Use the feature. Learn how it works, and then rant about it. I know it's not the slashdot way, but at least you'll seem less dumb.