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FBI Looks Into Unlocking Minnesota Mall Stabber's iPhone (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNET: The Minnesota man suspected of stabbing 10 people in a mall before police fatally shot him left behind his iPhone. Now, FBI agents are looking into unlocking his iPhone as part of the investigation. The FBI says Dahir Adan, 20, attacked several shoppers on September 17 in a frenzy, asking his victims if they were Muslim before he stabbed them. ISIS claimed responsibility for attack shortly after. FBI director James Comey told the House Judiciary Committee his agency is reviewing Adan's electronic devices -- but is having issues getting into his iPhone. The device remains locked, as agents are "exploring technical and legal options," Minneapolis FBI spokesman Jeff Van Nest said. He declined to specify what model the iPhone was.

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  1. Hook, line, and sinker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ISIS took credit for my stubbed toe last week and these god damn dipshits eat it up ever time. Thanks for being a bunch of fucking gullible retards, America. Begin so incapable of generating even a modicum of rational thought, you deserve every single bad thing that happens to you. Smarten up, you stupid assholes.

    1. Re:Hook, line, and sinker by sudon't · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The point the OP was trying to make is that many, perhaps most, of these attacks are perpetrated by mentally unbalanced individuals, and are not planned attacks by an organization. Yet, the media and the politicians love to play up the, at one time, Al Qeada, and now, ISIS angle because it's good for the terrorism industry. Or they're stupid - it's not always easy to tell. But the reason for the American public's gullibility is clear. If there were any doubts about the intelligence of the American electorate before, this election has settled the matter.

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  2. Re:The new line for the Johnnie Cochran's out ther by DaHat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reality is that police do have a right, with a court order to search everything related to you, especially if you commit multiple attempted murders

    Said right does not require a safe manufacturer to build backdoors into their safes, nor alter the complexity of math.

    That said I am all for strong encryption on all electronics. I think the best solution is some middle ground. I don't know where that middle ground is. The reality is that we the people need to start by requiring the federal government to treat our computers, email and cell phones with the same level of respect for privacy as is given to the US mail (i.e. its a felony to tamper/interfere/gain unauthorized access). Once that is established we can have a conversation about giving access with court order to some or all of these items.

    Easier said than done. The contents of a letter remain secret because people treat it that way. The contents of a safe remain secret because people treat it that way... and have a physical impediment to easy access. The contents of an encrypted device remain secret because the system is designed not to be easily be openable by anyone other than those the legitimate owner has chosen thanks to lots of math.

    Currently, there is no legal requirement for a company like Apple to have a way that they & only can unlock a phone, in fact they've purposely engineered ways to make it more difficult.

    It's easy to say "but in the case of terrorism, we should have the right to compel them!" ok... where do you want that right to end? Are you & Apple ready for divorcing spouses to be going to court to order the seizing of their spouses cell phone and ordering Apple to decrypt it to prove infidelity?

    Such an ability also lowers the bar not only for law enforcement to legitimately investigate (via search warrant) suspects, but also the ability to plenty of others in law enforcement & government to go fishing.

  3. Re:The new line for the Johnnie Cochran's out ther by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The current U.S. administration has said (at least in internal documents) that all conservative Christians are potential terrorists and are a bigger threat to security in the U.S. than ISIS. Since this policy has gone uncontested for at least 6 years despite all evidence and statistics to the contrary, I guess all the bureaucrats don't have a problem with this. If we say that encryption must have back doors "because terrorists" then aren't we saying that any group that is out of favor politically should loose their 4th & 5th amendment rights?

  4. Re: The new line for the Johnnie Cochran's out the by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There also has to be a limit to how much work the government can compel people to do for free to help them uncover evidence. Creating, testing and pushing an OS update is pushing it in my mind.

    Otherwise, why bother paying for infrastructure projects? Just start pressing people into evidence-discovering gangs: "You, you and you. We think there's a corpse buried somewhere under here, start digging. You brought your own shovel, right?"

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  5. Re:The new line for the Johnnie Cochran's out ther by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why should I give up my right to have a secure phone just because some idiot can't keep his sword in his scabbard? It doesn't matter what he's done or if he's alive or dead, I'm not required to have useless encryption on my devices.

    Sure, the police have the right to search his stuff all day long. They can disassemble his phone, unsolder the flash chip, clone it, and try PIN after PIN against the image as many times as they want. They can hire Bruce Schneier, they can subpoena Apple, they can send his phone to the NSA, they can even ask Chuck Norris to roundhouse kick it open. They absolutely have the right to try anything to get in to the phone. But they don't have the right to succeed. They don't have the right to make us make this task easier for them.

    And despite your most fervent wishing that some middle ground exists somewhere, the fact is no middle ground is possible. This is simple logic we're talking about here -- encrypted data is either secure, or it's broken. It's a boolean, not a tri-state value. And law enforcement and intelligence agencies have proven with every leaked secret that they abuse whatever trust or tools they're given, and the volume of abuse increases over time. They have constantly violated our rights and abused our trust, and every single time they start down that path the leaked data shows they've overextended their reach. It's not only irresponsible to trust them again, it's reckless. We can't trust them with a key escrow system, not even with a court protecting us - they'll just stand up another secret FISA court to get around the rules.

    Besides, the existing system worked pretty darn well. Bad guy starts stabbing people, policeman shoots him dead. I don't care what his stupid motives were, because they truly do not matter to anyone. Why should we bother giving his fetid ideas a single extra minute of daylight? Let his defective brain and rancid motives lie buried in the ground with the rest of his corpse in an unmarked grave, and never be shared with the public or media. It's not like learning his motives is useful to anyone. We can't just arrest people who simply share those ideas - people always have the right to think extremely stupid and anti-social thoughts; they just don't have the right to act on them.

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