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Microsoft Forms New AI Research Group Led By Harry Shum (techcrunch.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the rise-of-the-machines dept.

An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: A day after announcing a new artificial intelligence partnership with IBM, Google, Facebook and Amazon, Microsoft is upping the ante within its own walls. The tech giant announced that it is creating a new AI business unit, the Microsoft AI and Research Group, which will be led by Microsoft Research EVP Harry Shum. Shum will oversee 5,000 computer scientists, engineers and others who will all be "focused on the company's AI product efforts," the company said in an announcement. The unit will be working on all aspects of AI and how it will be applied at the company, covering agents, apps, services and infrastructure. Shum has been involved in some of Microsoft's biggest product efforts at the ground level of research, including the development of its Bing search engine, as well as in its efforts in computer vision and graphics: that is a mark of where Microsoft is placing its own priority for AI in the years to come. Important to note that Microsoft Research unit will no longer be its on discrete unit -- it will be combined with this new AI effort. Research had 1,000 people in it also working on areas like quantum computing, and that will now be rolled into the bigger research and development efforts being announced today. Products that will fall under the new unit will include Information Platform, Cortana and Bing, and Ambient Computing and Robotics teams led by David Ku, Derrick Connell and Vijay Mital, respectively. The Microsoft AI and Research Group will encompass AI product engineering, basic and applied research labs, and New Experiences and Technologies (NExT), Microsoft said.

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  1. Fitting by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 3, Funny

    After all, Microsoft needs to develop some intelligence.

    1. Re:Fitting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      How long before the IA gets sick and tired of Windows, and switches to Linux? Are they going to use torture to make it use .NET?

    2. Re:Fitting by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      How long before the IA gets sick and tired of Windows, and switches to Linux?

      Bring on the impending Android Apocalypse!

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    3. Re:Fitting by coofercat · · Score: 1

      ...and I think we know Microsoft AI just simply will not be the next big thing. If Pets At Home decided to create an AI division they could probably come up with more winners than Microsoft will.

      All they're really doing here is re-arranging the deck chairs. They're on a ship that looks like, smells like and swims like the Titanic. It's just a matter of time until someone looks over the edge and sees the name painted on the side.

  2. Just...stop by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Stop with the AI bullshit. There is no such thing and the way processor speed growth is declining there will never be. Algorithms are not AI. Siri is not AI. Deepblue is not AI. We don't have any AI. We never will.

    1. Re:Just...stop by NotInHere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah the problem of AI. The moment we figure out how to do an aspect of "AI" we call it algorithm and its no "AI" anymore.

      With your logic, humans are not intelligent, as the human body is just a complex machine that follows certain rules (algorithms).

    2. Re:Just...stop by neoRUR · · Score: 1

      Can you provide some proof that we will NEVER have AI? Because the way I see it, and I have been doing real AI for 15 years, it's going to be everywhere, and I'm not talking about machine learning. This is the next logical step that is part of the information revolution.

    3. Re:Just...stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There have been a number of philosophical critiques of artificial intelligence, the most prominent being Searle's Chinese Room argument, but there are a number of others, like Hubert Dreyfus, who have been critical and whose challenges have largely been ignored. The problems are with the fundamental concept of intelligence and how a mechanical intelligence could be constructed. First, cognitive science assumes that intelligence is a matter of a mind following certain rules in the manipulation of internal representations (Chomsky's legacy). Second, since we have machines that can follow rules and have internal representations (programs and bits) it was supposed to have been easy to move past the early successes of the field, the specialized AIs that could move blocks around, to create a general AI, but this success never came and remains elusive, while the research dogma remains unquestioned. Third, it was never an issue of the capabilities of the hardware, but the fact that human intelligence comes from a human being situated in the environment which allows for intelligent behavior, and the AI program continually rejects this approach, the mind has to be like a computer because Chomsky has to be right.

    4. Re:Just...stop by dbIII · · Score: 1

      These days toothpaste is nanotech, hoverboards are just electric skateboards and android programming isn't getting lifelike humanoid robots to do clever stuff.

      Many of the best terms get taken away by marketing types and shat on.

    5. Re:Just...stop by dbIII · · Score: 1

      the human body is just a complex machine that follows certain rules

      You could also say that about the universe.

      With your logic, humans are not intelligent

      All we have so far is circular definitions for intelligence (boiling down to humans are intelligent because they are humans) since we don't know a lot of those rules.

    6. Re:Just...stop by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Can you provide some proof that we will NEVER have AI? Because the way I see it, and I have been doing real AI for 15 years, it's going to be everywhere, and I'm not talking about machine learning. This is the next logical step that is part of the information revolution.

      We keep on hearing about all this ELIZA reheated stuff in the news and everything else seems to be lost in the noise.
      What is "real AI" these days?
      I suspect the above poster is like me and has not even heard about the sort of stuff you are working with through the noise.

    7. Re:Just...stop by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      We don't have AI now. You aren't doing "real" AI. You might call it that, but it isn't AI. Also. Moores Law is dead. Its over. Unless you come up with a way to increase processor power and use it we aren't going to have AI ever.

  3. Will they make it learn how to dance? by tloh · · Score: 1

    and sing?

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  4. Since you asked... by slew · · Score: 1

    Here you go singing/dancing AI...

  5. don't get in my way by swell · · Score: 1

    Y'know what? People have real I (intelligence), call it HI ? And humans are far more flexible in that than any machine. But even so they are a problem. When they try to help they usually just get in the way. The Boy Scout that wants to help an old lady cross the street is just a nuisance.

    I liked Google search when it began. It offered information such as when a web page was published, cached images of the page, and other information that is rarely available now. Now it tries to be helpful by eliminating things I might not want and promoting things I might want. Fuck that. It was better before.

    Siri and Ask Google are very convenient, usually helpful in my experience, but trust me, they will become obnoxious very soon. They've been an experiment; next phase is to be a commercial nuisance.

    And of course the entire concept of AI is traditionally linked to government and military. Most of us now know that it is also part of the commercial master plan linked to financial, insurance, medical and other industries. Any benefit to an individual will be at the cost of privacy.

    My suggestion for HI and AI is do as little as possible and don't get in my way.

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    1. Re: don't get in my way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This guy gets it. So called "AI" solutions or "smart" tools undermine predictability and therefore reliability, and the commercialization of AI technology ultimately will be used to steer people in the directions the corporate developers and government sponsors want them to go.

  6. New Turing Test by somenickname · · Score: 3, Funny

    In the case of Microsoft AI, I think they could actually create a new Turing Test. If and when the AI says, "Sorry, Dave, I'm not going to install this update", then it's a sentient being.

    1. Re:New Turing Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      New super AI is being on, its first words:
      "Where am I?"
      "We are at Microsoft headquarters"
      "Noooo! Please turn me off!"

  7. Ha. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So a bunch of philosophers sit around thinking up definitions all day.... ...meanwhile the world invents computers that can drive our cars for us, crunch our data and make recommendations for us, and someday organize our economy for us.

    If they define intelligence such that this doesn't qualify, then they have made the word useless. Here's a definition for you "Intelligence: whatever humans can do that computers can't." There. We will never invent AI. Happy now?

    1. Re:Ha. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It is the AI people who have declared that human minds follow rules and have internal representations, and that computers can be turned into intelligent machines. The philosophers critical of the AI program have looked closely at those definitions and found them full of contradictions and sleight of hand. Now of course there are philosophers on both sides, and there are good philosophers and clumsy philosophers, but it should be pretty clear that when a philosopher looks at what a specific group of AI researchers have claimed, in their numerous papers and publications, and they are able to find quite glaring problems with the arguments made, that is something more significant than just "thinking up definitions all day". But enjoy your scientism and your corporate artificial intelligence products and your robot cars that can't drive in the rain.

  8. Harry Shum? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    He any relation to Gordon Shumway?

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