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Apple To Make macOS Sierra Available As Automatic Download Beginning Today (loopinsight.com)

Remember how Microsoft was pushing Windows 10 updates to your computers? That surely made a lot of people furious. Today, Apple told The Loop that it will also begin automatic download of its latest desktop operating system update, macOS Sierra on Macs that are compatible with the new software -- provided, automatic downloads are switched on and the Mac has enough storage space. From the report: t's important to note that this is not an automatic installer -- this process will only download the update in the background, and then alert you that it is available to install. You can choose to install it when its convenient. You can also choose to ignore the update. [...] Of course, you can manually delete the download if you don't wish to upgrade, and you can choose to manually download the update from the App Store at any time.

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  1. Re:Please file a bug report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can COMPLETELY disable that behavior by simply loading the App Store preferences, and unchecking:

    "Automatically check for updates".

    Bango, presto, shazam - NO MORE AUTOMATIC UPDATES.

    Jesus christ, are you really this thick?

  2. GPGTools does not yet work with Sierra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    An announcement on the front page of GPGTools.org: "IMPORTANT: GPGMail, our plugin for securing emails using GPG in Mail.app is not yet compatible with macOS Sierra. If you rely on GPGMail, please refrain from updating to macOS Sierra for the time being!" This is kind of important to me, so...

  3. Re:Where do I file for a refund of my data fees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or you can just turn off automatic updates. Don't be a drama queen.

  4. Re:Please file a bug report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, it disables all automatic application updates and alerting, because that is what the OP was bitching about.

    If you want to customize it more, then you enable "automatically check for updates," and select any combination of the four options provided:
    1) Download newly available updates in the background (You will be notified when updates are ready to install);
    2) Install app updates;
    3) Install OS X updates;
    4) Install system data files and security updates;

    You can turn on automatic checks, and disable all FOUR of those things, meaning you'll just receive alerts, and can pick and choose what to install; OR, you can opt to enable any combination of those features as you prefer.

    So no, you're not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, unless you choose to. Enabling the alerts is required - which seems sensible, given that you're asking the computer to automatically check for updates, and it's hard to know there's anything to do without enabling alerts. Beyond that, you don't have to download or install ANYTHING you don't want to.

  5. How is this similar to Windows 10? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Windows 10 update was a "Recommended Update" and not an optional one.
    Windows 10 changed the dialog box so that users had to specifically opt out of installing Windows 10.
    Windows 10 installed itself without warning.

    MacOS Sierra downloads if "Automatic Downloads" is enabled.
    Does not install automatically
    Users can ignore the download and not install

    Having worked with OS X machines, this behavior isn't new. As I remember that as far back as Mavericks that it downloaded only if Automatic Downloads was enabled. And it asked for permission to install. Before that, the new OS X showed up as a notification and that you had to run Apple Update to get it.

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    1. Re:How is this similar to Windows 10? by cristiroma · · Score: 3, Interesting

      To add to that, those M$ SOBs went as far as switching the order of the buttons to make you press it by mistake! http://fud.community.services....

    2. Re:How is this similar to Windows 10? by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Most of the haters here don't actually own a Mac to actually understand ...

      No, but they tried a Mac out for all of three minutes at their local Best Buy store and that makes them experts.

    3. Re:How is this similar to Windows 10? by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Informative

      I remember how astonished a friend of mine was when he ordered his brand new 2009 iMac and it had absolutely no adware whatsoever. He was blown away that there weren't 150 demo and trial softwares along with all the nag banners and bullshit you get with your typical windows box. He recently installed an SSD drive because the original HD was starting to make the death click noise and he says it's like he got a brand new computer. It seems faster than his wife's new windows laptop he says.

  6. Re: Please file a bug report by LDAPMAN · · Score: 2

    Automatically check and automatically download are two separate settings.

  7. What is so difficult about clicking "update"??? by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, because we should all make it as hard as possible to get security updates

    Turning on automatic updates *doesn't install them either* you numskull, they would just be downloaded... what is so hard about downloading them when you see them? Until you are living in a hut in Alaska and you only go into town once a week for the internet, that should not be an issue or delay you from updating in any way whatsoever.

    This whole article is just the most absurd thing to complain about I have ever seen.

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  8. what a load. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Remember how Microsoft was pushing Windows 10 updates to your computers? That surely made a lot of people furious.

    of course... but what does that have to do with the macOS update that you can choose to ignore? surely you aren't baiting me or conflating clearly different approaches to a situation, right?

    you know what does make a lot of people furious, bullshit summaries that try to bait people, exactly like this summary.

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    1. Re:what a load. by willy_me · · Score: 2

      Cell or satellite connections. The updates are not always small.

  9. Re:Upgrade now for 25% less battery life! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At least you can upgrade your Mac. Microsoft pushed out the Windows 10 Anniversary Update over the weekend and it wouldn't install because the installer thinks my SSD was a USB memory stick.

    I miss my Mac. *sigh*

  10. Re:Please file a bug report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    By the way you insult everyone, it's clear that you are a Mac user.

  11. Remember how Microsoft Blah? by BigBuckHunter · · Score: 2, Funny

    Re: Remember how Microsoft was pushing Windows 10 updates to your computers?

    No, I do not remember, because I'm a Mac user.

  12. My and a friend played CS:GO yesterday. by aliquis · · Score: 2

    20:12 / 20:02 his Windows machine had told him it would reboot itself for an update.

    The time passed and he mentioned how it hadn't restarted for that and I told him that maybe it didn't do that if one was playing a game. .. but surely enough Windows like the idiotic authoritarian knows better shit-product it is rebooted his machine and he was gone from the team. We won 16-14 and he got a two hours ban from leaving the game.

    I assume one can block that behavior with enough leet / admin / group setting skills but the normal user settings don't let you do that, all you can do is set a 12 hour working period and that's it and beyond that Windows reboots whenever the fuck it wants to if it wants to. Why should you be the master of your computer after all?!

  13. Re:Upgrade now for 25% less battery life! by Jeremi · · Score: 3, Informative

    So everytime you copy something, it's uploaded to iCloud?

    No, it's only shared locally with devices that are on the same LAN, and logged in to the same user account. Also, it's encrypted before transmission.

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  14. PPTP support is gone in Sierra by zerofoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Make sure you don't need it before you update.

    Yes, yes - PPTP needs to go into the trash bin - but there are devices that do not yet support L2TP or IPSEC (I'm looking at you Ubiquiti).

    1. Re:PPTP support is gone in Sierra by jaklode · · Score: 2

      Just to mention one ridiculous use case of PPTP: In Austria, Italy, Belgium, and the Netherlands; ADSL connections run PPTP on top of a PPP over ATM (PPPoA) connection. So if you only have a modem (to which your device connects via PPTP), and directly connect your Mac to it, I suppose you are screwed now.

  15. Re: Please file a bug report by DarkVader · · Score: 2

    Interesting that you picked VMWare Fusion, because 8.5 is a free update...