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WikiLeaks' Big Tuesday Announcement Will Now Take Place Via Video (thehill.com)

Long-time Slashdot reader SonicSpike writes that media outlets including Fox News were reporting WikiLeaks cancelled a big announcement scheduled for Tuesday and expected to reveal damaging information about Hillary Clinton. But they were all citing a tweet from NBC as their source. "Due to security concerns at the Ecuadorian Embassy, Julian Assange's balcony announcement on Tues has been cancelled," tweeted NBC producer Jesse Rodriguez -- which was apparently taken to mean the announcement had been cancelled altogether.

But six hours ago, citing WikiLeaks, that same producer reported that Assange "will appear via video link" at a Tuesday press conference in Berlin marking the 10th anniversary of WikiLeaks. While it's possible this "appearance" will be different than the originally scheduled "announcement," it also seems very possible that the NBC producer's tweets were just misunderstood.

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  1. Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This post has no content whatsoever. Maybe if Assange actually reveals something new it might be worth an article, but this seems an article that should have been rejected as content free.

    1. Re:Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is going to be a video link ON THE INTERNET, Mr. Coward. Do you not realize the importance of such an achievement?

    2. Re:Why is this here? by quantaman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Gotta push Trump. Slashdot is owned by Dice.com which has numerous ties to the Trump business empire. Just another in a long line of Clinton hit pieces pushed by slashdot and many other sites.

      Any evidence for this? I've noticed /. has had a weirdly pro-Trump anti-Clinton stream of stories but I assumed that was due to Assange fanboyism and Trump supporters hammering the submission queue.

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    3. Re:Why is this here? by ShaunC · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dice sold Slashdot in January. There does seem to be quite a pro-Trump agenda here lately, but that isn't Dice's fault (anymore).

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    4. Re:Why is this here? by Microlith · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep. Who knew a supposedly smart techie readership could be taken in by a con man like Trump?

    5. Re:Why is this here? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "HIllary's husband cheated on her, so I'm voting for Trump"?

      Oh yes, THAT makes PERFECT sense. *eyeroll*

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    6. Re:Why is this here? by disccomp · · Score: 2

      As opposed to who Trump would name to the Supreme Court. Sorry, that is one of the things that worries me the most about Trump being elected, that the court will swing too far to the right. At least I believe Hillary would pick moderates and maintain the status quo in most respects.

    7. Re: Why is this here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      She victim shamed a rape accuser, thats different.

    8. Re:Why is this here? by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What has Robby Mook said about Assange?

      I assume you actually mean Bob Beckel. Not only is he not Clinton's campaign manager, Snopes can't find any evidence that he's ever even worked as a Clinton strategist in any capacity. Maybe if you dig hard enough you might find some sort of "three degrees of separation" thing to damn her with, though, so you should probably get started.

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    9. Re:Why is this here? by William+Baric · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm Canadian. Apart from Canadian and US media, I also regularly read news from Le Monde and Le Figaro, Al Jazeera, Russia Today and China Daily. My conclusion? All media are doing an enormous amount of propaganda. You may prefer left-wing propaganda over right-wing propaganda, you may prefer pro-establishment propaganda over anti-establishment propaganda, but it is propaganda nonetheless.

    10. Re:Why is this here? by ravenshrike · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hillary's husband regularly cheats on her and allegedly raped some women, Hillary's response has been to stand by him and while he was POTUS savagely attack his accusers.

    11. Re: Why is this here? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Both are biased, but only one has gone to court to argue that they are not required to tell the truth (and won) in things that they present as news.

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    12. Re:Why is this here? by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Regarding Snopes, I now only trust them for debunking trivial, stupid internet meme type things, and not at all when it comes to politics (or much of anything serious for that matter). They are extremely biased in favor of Clinton and "debunk" things without any actual proof or showing contradictory evidence whatsoever. It is totally meaningless that Snopes can't happen to find evidence portraying Clinton negatively.

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    13. Re:Why is this here? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If Snopes and other fact checkers are repeatedly saying things you disagree with and don't like, you may want to consider that the problem is on your end. Rather than bash Snopes maybe you can supply what you think is relevant evidence. Do you either have any evidence that Robby Mook said anything of the sort, or have any evidence that Bock Becket worked for Hillary's campaign?

    14. Re:Why is this here? by HBI · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We also must take into account that the payouts to Clinton's "bimbo" "accusers" amount in the millions at this point. Certainly justifies some quotes around the words used to describe them, and also qualifies the "alleged" nature of the offenses. People don't usually pay out large sums on BS charges.

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    15. Re:Why is this here? by quantaman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I haven't noticed a pro-Trump stance from Slashdot stories (and commentors). However I have definitely noticed a very strong anti-Hillary tone here at Slashdot, which at first was very surprising. However, I think that stems from the fact that the typical Slashdotter better understands the ramifications and details of the whole email server thing than the general populace. Most of the strong political opinions I'm seeing here are in that regard, and seem to originate from the private email server.

      So any pro-Trump leaning is really anti-Hillary. Which is pretty much how this election is working out in general - who hates which candidate the least.

      Possibly, though I think the better explanation might have to do with Hillary's self-identification as a feminist. Just read any post regarding feminism and see all the people railing against "SJWs". I think gender is still very relevant for a lot of people.

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    16. Re: Why is this here? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2

      Boy. In any other context, you'd probably be railing about 'defining rape down to the point of meaninglessness'. But if it's a Clinton...

      The primary 'victims' of Hillary's supposed 'blaming the victim' were Gennifer Flowers, who conducted a consensual sexual relationship and then sold her story to the tabloids. And Monica Lewinsky, who basically flirted with a married man, fell in love, and they cried on the shoulder of Linda Tripp, who betrayed her royally. That Hillary chose to defend her husband rather than stand in feminist solidarity with these 'victims', is pretty understandable - in the light of the forces trying to undermine Bill, and yes, in the light of both of their ambitions.

      Perhaps in another place or time, sexual infidelity would be a disqualifier. A pretty hypocritical one, but nontheless... But Trump? Really?

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    17. Re:Why is this here? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2

      Judging from your signature, the only constitutional protection you're worried about is your right to shoot birds - which, by the way, nobody is advocating for taking away, no matter how much you whine that they are.

      Well, the constitution covers a few other areas that Slashdotters might just care about. Like the preference of one-person-one-vote democracy over an interpretation of freedom of speech that considers The American Enterprise Institute as a charitable organization. And of course, while the SC doesn't design intellectual property law, it does get to be the referee of last resort in related disputes. So it's not out of the question to imagine the likes of Antonin Scalia weighing in on the patentability of API's, etc...

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    18. Re: Why is this here? by porksauce · · Score: 3, Informative

      Do you have any citation for that? The only one I found was on Snopes where they're saying it's False.

    19. Re: Why is this here? by LDAPMAN · · Score: 2

      Why just cherry pick two from the long list? You convent ignore the multiple accusers who claim it was not consensual. For example, Juanita Broderick

    20. Re: Why is this here? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 2

      Ah, I love political topics. In no other area on Slashdot do ACs get upmodded for saying things like "Fuck off, shill." To be clear: no one is claiming that agendas don't exist. But if one has repeatedly the same reactions to multiple respected fact-checkers, the problem may not be on the fact checker's side.

    21. Re: Why is this here? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2

      I picked them because they're the ones where Hillary's supposedly on the record for slut-shaming them. And that was the topic I was responding to.

      They're also the only two where the accusations were borne out by, y'know, evidence.

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  2. Security Concerns by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

    The primary security concern is the balcony not being big enough or strong enough to support Julian's ego.

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    1. Re:Security Concerns by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, with Hillary talking about drone strikes on Assange, staying indoors may be the smartest thing to do...

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    2. Re:Security Concerns by Lisandro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey, it's on the internet. It must be true.

    3. Re:Security Concerns by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Funny

      The primary security concern is the balcony not being big enough or strong enough to support Julian's ego.

      Of course with a video stream, h.264 compression might have some difficulties handling that as well.

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    4. Re:Security Concerns by Rei · · Score: 2

      What, you don't trust reporting that only traces back to "truepundit.com" and their anonymous "sources"? Come on, next you're going to tell me that I can't lose 10 pounds in two weeks by following this one weird trick.

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    5. Re:Security Concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      .. or your sense of denial.

      DNC staffers getting shot in the back in public parks following leaks of DNC emails, and no one steals their wallet.... and no one asks questions.

      And to top it all off, the DNC has the unbridled chutzpah to call it all "conspiracy theory"... after they got busted *conspiring* to keep Sanders out of the race!

      We need to retire the term "consipiracy theory". It doesn't mean what they think it means.

    6. Re:Security Concerns by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I thought it wasn't big enough for your stupidity....

      Wow, sick burn, dude. I don't think chill (34294) will ever recover from that witty reposte.

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    7. Re:Security Concerns by dohzer · · Score: 2

      Pfft. Everyone know's ego is a lighter-than-air gas.
      That's why so much hot air keeps escaping from his mouth.
      The real issue is the strength of the tie-down points.

    8. Re:Security Concerns by Frank+Burly · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is so much wrong with this post in light of its being modded up. First, as every /.er but you and the moduppers know: believing "sic hoc ergo propter hoc" is a hell of a way to go through life. A DNC staffer was murdered, but there is no reason to believe that he was in a position to know anything about the leaks—let alone that he was murdered because of them. Assange himself has refused to confirm that the murdered staffer was in any way connected to the leaks—and this would be a yuuuuge blockbuster. Given Assange's obvious cherrypicking and anti-Clinton agenda, it is fair to say that there is no "there" there.

      The notion that the DNC conspired to keep Sanders out of the race, or that they were "busted" doing so, is pure BS and not backed up by the emails or voicemails released by Assange. The DNC insiders were not happy about a non-Democrat fringe candidate from a tiny state potentially winning the nomination, but they didn't actually do anything to top him (except that before he or anyone but Clinton was a serious candidate they set the schedule up to benefit Clinton).

      So the AC below is correct: go back to Breitbart, troll.

  3. Breaking News: Julian Assange Commits Suicide by alternative_right · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Shot himself 13 times in the back. Hillary Clinton unvailable for comment and does not recall anyway.

  4. He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by alternative_right · · Score: 3, Interesting

    People hate authority. Most of them hate it simply because the authority they have experienced has not been just controlling, but also flagrantly stupid. Every public official is incompetent and they all want to tax you into oblivion and regulate minor details of behavior as life-changing events. Assange pushes back against authority. Even better, sometimes he nails really stupid authorities. We are all looking forward to whatever "October Surprise" he can cook up for The Establishment Candidate.

    1. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by Powercntrl · · Score: 4, Informative

      We are all looking forward to whatever "October Surprise" he can cook up for The Establishment Candidate.

      Hillary may be part of the establishment, but Trump is a textbook example of the type of people the establishment works for. Trump supporters are like a bunch of cows who'd rather be herded by a slaughterhouse owner, solely because they've had bad experiences with farmers.

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    2. Re:He Is A Darling Of The Cyber Rebels by ogdenk · · Score: 2

      You might have a point except for the fact that a large chunk of the Nazi's ideology was inspired by what was going on in the US, they just took it to the next logical and more extreme level.

      Hatred of the Jews? Hitler really enjoyed Henry Ford's "The International Jew" publications as well as other American anti-Semitic literature.

      Treating black folks as sub-human? Yeah, we were great at that. Even when they gained meager rights they were considered 3/5ths of a person.

      Medical Experimentation on "untermenschen", Eugenics work, forced sterilization? Yeah, we did that too and many US scientific papers were published on the subject. We even infected whole communities with syphilis.

      Mistreatment and sterilization of the mentally ill? Check. We just didn't outright euthanize them.

      The only major difference is we didn't gas the untermenschen. We preferred to just hang them from light posts for minor infractions like if they dared whistle at white women. Even their expansion into Russia and killing off the natives was inspired by our conquest of the land and extermination of most native Americans to give ourselves more living space.

      The general public opinion in the US of the Nazis for a long time was that they were "firm but fair". Trump actually would resonate well with 1930's/1940's American voters and it's easy to see why many baby boomers adore his stupid ass.

  5. Not sure what else there is to reveal by ErichTheRed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We already have the email issue, the Clinton Foundation issue, the fact that the DNC intentionally torpedoed her rival in the primary, etc. I can't see anything else left to reveal that would be any more damaging at this point.

    My feeling on both sides is that people should be grown up enough to realize that all politicians aren't "normal people." They have immense power, immense wealth, and are masters at manipulating people to get things they need done. The only reason we didn't hear about their inner circle of dealings in the past is because we didn't used to have every news agency in the country camped out on their doorsteps 24/7 listening to them breathe, or idiotic staffers who can't seem to get their heads around secure email and computer networks. I think we're actually lucky in the US in terms of the level of corruption in our political system..many more countries have it much worse.

    Seriously, anyone who voluntarily goes out seeking political office is not normal, plain and simple. You can't expect them to act like regular people. Corporate executives fall into this category too -- most executives live on another planet compared to us in terms of their daily walk through life. You're just not going to get a regular person as a politician or an executive. Trying to hold them to standards like that just breeds disappointment and discontent.

    1. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The law doesn't matter if you're rich and powerful? We're supposed to hand over the presidency to a corrupt, irresponsible, greedy career politician who's working hard behind the scenes to dick over regular plebs like us all because Trump called someone fat 20 years ago (or whatever the trumped-up (lol) scandal of the moment is)?

      People haven't been accepting this state of affairs for the last 3000 years because they were "grown up enough" to accept it, it was because the powerful had sufficient control over the world to more effectively keep the truth from the public. Thanks to technology this is no longer the case.

      Maybe Trump's an asshole, but I'll take an asshole over someone who's actively working against me.

    2. Re:Not sure what else there is to reveal by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The "email issue" continues to be a nothing to see. At worst they show a slight lack of misjudgements over technical issues.

      Sure, other than the part where she deliberately chose to avoid federal record keeping laws, deleted federal records while under subpoena, and handled highly sensitive data (WAY more than merely "classified") with a recklessness that can and HAS put people in prison many times, even just this year. Lack of judgement? Her poor judgement was in her foolishly thinking she wouldn't get caught. But she did correctly judge that the same administration that has prosecuted other people for FAR less severe violations would protect her from the same consequences. Which is exactly what they've done, repeatedly.

      The Clinton Foundation is a highly respected charity

      Yes, highly respected by the people who give it money in order to buy influence with the Clintons. Highly respected by the family and friends of the Clintons who get fat paychecks, consulting contracts, and perks from the foundation as it spends well over 90% of the money it rakes in on paychecks for those favored employees and on things like travel perks and "administrative" expenses. Less than 6% of the huge pile of cash they take in from foreign dictators and civil rights abusers goes towards any sort of charity activity in any form. But since you're a fan of hers, and are clearly willing to overlook her serial lies and parade of corruption, I can see why you'd consider that arrangement to be "highly respectable." Sure, of course.

      The DNC's behavior in the primaries was seriously bad, and I'm disgusted Clinton rewarded DWS with a job in her campaign, but frankly it's the DNC, not Clinton or her campaign.

      Your attempt to draw a distinction between these two entities is so cute. Darling.

      But thus far, what's been thrown at Clinton has been stupid, seen only as "damaging" if you hate Clinton so much you'd latch onto a spelling mistake as evidence she's unfit for government.

      No. What she's thrown at herself is so damaging that if she didn't have the active protection of the Obama administration she would be, like other people who have done far, far less, already indicted and likely convicted of multiple federal felonies.

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  6. Something to get her indicted by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We already have the email issue, the Clinton Foundation issue, the fact that the DNC intentionally torpedoed her rival in the primary, etc. I can't see anything else left to reveal that would be any more damaging at this point.

    He has said that the next dump contains evidence that will get Hillary Clinton indicted.

    I'm quite anxious to see what it is.

    Perhaps an early Christmas present for the American people!

    1. Re:Something to get her indicted by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hell, the email dump her lawyers gave the FBI contained enough for her to be indicted.

      True.

      There are dozens of military members in Leavenworth for similar offenses.

      No, there are people in military prison for doing FAR LESS.

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    2. Re:Something to get her indicted by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, the military still puts people in prison for marijuana possession.

      Nice attempt at deflection. We're talking about people being put in prison because having a piece of equipment in the background of a selfie is considered such a grave example of negligence in the handling of sensitive material that it's worth locking someone up. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, deliberately conveys way-more-than-just-classified material to her uncleared staff and lawyers, storing it in private offices and homes ... and her negligence (despite negligence being the statute's standard for conviction) is considered inconsequential by the only entity that could indict her for it - the Obama administration that is actively supporting her candidacy. Trying to compare this to controlled substance trafficking while on duty in the military is absurd.

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  7. Hopefully by dohzer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hopefully they don't reveal Trump's tax return, because that will make Hillary look like an idiot for paying tax. Genius
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    1. Re:Hopefully by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, check out Hillary's 2015 tax return, page 17. She's using exactly the same carried loss maneuver to avoid paying taxes. Just like the New York Times does.

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    2. Re:Hopefully by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Informative
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  8. Re:Repent and be saved. by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Informative

    No matter what year it is over the last 2000 years, some nut thinks it's the Apocalypse.

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  9. Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by dfenstrate · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... the problem is that too few care. She's on the same 'D' team as 80% of the media, so every incompetent or corrupt act is explained away by legions of sycophants.

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    1. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by mvdwege · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Have you even considered that what you think is 'everyone' might be wrong?

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    2. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, on one hand, we have the FBI listing facts that support a criminal indictment, then mysteriously deciding that in spite of the law being against negligence, they would have to prove intent, when any normal person can go look at a dictionary and find out that this is, in fact, a literal contradiction in terms:

      "Negligence (Lat. negligentia, from neglegere, to neglect, literally "not to pick up something") is a failure to exercise the care that a reasonably prudent person would exercise in like circumstances. The area of tort law known as negligence involves harm caused by carelessness, not intentional harm."

      But it's fine, you've got insults on your side! It's okay, I'm sure that reality is magically biased in your favor, so there's no need to bother with trivial things like facts. Everyone who disagrees with you is a bad person and that means they're automatically wrong.

    3. Re:Everyone knows Hillary Clinton is a criminal... by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's really no need to consider that option.

      Yes, I know. Thinking is hard. Regurgitating Breitbart is easier.

      It's always fun to watch the deflection attempts, in place of a single coherent response on the subject matter.

      People are in prison - more, newly this year - for doing far, far less than Clinton in simple neglect surrounding sensitive material. You know this. It's public record type stuff. You can't not know it, you can only pretend you don't know it. So the question is: why are you pretending to be dumb in order to support your lying, corrupt candidate? Why do you think that's a good thing? It's an odd position to take if you're trying to be persuasive.

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  10. Re:Here's a good question: by Rei · · Score: 2

    No. Nothing has ever been "scrapped"; every court hearing (and there've been many), both in the UK and Sweden, at all levels (including the Supreme Courts of both countries), has gone against him. What did happen was that the statute of limitations on the lesser charges ran out. The statute of limitations on the rape charge doesn't run out until 2020.

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  11. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Because the poster knew what the fuck he was talking about, maybe?

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  12. Re:Here's a good question: by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

    Or it could just be that Assange is a prima donna.

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  13. Re:How did this crap get modded up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I generally agree with denouncing the supporter bashing, no matter victim or source. However this is an apt allegory. Either we get the slaughterhouse owner, or we get the farmer that is chained via purse strings to the slaughterhouse owner. To think that one is better than the other from a steer's view is folly.

    That's American Politics.

  14. Re:Here's a good question: by ScentCone · · Score: 2

    Fascinating! Please provide your citations. And also your explanation as to why the US, with all of it's intelligence agencies and cloak and dagger horsepower, hasn't killed him 20 times by now, if that's what they wanted. What is it - the hyper-powerful android security guards in the Ecuadorian embassy that are thwarting all of those assassination attempts? No? I see. I know ... maybe you're just delusional. Yes, that makes more sense.

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  15. Re:Repent and be saved. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you are not well-read in the Bible you will not understand what is happening to the world. It is both an exhilarating and terrifying time to be alive. I look across the world and see so many lost souls rejecting love and truth in favor of lies and hate. Unless we are capable of a perfect life lived before a perfect God, the blood of Jesus is our only salvation. Seek him while you can...

    Wrong! #CrookedJesus is a big loser and also a Jew (which is fine) but believe me, he had terrible ratings. Terrible ratings. And he didn't have my temperament and stamina. If you want to be messiah, you've got to have stamina. I said, stamina. I prefer my messiahs not to get captured by Romans and crucified, all right? Sad!

    I was going to say something very rough about Jesus and a prostitute. Very rough. But I'm not going to go there, all right?

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  16. Re:Here's a good question: by quenda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    why the US, ... hasn't killed him 20 times by now,

    Ask Fidel Castro.

  17. Re:Here's a good question: by Rei · · Score: 2, Informative

    The fact is that the UK has been told they have to not only allow him his freedom, but have to also compensate him for the illegal detention they've put him under.

    By a nonbinding body (WGAD) that rules in favour of almost all plaintiffs that come before it (usually unanimously, unlike in this case). Both the UK and Sweden have stated the WGAD ruling will have no bearing on the case at hand. Assange raised it in his most recent appeal with the Swedish courts (yet another in a long row of them). He lost.

    The fact is that Sweden has and can interview him in the embassy, and were dragging their feet (read:political corruption).

    Read: Ecuador is demanding that Sweden sign some sort of treaty - the exact details of which have not been publicly disclosed by either side - before they'll allow the prosecutors in, something that Sweden is against. This has been a stalemate for the past 16 months. Before that, Sweden had been insisting on the interview taking place in Sweden in order to follow the standard Swedish process, which is: 1) the initial investigatory phase is carried out, including any interviews 2) if the prosecutor believes charges to be likely and the subject will not voluntarily enter custody, the prosecutor recommends to a judge that the subject be formally anklagad (suspected of/charged with a crime); 3) the judge issues a warrant and the subject is brought into custody; 4) the subject is interviewed (for a second time, if there were interviews conducted in the initial phase), with every matter they are to be charged with put be put forth to them; 5) the subject is formally åtalad (charged/indicted); this begins a time limit on when the subject must be tried (although it can be extended if there are conditions that prevent the person from being tried immediately); and 6) the subject is tried (this cannot occur in absentia). As a general rule, while investigatory interviews are conducted anywhere, final interviews are conducted in Swedish custody, so that if the person is åtalad there is no risk that they could escape trial. This was the route sought by prosecutor Ny up until 2015, when - due to the shortage of time remaining on the lesser charges, and criticism from a lower court for her not seeking less conventional options to try to break the deadlock, Ny sought an interview in the Ecuadorian embassy. The deadlock on this latter issue remains to this day.

    The anklagad/åtalad distinction has often been a stumbling ground in the english-speaking press because it doesn't directly map to stages in US or British legal systems, which generally only recognize one stage of charging, while Sweden has two (one to bring a subject into custody, and one to initiate a trial). However, there is significant jurisprudence that anklagad equates to being charged within the context of an EAW - whatever language one chooses to use for other contexts.

    A general summary of peer-reviewed rankings of the Swedish legal system on different aspects can be found here, more detailed information about what the categories mean and how they're assessed here (extremely detailed here and here) , and more detailed information in general here.

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  18. Re: she will get very sick after winning if she is by ogdenk · · Score: 2

    What a load of crap.

    A train is out of control on a track. You have access to a switch that could send it to one track with 2 people on it, or another with 5. Those are the choices my friend. You don't get to say, "I'd fix the brakes", or call Superman. Your vote for Johnson will have the affect of rolling dice to decide which track the train takes - which, I suppose if you really think there's no difference between Clinton or Trump on any issue you care about, is rational.

    The lesser of two evils is still evil. I'm all for destroying the tracks ahead of the train and using the fallout from the deadly chaos as a good reason to lay new tracks and build a better and more reliable train. That way the out of control train is destroyed far away from my town where a trainwreck would be more catastrophic.

    In the ways most pertinent to me, this is choice of which disgusting tyranny I'd rather endure.... my answer is neither.

    But of course the thought that there's no difference is irrational in and of itself.

    At best, your point is that we need a different system for electing Presidents - and possibly a large turnout for Johnson might inch that into being. I'd say there are better ways - like electing Johnson (or Sanders, or Stein, or Nader)-like candidates to Congress or State legislatures from districts where they stand a chance of winning. And then changing the election system through a process that can actually do it. Because Presidencies have long-term repercussions, so they're best not used to 'send a message' when there are other, better ways.

    There's already around 600 libertarians in public office throughout the US, most of them in local or state government. Many Republicans have switched parties as well since the Republicans gradual shift toward becoming the "Christian Nationalist Party" became ever more apparent.

    Yes, presidencies have long term repercussions which is precisely why we need qualified people with actual experience governing in that position. Clinton has experience screwing up foreign policy and Trump has experience being a spoiled rich boy smart enough not to play games with his own money when driving businesses into the dirt. Neither of which are something we need to endure at this critical juncture. Both Johnson and Weld are popular 2-term governors with a track record of actual leaving their respective states FAR better off than when they started. And they are on the ballot in all 50 states. Hardly a fringe protest vote.

    If you think forcing a shitty destructive candidate down our throats simply to preserve a corrupt and dying 2 party system is "the better way" you are delusional, simply engaging in wishful thinking or just like to parrot popular views concocted to preserve a screwed up system.

    But, hey, if you like the current oligarchy feel free to waste your vote on one of those two weasels.