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Skype For Linux Adds 'Experimental' Video Calls, Disables Some Alpha Versions (skype.com)

An anonymous Slashdot reader writes: This morning Skype released version 1.10 of Skype for Linux which includes an "experimental version" of video calls. "We are not quite there. The 1-on-1 video calls work only between Skype for Linux Alpha clients for now," warns an announcement on the Skype forum. "Despite the early phase, we'd like to ask you, the Linux community, to help us with testing. Please let us know how the video works for you."

They're also disabling some older versions of the Skype for Linux Alpha (versions 1.1 through 1.6), saying "Those users will be asked to update to [the] latest version." But after a 20-month lull between releases for the old app, it's refreshing to see a much faster pace for development for this new WebRTC version. It's been less than a month since the release of version 1.8, and two weeks since version 1.9 came out, offering support for system HTTPS proxy.

42 comments

  1. Do Not Want! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep these hacker Linux users off my skype calls! I don't want them stealing my personal info and trying to break into my computers!

    1. Re:Do Not Want! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then run a real OS and adopt sane operating practices and you won't have to worry so much about people breaking in.

  2. Skype alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are there any REAL Skype alternatives for Linux? For all of its warts, Skype always worked fine for me in Linux (doing Linux-to-Linux and Linux-to-Windows calls, at least).

    I know that are many (too many, actually) applications, web-based portals and protocols for chat and instant messaging.

    But for video calls there's almost nothing. There are some SIP-based applications (linphone, for example), but the set-up is insane. You need your own SIP server, and you have to handle NAT traversal yourself (which is an absolute nightmare). And last I checked (which was a long time ago) you could only do 1-on-1 video calls.

    So, is there any dummy-friendly video call software for Linux out there that supports conferencing with multiple users?

    1. Re:Skype alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google Hangouts work. It's browser based, but it works with Chrome and Firefox, is relatively high-quality and handles large conference calls (6/7 people) better than Skype.

    2. Re: Skype alternatives by chipperdog · · Score: 2

      meet.jitsi.org Google Hangouts Many SIP clients

    3. Re:Skype alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'll never understand why someone thinks other people want to see them on a phone call (or for that matter, for the caller to want other people to see *them*).

    4. Re:Skype alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you've led a very sheltered life AC ....

    5. Re:Skype alternatives by NotInHere · · Score: 2

      If you have modern browsers at both sides of the connection (supporting webrtc: http://caniuse.com/#feat=rtcpe...), there are many online sites that require no account setup or anything else, and where a connection can be done by clicking a link. No plugins required.

      It needs a separate channel e.g. chat to set it up (where you can send your communication partner the link, or ask them to talk via the webrtc), but it works.

      https://talky.io/
      https://appear.in/
      https://meet.jit.si/
      https://apprtc.appspot.com/

    6. Re:Skype alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is Tox, try the qtox client (or utox as a second choice). No servers needed, it's all P2P, although I there's one point don't understand much : you have a hexadecimal ID number, which you give out to friends and vice versa. They could use it as their own and impersonate you? But afaik, otherwise you hardly get more private than that.

      On residential internet it just works, but on a random "web-only" wifi hotspot it doesn't (like that time I had a friend at the hospital and we just wanted to do keyboard chat)
      Not sure about multiuser video, I never tried that. It ostensibly does multiuser chat.

    7. Re:Skype alternatives by dargaud · · Score: 2

      On normal phones calls I don't. But when your parents want to see and talk with your 2-year old then, yes, it is invaluable.

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    8. Re:Skype alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you need video anyway? Difficulty: no porn

    9. Re:Skype alternatives by matbury · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's called WebRTC and is a cross-platform standard. The article itself refers to Skype for Linux being a WebRTC version. There are plenty of WebRTC browser and desktop clients and free services available. Skype has 2 advantages over most other internet telephony services: #1 - A lot of people use Skype so the chances that people you know are on it are higher, #2 - You can make (cheap) calls to regular land-line and mobile telephone services.

      The biggest issue with any internet communications service is compatibility: In practical terms, none of the services I've seen are compatible with each other. They're all walled gardens. This is why regular phones are still king; despite the much higher cost, everyone uses them because they can call everyone else on the same service, no matter which service provider they're with.

    10. Re:Skype alternatives by swillden · · Score: 2

      So, is there any dummy-friendly video call software for Linux out there that supports conferencing with multiple users?

      Google Hangouts. Works great. I use it for all of my meetings -- usually 2-3 hours per day (I work for Google). Works on Linux, OS X, Windows, ChromeOS, Android and iOS, supports up to tens of users in one call (limit is 50, IIRC). There are dedicated systems available for it as well, based on Chromeboxes. It allows any user to cast their screen/window for presentations or whatnot.

      If you use Google Calendar, Hangouts is integrated with your calendar; there's a URL you can go to that shows your calendar entries for the day and clicking on one of them automatically enters that video call. Companies that use the system can integrate it with meeting room management, so each room has its own calendar and people can schedule rooms when they create/edit calendar entries, and rooms can likewise be connected to a meeting with one tap/click.

      It's quite a nice system. The best I've used, and I've used several of them. Yes, I work for Google so I'm not unbiased, but this is my honest opinion.

      Obviously it does require all users to have a Google account (gmail or GSuite), and you get the very best results with a set of GSuite accounts all in the same domain (e.g. the same company) where everyone uses the calendar, meeting rooms are in the system, etc. But for ad-hoc use with a bunch of gmail accounts the basic video conferencing works fine, and it's free.

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    11. Re:Skype alternatives by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      Mainly it's C-level people wanting to spend $10,000 per end on LifeSize teleconferencing units. Most other people are happy to voice chat while in their underwear (or not) and have the other parties completely unaware of this.

    12. Re:Skype alternatives by NotInHere · · Score: 1

      I think the ID number is some sort of public key, so you can't impersonate other people.

    13. Re:Skype alternatives by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

      Seconded. I actually switched to Hangouts permanently after my move to Linux.

      Skype had it's merits, but definitely had it's share of issues on Windows and it is a waste of RAM on linux.

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    14. Re: Skype alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know people don't want to see me when I'm working from home ..... Especially in the mornings before i get dressed..

    15. Re:Skype alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And some of us don't get to see our kids very often.

    16. Re:Skype alternatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be "its merits" and "its share"

  3. Late as hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Its a bit late seeing as Skype is falling out of use due to being total crap in everything it does.

  4. Tried skype on Linux last week... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1
    I tried to install and run Skype on my Debian 8 install last week. Major fail.

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    I had a couple of video calls to do, so I just punted Skype and used google+ hangouts instead. It just worked.

    I don't have the time to waste in my business while Microsoft tries to figure out how to release working software.

    1. Re:Tried skype on Linux last week... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's "failure" for the noun, "fail" for the verb.

      Your grammar fails.

    2. Re:Tried skype on Linux last week... by S.O.B. · · Score: 1

      According to the Oxford dictionary using "fail" informally to mean "a mistake or lack of success in doing something" is an acceptable use.

      So, your correction would be an epic fail.

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    3. Re:Tried skype on Linux last week... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Google+ Hangouts fails for being Google. It's like saying thepiratebay.org is a great backup service.

  5. clear as mud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is a clear sign that it is the year of Linux Desktop

    1. Re:clear as mud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or the NSA has a renewed interest in some who use Linux.... as desktop

  6. 'Disables some Alpha versions'? by unixisc · · Score: 2

    It's okay to drop Alpha versions altogether - that CPU - great as it was - has been dead for I think a decade now.

  7. Oh grow the fuck up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's yet another neutered electron app. This is not cause for celebration, its cause for a continuing recognifiton of microsoft's decision to strategically slight linux while taking everyting we have to offer (eg: everything)

  8. ONLY apps can app apps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AppPe is an appy app app that lets you app apps while apping other apps! LUDDITE Linux users are too stupid to figure out how to app apps, so they're still refusing to app this app even though it's super appy!

    Apps!

  9. Ah, memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember when Skype for Linux actually worked, and behaved like its Windows counterpart? Some time right before Microsoft bought Skype, if I recall.

  10. Thank god for web-based video chat by mugurel · · Score: 1

    so we don't have to put up with this crap anymore

  11. Never ever loaded by thundercattt · · Score: 1

    Every time I need Skype for Linux, I attempt to install, reinstall, crowbar and there's always an issue with some file that's not the right version that's linked to other major files and won't update without breaking. NEVER have I gotten it on my system. I've always had to install it in Virtualized Windoze

    1. Re:Never ever loaded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're running a 64-bit system, you may not have the 32-bit versions of some of those libs installed. Skype is 32-bit only. Install the 32-bit versions. Has always WFM.

  12. Wait what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've used Skype on linux the past.. like.. 6 years?

    It's had video support all along, and worked perfectly all along. Even before MS got it, there was video support.. What'd I miss?

  13. Old news by Air-conditioned+cowh · · Score: 1

    Newsflash! Skype for Linux is up to version 4.3 and has had video calls for years now.

  14. Pulseaudio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Installed, installed the required pulseaudio, found out that pulseaudio was fucking up music, uninstalled.

  15. Unsaid by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    "The NSA plug-ins are still acting up."

  16. Skype is just another govt surveillance tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But it doesn't gather any useful intel since everyone knows it and the baddies avoid using it.

    The reason Linux support got dropped is the same as the reason you can go Linux to current MS Skype with the new version: There are hooks, backdoors, and breakable encryption in the current MS versions. Having an open source Skype talk to that would paint big red targets on all these areas.

    Just say no to Skype and use open source, well encrypted alternatives until the government admits to what it is doing and why.

    I wouldn't even mind using it if the government would just admit to what it is doing and get the laws changed to make what they are doing legal.

  17. Need to try by fabiosarts · · Score: 1

    Time to bring my GCC to work :D