Slashdot Mirror


Senator Questions The Declassification Policies of America's National Intelligence Office (senate.gov)

America spent $16 billion on classifying documents last year, and Senator Wyden argues the process is now "too unwieldy to be truly secure... over-classification prevents effective information sharing between agencies." An anonymous Slashdot reader quotes the Senator's new announcement: The Reducing Over-Classification Act of 2010 allows government agencies to pay cash awards to employees who accurately classify government documents consistently and avoid unnecessary over-classification of information that is not a threat to national security. In response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the EFF, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence said it could not locate any records about the criteria for awarding those incentives.

"Congress included this provision...to reverse the culture of unnecessary classification, reduce the volume of classified documents, and better protect the secrets whose disclosure would truly threaten national security," Wyden wrote [in a new letter to National Intelligence]. "I am concerned that federal agencies with the power to classify and declassify documents may not be taking advantage of these payment awards, and I believe doing so could benefit our national security."

16 of 28 comments (clear)

  1. Classification is used to cover bad actions by s.petry · · Score: 1

    Yes, it's a waste of Tax payer money which should be addressed. While we are addressing it lets investigate and open all of the invalid classifications used to hide activity that the public may want. In addition, criminal actions should be prosecuted by ALL people exposed, and bad actors need to be removed from offices and positions. While the latter issue is allowed the former will never be addressed. It has become too convenient for politicians to hide, but we have also created a dual form of Justice where the wealthy and politicians are immune to law.

    --

    -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    1. Re:Classification is used to cover bad actions by sydbarrett74 · · Score: 2

      Exactly. Plausible deniability is the actual goal. If it benefits national security, that's purely ancillary.

      --
      'He who has to break a thing to find out what it is, has left the path of wisdom.' -- Gandalf to Saruman
    2. Re:Classification is used to cover bad actions by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

      So in short, because someone asked why an incentive program isn't useful, you want a witch-hunt to kill off anything you don't like, without any consideration for context.

      It just seems so obvious that running a bulldozer through an in-place operational government is the best way to improve efficiency and integrity.

      --
      You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
    3. Re:Classification is used to cover bad actions by rholtzjr · · Score: 2
      There are instances where bulldozing an area allows a clean start. I agree that somethings may end up in the refuse pile that shouldn't

      However the existing programs that are in place have been altered to do exactly as the previous comments.

      In other words, the weeds have overtaken the garden.

    4. Re:Classification is used to cover bad actions by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      It just seems so obvious that running a bulldozer through an in-place operational government is the best way to improve efficiency and integrity.

      That's been the Republican plan since, oh.... 2008

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    5. Re:Classification is used to cover bad actions by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      There are instances where bulldozing an area allows a clean start. I agree that somethings may end up in the refuse pile that shouldn't

      However the existing programs that are in place have been altered to do exactly as the previous comments.

      In other words, the weeds have overtaken the garden.

      Kinda like how well the Arab Spring worked.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    6. Re:Classification is used to cover bad actions by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Now they need to do a FOI request for how many people and how much money was given out to people who classified things correctly. Just having no criteria to judge it is no hindrance to give out money for doing it.

      --
      Sleep your way to a whiter smile...date a dentist!
  2. Except that it is a gov employee's job by El+Cubano · · Score: 1

    The Reducing Over-Classification Act of 2010 allows government agencies to pay cash awards to employees who accurately classify government documents consistently and avoid unnecessary over-classification of information that is not a threat to national security.

    This sounds suspiciously like the "Bribing Wally" Dilbert strips from earlier this week: 1 and 2.

    I mean seriously a law that says "we will pay you more money to not break other laws and do the job you were hired to do" speaks volumes about how messed up the US government is. Why not try something different, perhaps? Like, when a law is broken or a policy violated then the individual or people responsible are held accountable and administrative or punitive measures are taken. Clinton certainly won't do anything at all to fix that, and Trump only has a marginally higher likelihood (if only because both Republicans and Democrats hate him and will dig in like petulant children rather than work with him).

    I really wish that it looked like there was a tenable solution to this, but it doesn't appear like anything will change meaningfully in any of our lifetimes.

    1. Re:Except that it is a gov employee's job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      it doesn't appear like anything will change meaningfully in any of our lifetimes.

      I'm with you in the idea that it won't get meaningfully better in our lifetimes. However, it is quite possible (perhaps inevitable?) that things will meaningfully get worse.

    2. Re:Except that it is a gov employee's job by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The fact that the Democrats and Republicans are so hated this election cycle as well as main stream media being treated as nothing but propaganda, is a pretty solid indication change is happening, real change and the psychopathic scam artists at the top are losing and the panic is spreading. The off the top stupid waffle coming from the establishment, blaming the Russians and China and who next 'Anonymous', for the current election hot mess, of public blatant fraud and corruption on show, is pretty much proof that the empire of lobbyists and corporate executives is coming apart at the seams and you ain't seen nothing yet.

      --
      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
  3. A way to make information "someone else's budget" by Marillion · · Score: 1

    When Sequestration 2013 was threatening a project, the head of the project was speculating about what would happen to the data from the project. He said, "If we get all this data classified then someone has to pay to protect it."

    --
    This is a boring sig
  4. When everything is classified, nothing is by Snotnose · · Score: 2

    In the mid-90s we had a department wide meeting discussing care and disposal of company confidential documents. Actually, it was the VP blathering along for some 30 minutes with the rest of us wishing smartphones had been invented already. At the end he asked for comments. I raised my hand, then said "It's hard to take it seriously when even the cafeteria weekly menu is marked confidential".

    He said he'd look into it, nothing changed, when I left a few years later the menus were still considered company confidential.

  5. Worried they aren't taking advantage of rewards? by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure that every penny of that reward money was claimed and given to someone, and since they don't have a criteria, it is impossible to track fraud. I bet anything it was spent just fine, but not on what it was intended for.

    --
    Tequila: It's not just for breakfast anymore!
  6. So now is is down to this ... by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 1

    The Reducing Over-Classification Act of 2010 allows government agencies to pay cash awards to employees who accurately classify government documents consistently ...

    So it is down to paying government employees bribes to actually do the job they are hired to do ... Why not fine the ones that over classify the information instead ...

    And such plans actually don't work.

    --
    - Tjp

    I am in wallow with my inner money grubbing capitalistic pig. ... Oink!

  7. Interesting timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The Obama admin has been in charge for 7+ years. During the first couple, the Democrats also held the House (by super-majority) and the Senate (by super-majority) and were able to pass ANYTHING without any Republican votes and the Republicans did not even have enough Senate seats for a fillibuster. The Democrats chose to ram-through Obamacars, a nearly 1 trillion dollar stimulus, an auto indusrty take-over, the take-over of all student loans, new banking regulations that have made the wall st banks even too bigger to fail [bad grammar intended] and thousands of new rules and regulations on American citizens and businesses.

    A simple one-page bill on this was not on the agenda.

    Now, however, whith their Presidential cadidate being damaged by her certified-by-the-FBI-as-extremely-reckless handling of classified info and her year-long mountain of lieas about it causing real damage to her campaign, one of her hard left buddies in congress is making noise that too much stuff is classified. This is political. The Message Wyden is now sending is the Extension of Hillary's lies:

    She and her State Department first lied to the courts and the citizens filing FOIA requests with the claim that there WERE no e-mails.

    Then she lied and said the e-mails were just personal

    Then she lied and said the server was just for convenience so that she only needed to carry one device.

    Then she lied and said she turned over all her work e-mails

    Then she lied and said there were no classified e-mails

    Then she lied and said none of the e-mails were "maked classified"

    Then she claimed she did not understand the classified marking, even though she was trained to.

    Then she claimed to the FBI that her falland brain injury made her forget her security training

    NONE of these lies and deceits have worked to diffuse the political damage, so..... now Wyden steps in with:

    Good Golly! The government classifies too much! That stuff Hillary mishandlled should not have been classified in the first place!

    The voters are not supposed to remember that what she did was a pack of felonies, and that the specific law violated has no requirement that intent be a consideration, since it was written to punish and deter even recklessness with national security info.

  8. Re:Only $16 billion? by Plus1Entropy · · Score: 1

    You know that both of those numbers; how much is spent, and how much is collected in tax revenues, are determined by Congress, not the President, right?

    --
    Only crack the nuts that crack. You don't put the ones that don't crack in the sack.