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How a Video Game About Sheep Exposes the FBI's Broken FOIA System (dailydot.com)

blottsie writes from a report via Daily Dot: Earlier this year, the FBI released a free, online video game featuring sheep in its attempts to fight terrorism recruitment efforts. The game is called The Slippery Slope of Violent Extremism, and it is a real thing that exists. You can play it here. After journalists filed a FOIA request to find out more about the game, the FBI said it would take two years to respond -- a staggeringly long wait that helps expose how the Bureau actively avoids responding to open-records requests. The information requested asked for "all documents -- specifically memos, email correspondence, and budgets -- around the development, release, and public reception of the FBI's Slippery Slope game. It's the one with the sheep." There are several reasons why it would take two years to respond. One reason is because of the lack of requests. "If 500 people want to have the FBI file on a famous dead person, that's going to be available, and it's going to be available quickly," J. Pat Brown, an employee at MuckRock, a nonprofit that helps journalists, researchers, good government groups, and interested members of the public make FOIA requests of government agencies, said. "But basic requests about agency activities are pushed into their own pile," adds Daily Dot. Another part of the problem has to do with the outdated technology used by government agencies. "Many of the computers the FBI is using to search for this material are from the 1980s and lack graphical interfaces. Outdated technology being a hurdle to government transparency is common across many federal agencies. The CIA only accepts FOIA request by fax machine, for example," reports Daily Dot. "In 2013, the Office of the Secretary of Defense, which oversees the NSA among other agencies, was unable to accept FOIA requests for months because its fax machine broke and it had to wait until the next fiscal year to get it replaced." What's more is that government agencies are often not required to disclose information after long wait times for processing FOIAs. "As Ginger McCall of the Electronic Privacy Information Center told the Daily Dot in 2014, she once waited four years with near total silence on a FOIA request about the TSA's airport body-scanner technology only to get a note out of the blue from TSA saying she had to respond with 30 days if she wanted them to continue processing her request," reports Daily Dot. "When McCall reached out to others who had made FOIA requests to agencies under the Department of Homeland Security umbrella, they reported similar experiences."

116 comments

  1. The FOIA is not broken by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is working exactly as designed, to stonewall.

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    1. Re: The FOIA is not broken by dave3548 · · Score: 2

      From the excellent new book, What Government Gets Wrong: The Unelected Officials Who Actually Run Government: "Simply comparing the total volume of congressional output with the gross bureaucratic product provides a rough indication of where lawmaking now occurs in the federal government. The 106th Congress (1999â"2000) was among the most active in recent years. It passed 580 pieces of legislation, 200 more than the 105th Congress and nearly twice as many as the 104th. Some, like campaign finance reform, seemed quite significant, but many pieces of legislation were minor. During the same two years, executive agencies produced 157,173 pages of new rules and regulations in the official Federal Register, roughly the average number for recent years." We still elect politicians, but they no longer run the country.

    2. Re:The FOIA is not broken by npslider · · Score: 1

      Government agencies loooove their secrets. They will fight tooth and nail to keep them safe. Some secrets should stay safe as they may lead to great ham in the wrong hands. Other's will only humiliate some one or worst yet, require a lazy low-level government employee to actually do something job related at work!

    3. Re:The FOIA is not broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Re: "The CIA only accepts FOIA request by fax machine..."

      Sure, and the FBI only accepts FOIA requests by telex, the DOD only accepts FOIA requests by telegram, and the NSA only accepts FOIA requests by carrier pigeon. On Sundays, with a double signature required, they only accept messengers with blue socks, and requests during football, baseball, basketball and hockey seasons are summarily dismissed.

      How much of this is due to dated infrastructure, and how much is deliberate foot-dragging?

    4. Re:The FOIA is not broken by youngone · · Score: 1

      How much of this is due to dated infrastructure, and how much is deliberate foot-dragging?

      That's a fair question, but I think the answer is obvious. It is all due to foot-dragging. It the rules are byzantine and difficult to follow, requests can be denied for perfectly valid reasons.

    5. Re:The FOIA is not broken by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      FOIA's purpose is served even with a lag. As long as records will reach the public then it serves as pressure on people. That's the intent.

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    6. Re:The FOIA is not broken by just+another+AC · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... they may lead to great ham in the wrong hands.

      Someone is going to steal my prosciutto?

    7. Re:The FOIA is not broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Particularly when judges rule that private citizens can be served summons via Facebook

    8. Re:The FOIA is not broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's say you were required to produce all memos and emails from your organization related to a particular project. How much time, effort, and money would have to be wasted on that?
      I guess I don't really understand the point of FOIA. Is it trying to root out corruption and waste, or is every item of day-to-day government business supposed to be liable to second-guessing by the taxpayers?

    9. Re:The FOIA is not broken by sconeu · · Score: 1

      No, EVIL TERRORISTS are going to *MAKE* prosciutto, using the FBI's super secret curing method.

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    10. Re:The FOIA is not broken by plopez · · Score: 1

      Underfund so there is plausible deniability

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    11. Re:The FOIA is not broken by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Time is a critical element to documents, just like everything else. You are being dismissive of the FBI's outright malfeasance here. IF the FBI has nothing to hide, it would not take so long.

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    12. Re:The FOIA is not broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think the majority of contemporary terrorists are eating very much prosciutto... -PCP

    13. Re: The FOIA is not broken by dbIII · · Score: 1

      We still elect politicians, but they no longer run the country

      They are never supposed to.
      They are supposed to set policy to provide a direction instead of micromanaging.

      The idea that they actually run the country is very common but still incredibly naive. We also don't really want them to do it directly, there was a war to take control away from a King remember.

    14. Re:The FOIA is not broken by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Let's say you were required to produce all memos and emails from your organization related to a particular project. How much time, effort, and money would have to be wasted on that?

      Nowhere near two years.

      Is it trying to root out corruption and waste, or is every item of day-to-day government business supposed to be liable to second-guessing by the taxpayers?

      I'd say corruption, yes.

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    15. Re: The FOIA is not broken by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Once again Yes, Minister shows itself to be a frighteningly accurate look at how government works:

      Sir Humphrey: Minister I have something to say to you which you may not like to hear.
      Jim: Why should today be any different?
      Sir Humphrey: Minister, the traditional allocation of executive responsibilities has always been so determined as to liberate the Ministerial incumbent from the administrative minutiae by devolving the managerial functions to those whose experience and qualifications have better formed them for the performance of such humble offices, thereby releasing their political overlords for the more onerous duties and profound deliberations which are the inevitable concomitant of their exalted position.
      Jim: Now, whatever made you think I wouldn't want to hear that?
      Sir Humphrey: Well I thought it might upset you.
      Jim: How could it, I didn't understand a single word. Humphrey for God's sake, for once in your life put it into plain English.
      Sir Humphrey: If you insist. You are not here to run this Department.
      Jim: I beg your pardon.
      Sir Humphrey: You are not here to run this Department.
      Jim: I think I am. The people think I am too!
      Sir Humphrey: With respect Minister you are... they are wrong.
      Jim: And who does run this Department?
      Sir Humphrey: I do.

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    16. Re:The FOIA is not broken by hattable · · Score: 1

      NSA takes the FOIA requests by mail.

      https://www.nsa.gov/resources/everyone/foia/

      25 days to respond. If something feels 'wrong' about how your case is being handled give them a call or send an email to get an update. If it feels 'extra wrong' file an IG complaint. People don't realize that the lawyers working in IG essentially hate every other government employee. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a whiteboard in the office with tick marks showing how many times they have proven fraud, waste or abuse.

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    17. Re: The FOIA is not broken by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Pity I can't mod you up.

    18. Re: The FOIA is not broken by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

      They are never supposed to.

      They are supposed to set policy to provide a direction instead of micromanaging.

      I guess you haven't read Article I, Section 1 of the Constitution of the United State of America.

      Here's a link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      And here's the text:

      All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

      Hope this helps.

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  2. Most Transparent Administration In History! by random+coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets hear it for the most transparent administration in history!

    1. Re:Most Transparent Administration In History! by npslider · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is where you are wrong. The current administration IS being transparent.

      Do you see any information? Nope. That's because it is perfectly transparent, thus invisible to all known forms of visual detection.

      We have gotten what we were promised. We just need the 'courage' to accept it.

    2. Re: Most Transparent Administration In History! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that this is the new standard; expect all administrations from here on out to be less transparent.

    3. Re:Most Transparent Administration In History! by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      However, were previous administrations *more* transparent? No, not really. Administrations have been secretive forever. The only thing new with the Obama administration was the campaign promise to be more open, which then draws peoples attention to the fact that there is no transparency. And given the public's inability to remember the past they assume that only the Obama administration is being opaque. Of course there's some partisanship playing a part - the president you like is forgiven, the president you hate is blamed ("it's ok for my guys, we were fighting terrorism, Hitler, the cold war, the kaiser, Santa Ana, the confederates, and Canadians spies, so being secretive is necessary for security").

    4. Re:Most Transparent Administration In History! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Lets hear it for the most transparent administration in history!

      Perhaps they are, but by going from "F" to a "D-"

    5. Re:Most Transparent Administration In History! by felrom · · Score: 1

      Nothing new. The Obama administration has the worst record of blanket FOIA denial of any since FOIA became a thing.

      There was a lawyer who sent the FBI an FOIA wanting to know what offenses would make a person a "domestic abuser" and disqualify them from buying a gun. The FBI said the list was secret and refused to answer. There's your most transparent administration ever!

      The BATFE has stopped responding to FOIAs completely. If you want anything from them, you have to sue, pay for counsel, and wait for the lethargic court system to sort it out for a few years. They've even claimed they're not subject to FOIA requests AT ALL!

      http://www.guns.com/2015/08/12...

      Another case recently: a lawyer was looking for all correspondence between the BATFE and a gun control group, NFATCA. The BATFE slow walked it until there was a lawsuit, then said they could only deliver records from after 2013, and it would take 6 months. The "compromise" was that the BATFE will release the emails in 5 dumps between November and March. So 10 months after the initial request, he'll have all the documents, and then he can take them to court over the huge number of redactions that recent history has shown us will be in there.

      As much as some people want to try and say, "the last guy wasn't transparent either!!!," well, things have objectively gotten worse for FOIA requests under Obama.

  3. Flawed Understanding of FOIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "all documents -- specifically memos, email correspondence, and budgets -- around the development, release, and public reception of the FBI's Slippery Slope game. It's the one with the sheep.

    That request is almost impossible to fulfill. Besides the part of pulling all of this information, consider that each document must be read, deliberately, by someone who understands the program adequately to determine if any combination of information reveals anything classified. That means it has to be correlated with contracting information, requirements documentation and classification guidance. While it's possible that everything in the program itself is unclassified, what drove the creation undoubtedly includes classified information. If there's something in there, say, specifically targeted at The Global Islamic Genocide Front, then the reviewers must determine if anything released will point back to classified information about that organization ... for every document requested. And, unlike Hilary, they actually have to comply with the law and can't email you classified information. As for the fax machine example ... I completely believe it's true; it would be a misappropriation of funds to buy a fax machine if you don't have that chunk of cash for a fax machine. In a time of shrinking budgets, we really do end up scrapping over hundreds of dollars. We ran out of toilet paper a week before the end of the FY.

    1. Re: Flawed Understanding of FOIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So when the IRS wants me to pay my taxes, they should be all cool with me taking 8 years to fulfill their request due to my tax software being on an apple//+ in basic that loads from cassette tape.

      Also they need to keep asking every 7 days if they want me to continue processing the payment.

      And I get to send payment with all $20 bills redacted due to the classification I've assigned to them.

      Why do I get the feeling that wouldn't fly?

    2. Re:Flawed Understanding of FOIA by PPH · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but how long has the FOIA been effective? 50 years? At some point, the FBI's e-mail and document management systems need to be updated to handle the use cases that this legislation mandated. SGML or XML databases with entries pre-tagged (by the author) with attributes describing each passages classification level. One query to dump all entries applicable to the request, suitably filtered and redacted based on classification attributes. Job done.

      Sure, the FBI doesn't have the budget for this. But look at all the other crap they have bought since 1967. Someone needs to put their (and every other gov't agencies) feet to the fire and spend funds on the first project in the queue before starting another one. Insufficient resources to process FOIA requests in a timely manner? Fine. All the Patriot Act toys will have to wait until the first job is done. We have a government that never had to answer face the childhood lesson: If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding!

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    3. Re: Flawed Understanding of FOIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the laws establish penalties for you if you don't comply. You can take a while if you want, provided you don't have a problem paying the fees and interest when you're done.

      Unless some lawyer can correct me, I will assume the FOIA levies no penalty upon the government or its personnel for poor performance. Most laws don't, so the only incentive comes from public pressure on elected officials.

    4. Re:Flawed Understanding of FOIA by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Depends on your definition of budget, actually.

      They underfund privacy for you and overfund the PAFFO ignoring your request.

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    5. Re:Flawed Understanding of FOIA by PPH · · Score: 1

      So we need to take the line item budget power away from Congress and the Administration and replace it with a first in/first out queue system. We can't spend money on the toys until the old work is done.

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  4. Distorted Logic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Distorted Logic: Our group is under attack" - Same shit the FBI spews in every press release. Violent extremists: identified.

  5. Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The information requested asked for "all documents -- specifically memos, email correspondence, and budgets -- around the development, release, and public reception of the FBI's Slippery Slope game.

    What? No source code?

  6. Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The CIA only accepts FOIA request by fax machine, for example," reports Daily Dot. "In 2013, the Office of the Secretary of Defense, which oversees the NSA among other agencies, was unable to accept FOIA requests for months because its fax machine broke and it had to wait until the next fiscal year to get it replaced."

    My jaw literally dropped. If I had seen that in a movie, I would have though it was a pretty funny parody of the kind of thing that really goes on. But actual reality?

    1. Re:Seriously? by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

      Hard to tell, man.

      If they have an appropriated budget with $100K for office equipment, legally they cannot buy more if they already spent it all. It doesn't matter if they still have $200K left in their toilet paper budget.

      They could repurpose another machine or borrow hardware from elsewhere. The government even maintains a surplus warehouse where they might find a workable machine that is otherwise destined for the landfill.

      But maybe none of those options panned out. Or maybe they just don't care about FOIA requests because those requests eat a lot of time and money, and no one has lost their job for being too slow yet.

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    2. Re:Seriously? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      But actual reality?

      No, according to the CIA's website, they also accept FOIA requests by snail mail. AFAIK, this has always been the case. However, the only electronic way to submit a FOIA request is by fax (still), AFAIK.

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    3. Re:Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If part of your budget doesn't go towards a maintenance contract to keep your day-to-day equipment running, and you left yourself with zero budget to repair things as and when they go wrong, then you are doing something extremely wrong.

    4. Re: Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It rarely works this way in practice. Funds are misappropriated all the time, and even if they are following the rules, no one ever spends their whole budget that early. You have to waIt until a month before the end of the FY and blow it all so you get the same amount next year (plus increases). This is why they have people with $500 ergonomic office chairs, bought at the last second the year before.

    5. Re:Seriously? by dbIII · · Score: 1

      However, the only electronic way to submit a FOIA request is by fax (still), AFAIK.

      Just the fax ma'am.

  7. Archaic terms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The CIA only accepts FOIA request by fax machine, for example

    For those wondering, fax machines were an archaic communications technology. If you think of them as an intermediate step between cuneiform tablets and email then that pretty much covers it.

    1. Re:Archaic terms by youngone · · Score: 1

      Slightly offtopic, but our fax line seems to have failed, probably sometime about April last year due to some faulty wiring. I had the other affected lines repaired, but no-one noticed the fax line hasn't worked since then. I don't think I will bother getting the tech back.

    2. Re:Archaic terms by Maritz · · Score: 2

      fax machines were an archaic communications technology.

      lol. That's what they are now. They weren't archaic when they came out, bud.

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  8. Shall we talk about FOIA or this game? by Pollux · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because I'm playing the game right now, and it's the funniest thing I've seen in a while. Play a game trying to steer a greased sheep through a Dire Straits music video, all the while being told that the enemy is trying to brainwash me. It feels eerily similar to old-school public service announcements that have a message completely unrelated to the content delivered with it.

    "Don't be a puppet!" Hilarious. Who in their right mind would think this would stop terrorists?

    1. Re:Shall we talk about FOIA or this game? by Thud457 · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Shall we talk about FOIA or this game? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Who in their right mind would think this would stop terrorists?

      I'm kind of worried it will have the opposite effect because, if anything, the sloppy controls make me want to send a bomb to person responsible.

    3. Re:Shall we talk about FOIA or this game? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      "Who the fuck eats raw eggs, man? I think the government's telling us it's time to burn one."

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    4. Re:Shall we talk about FOIA or this game? by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I was waiting for someone to say something funny about sheeple but greased sheep in a dire straits video made me damn near fall out of my chair...

    5. Re:Shall we talk about FOIA or this game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Level 6:

      Our violent actions will result in a better future.

      Isn't that basically the theme of every play/opera/novel/movie ever? (With some rare exceptions eg. Macbeth)

    6. Re:Shall we talk about FOIA or this game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Don't be a puppet!" Hilarious. Who in their right mind would think this would stop terrorists?

      More to the point, I'm pretty certain that "Our violent actions will result in a better future" is exactly the kind of logic applied to justify recent Western military actions.

      I'm totally baffled why someone thought this was a good way to deliver a serious message. "Don't skid your goat into a block kids. Oh, and don't be a terrorist either". Uh, yeah, I wasn't so clear on that last bit but having played the goat game it's so much clearer now!

    7. Re:Shall we talk about FOIA or this game? by TroII · · Score: 1

      Because I'm playing the game right now, and it's the funniest thing I've seen in a while.

      Far be it from me to tell you and your enormous balls how to have fun, but I'd steer clear of any Flash being served up by fbi.gov.

  9. WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The spent money on this flash game?!?
    The game is terrible. The controls, graphics, and game play are all shit.
    And can someone explain to me what this has to do with fighting extremism?
    Seems like a colossal waste of tax payer money.

    1. Re: WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you are supposed to be hacking the game. In two years they will tell you the purpose.
      Sheesh
      Is this Slashdot?
      The Tron Legacy and Portal sattelite hack had better hackers than you guys.

  10. Trouble by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    The sheep are starting to ask questions.

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    1. Re:Trouble by npslider · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's always a very baaaaad sign.

    2. Re:Trouble by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      The sheep are starting to ask questions.

      Just tell them to use the A-a-a-a-a-sk Toolbar that comes with Java, Sheep Edition.

    3. Re:Trouble by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      You better watch out-

      There may be dogs about

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    4. Re:Trouble by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      *Awaits Sheepgate*

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    5. Re:Trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any sheep would if you first grease it and then try to steer it through a Dire Straits music video.

  11. Controls by Dan+East · · Score: 1

    The controls for that game are horrible. If it took more than a day and $500 to create then taxpayers should be ticked.

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    1. Re:Controls by npslider · · Score: 1

      It's the reason the F-35 program is so over budget - it paid for this fine piece of software.

      The game before you is the result of years of quality government work. It's the optimal use of other people's money. It took 456 different committee meetings just to decide to use sheep. The pizza costs alone for the programmers was in the millions. All minority groups and special interest groups had to be involved. The labor unions had to agree to the terms of the labor contract. The choice of Flash required a request for proposal to be sent out to all the major malware makers to bid on a multi-year contract. The game had to meet with congressional approval, a majority decision of the supreme court, the President's signature, UN ratification, and Putin's personal stamp of approval.

      Quality of this level, does not come easily.

    2. Re:Controls by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      The controls for that game are horrible.

      Because you are holding the sheep wrong.
      - Steve Jo-o-o-o-obs

    3. Re: Controls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the other 99% was the private business that was contracted to do it since the Republicans don't want the government wasting money when middle men can give them kickbacks.

  12. I made legendary jihadist in 12 rounds! by downright · · Score: 2

    I made legendary jihadist in 12 rounds! I dare you to beat my high score!

     

    1. Re:I made legendary jihadist in 12 rounds! by PPH · · Score: 1

      Congratulations! You get to the next level and receive 72 sheep.

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    2. Re:I made legendary jihadist in 12 rounds! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      But they are very attractive sheep.

  13. I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >The CIA only accepts FOIA request by fax machine

    How much trouble would you be in if you black faxed CIA?

    1. Re:I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trouble?

      You give them an excuse to ignore FOIA requests for at least a year until they figure how to solve the problem.

  14. Graphical interface? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Many of the computers the FBI is using to search for this material are from the 1980s and lack graphical interfaces.

    What does a graphical interface have to do with collecting data? What's more important is that the systems is hooked to a network and has a remote way of accessing it.

    1. Re:Graphical interface? by z0idberg · · Score: 1

      Don't you hate it when you are stuck using grep to find things?

      It would be so much quicker if you could just use windows search. Someone should create a windows search emulator for unix.

    2. Re:Graphical interface? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Government workers don't know how to use the old computer systems. My state paid tens of millions of dollars a few years ago to create a slow, fragile web-based system to replace the old CICS system because new workers were afraid of "DOS".

  15. Re:Land of the free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The man who won't publish his tax returns is the one who will enforce transparency?

    Not sure if OP is a troll or an idiot...

  16. Re:Land of the free? by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

    Vote Trump 2016 to end this madness

    ...and start a whole new kind of madness?

    Disclaimer: I have no plans to vote at this point. Aside from writing in a joke candidate, I can't think of a single option that wouldn't leave me feeling filthy afterwards.

  17. National CIO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wasn't there a some sort of CIO of the Nation in the US government, reporting to the President? Maybe it is time to go to work and do some work, eh?

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  18. Stop by U8MyData · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When is our illustrious government going to stop using the "outdated" technology argument? We all know that when they want something, they usually get it. This is just, "there is nothing to see here" in action.

    1. Re:Stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You prefer all their systems to be online and hackable? No one is going to steal their database through a fax interface.

    2. Re:Stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      umm. I have bad news.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_fax

  19. Re:Land of the free? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2, Informative

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  20. Serfs. You're all serfs. by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Sheep in video games have more rights than you do.

    And you just lap it up, like sheep at a pond.

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  21. Re:Trouble wool come by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    It's hard to pull the wool over your eyes.

    Shearly impossible, in fact.

    Baaa!

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  22. Re:Land of the free? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    Yes. Insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results. This is different, doing something different expecting different results.

    The problem is, that the results will be exactly the same as previously outlined, because the people running the country, aren't really the ones running the country. They are figureheads using elections to pretend to be in power, all to gain wealth and fame. Nobody but Politicians can take an under 200K job and milk it for hundreds of millions of dollars. If that isn't the sign of corruption, I don't know what would be.

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  23. Three questions from a PC gamer by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

    1: Is there multiplayer?

    2: Can I get 60fps on a GeForce 960?

    3: Is the sheep a 6 or a 10?

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    1. Re:Three questions from a PC gamer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod api pls

    2. Re:Three questions from a PC gamer by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Is the sheep a 6 or a 10?

      With lipstick and a black leather skirt, I'd give it an 8 or 9.

    3. Re:Three questions from a PC gamer by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      With lipstick and a black leather skirt, I'd give it an 8 or 9.

      Oh, you like your sheep slutty.

      Nice.

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    4. Re:Three questions from a PC gamer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3: Is the sheep a 6 or a 10?

      6' 10"

      What's that in metric?

    5. Re:Three questions from a PC gamer by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      No, I wear those, not the sheep.

    6. Re:Three questions from a PC gamer by TechnoJoe · · Score: 1

      1: Is there multiplayer?

      The FBI inde developer hyped it as multi-player, and promised it would be. However, after go-live, there were two sheep who were supposedly in the same field, but they couldn't see each other.

    7. Re:Three questions from a PC gamer by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Nice.

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    8. Re:Three questions from a PC gamer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are so many levels of TMI here that it may trigger a wormhole to a goatse universe, or a goatse to a wormhole universe.

  24. Re:Land of the free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vote Trump 2016 to end this madness

    I'm voting for Trump, because our group is under attack and the enemy is responsible for this injustice. Without a strong border we will no longer be a nation. We must defend our traditions. The use of violence is the only way to defend our beliefs. Our violent actions will result in a better future.

  25. What does it cost taxpayers? by avandesande · · Score: 1

    Nothing in the world is free. How much time does it take to catalog, classify/redact and publish all the information on a sheep video game?

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    1. Re:What does it cost taxpayers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2 interns for most of the stuff and then a 5 million dollar contract to recover the deleted items.

    2. Re:What does it cost taxpayers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Please submit a FOIA request for the answer to your question. We do need at least 5 years for this type of request. In the meantime, please try our latest game called How To Dodge Investigations Involving E-mail Server Scandals.

  26. Not enough requests by kevink707 · · Score: 1

    Maybe we should all file FOIA requests with the FBI for Slippery Slope information. That way they could not use the "not enough requests" excuse.

  27. Hilarious coincedence by lanceran · · Score: 1

    Playing the game with The Veil by Peter Gabriel playing in the background. Eerily hilarious. Try it.

  28. No trust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You can play it here."

    I aint clicking that shit nigga.jpg

  29. It's a goat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instructions: Use the left and right arrow keys on your keyboard to move the goat side to side.

  30. Goat != Sheep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Instructions: Use the left and right arrow keys on your keyboard to move the goat side to side. Avoid the blocks, cross each finish line, and wait for the distorted logic text to appear before continuing. Use the spacebar to start over if you crash. The game will end after you finish all six levels or use up all of your attempts (shown in the upper right corner of game)."

    1. Re:Goat != Sheep by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

      So THAT's why the couldn't answer the FOIA request. They've been looking for the sheep game.

  31. "broken" by design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The system isn't broken, at least not in a contemporary sense. Its functioning exactly as many in the federal government want it to, badly. Just enough to make people think they have an option, but not enough that people can actually get information on anything of consequence. I think I've read about the "system from the 80s" excuse before, it is one that FOIA requests are specifically routed to BECAUSE its old, outdated, slow and buggy. Actual FBI agent searches use a much newer system. And the fax machine excuse is about the lamest I've ever heard, I work for a local government and when our fax machine died we had a replacement delivered within a couple weeks.

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/19/fbi-sued-for-using-20-year-old-software-to-slow-walk-foia-requests/
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/16/justice-department-freedom-of-information-computer-system

  32. Re:Trouble wool come by sconeu · · Score: 1

    Where's the MOO guy? He'd actually be semi-on-topic for once!!!

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  33. Re:Land of the free? by plopez · · Score: 1

    What if trump wins by one vote? In a winner take all state one vote could swing the entire electoral college.

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  34. Re:Land of the free? by plopez · · Score: 2

    Now that Glen Beck endorsed Hillary Trump looks to be the sane and sensible solution. In an insane situation, total madness is the best solution.

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  35. That FOIA asking for a lot by sinij · · Score: 1

    "The information requested asked for "all documents -- specifically memos, email correspondence, and budgets -- around the development, release, and public reception of the FBI's Slippery Slope game."

    This is a lot of information, maybe it would make sense to ask for a budget and a list of developers instead?

    1. Re:That FOIA asking for a lot by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      This is a lot of information

      I agree. That's probably somewhere between 10k and 200k of printed pages I would guestimate. Somebody has to review each one to make sure unrelated and/or personal or sensitive info is not included, like employee vacation dates. And they may have to ask a lot of questions to know what it's talking about being the sifters were possibly not on the design team(s).

      It's probably not a good expenditure of tax money unless there's decent evidence of nefarious activity. The problem is who determines "nefarious activity" in an unbiased way. Is anybody a FOIA lawyer out there?

      It's a slippery-slope request.

    2. Re:That FOIA asking for a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ""all documents -- specifically memos, email correspondence, and budgets"

      that's not a lot actually. thats just couple of email threads and some papers approving the money. perhaps they will try to say that the contractor is secret or some bullshit like that though. might very well be, if it is a contract given to a nephew. which is the whole point of the frigging foi request.

  36. It'll be released... by XSportSeeker · · Score: 1

    FOIA request will be properly responded to, just in time for the release of the Slippery Upwards Slope of Calm Transparency Demands game that is coming as a sequel.

  37. Re:Land of the free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see somebody got a high score! Good job!

    My sheep kept crashing into the green blocks. I figured it was trying to radicalize me to fight for the sheeple.

  38. Re:Land of the free? by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

    There are two major ways to view your vote:
    1) Your tactical token to play in political matters
    2) Your free statement of support for something

    One of the logical correlaries to #1 is that a third party vote is essentially never a valid vote, since you're throwing away the token you could be using to keep out the greater of the two primary evils.

    I don't subscribe to that line of thinking.

    I'm firmly in camp #2. I believe that my vote is a statement of support FOR something, not a mere token to be used against something else. I'd vote third party if I thought any of them were fit for the office, but even though I think some of them may be better than the two front runners, I don't think any of them are actually fit. As such, that leaves me with a choice between purposeful abstention or writing in.

    It's more important to me to take a stand based on what I believe and to accept the consequences that result from it, than it is for me to compromise my beliefs by supporting someone I find reprehensible.

  39. Re:Land of the free? by dbIII · · Score: 1

    What if the winner is not clear and the court uses a newspaper article as a source to declare the winner?
    We ended up wanting "America to Be Great Again" due the the decline that happened after that.

  40. oh yeah this is great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can just imagine that the Boston Bombings could be prevented if only they had 8 bit goat simulator telling them what to do.

  41. Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice post
    Finding Source - join the movement www.findingsource.org

  42. The game appears to be about Republicans. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The game appears to describe the extremist element that has subverted the Republican party. The distorted logic statements read:

    1) Our group is under attack
    2) The enemy is responsible for this injustice
    3) We must defend our traditions
    4) The use of violence is the only way to defend our beliefs
    5) Our violent actions will result in a better future

    This reeks of Tea Party. I can think of several examples of statements and actions taken by Caucasian leaders since Obama was elected President that exemplify these statements. The rhetoric has been kicked up a notch during this election cycle.

    While I can also think of other politicians on both sides of the aisle falling into this logic, several long time Senators, such as John McCain, appear to lament the loss of cooperation between political parties.

  43. Request "some" documents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does everyone always request "all" documents? "All" documents requires a comprehensive search. Which they claim takes too long.

    Why not call. Ullsg!t on their delays by filing a second request asking for only a few documents by name? It would be harder to delay a simple concise request.

    Parallel processing!

  44. Re:Land of the free? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    FOIA = required by law
    publishing tax returns = political tradition that could lead to identity theft

    If you disagree, I propose that you post a link to your tax returns here.

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