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Ubuntu 16.10 Released, Ready to Download (omgubuntu.co.uk)
After six months of development, Ubuntu 16.10, the latest stable release of the world's most popular desktop Linux distro, is now available to download. The ISO image file of Ubuntu 16.10 is a little larger (up from 1.4GB to 1.5GB). OMGUbuntu talks about the new features (condensed): Ubuntu 16.10 is not a big update over Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, released back in April. If you were hoping it'd be a compelling or must-have upgrade you'll be sadly disappointed. There are a number of small improvements to the Unity desktop and the Compiz window manager that powers it. Improvements that help everything work that little bit faster, and that little bit smoother. Ubuntu 16.10 also performs better in virtual machines thanks to the new Unity Low Graphics Mode. An all-new version of the Nautilus file manager also features, and is packed with some significant UI and UX differences. Plus, as always, there's a newer Linux kernel to enjoy.
Hasn't it been Linux Mint for a while?
The latest versions. You mean, the last 22 ones or so?
Maybe you should try Neon? It's the latest Ubuntu LTS with the latest KDE binaries on top.
ubuntu comes with a no systemd option.
anyone here knows if http://lubuntu.net/ will use LXQT (instead of LXDE) by default on 16.10?
I have always upgraded Ubuntu to the latest version. But 16.04 is LTS and the rate of change is not very high (it was long since I needed to upgrade to get something I did not have access to in the earlier version). So I think about remaining on LTS, for the first time ever. Thoughts on that?
Try neon. Plasma 5.8 LTS is baller
It's enough for limited internal testing. Who do you think the real QA team is here? Yup everyone who updates. I'll wait a while.
Signature v3.0, now with 42% less memory usage.
https://neon.kde.org/faq
Sounds like it's basically just Kubuntu with a preinstalled KDE PPA. Given that it has it's own page under KDE's domain, I'm sure it's more than just a teenager in his basement hacking it together, but like all things in open source it all depends on having people willing to do the work. As far as the upgrade, it says it's possible in the aforementioned FAQ... at your own risk of course. You'd probably have to read a bit more depending on what software you use, it sounds like things that are dependent and the KDE 4 libraries might break, so that may or may not be an issue for you. Otherwise you can always give it a shot, just make sure you keep track of every step involved in the process so that if everything goes tits up you are prepared to reverse it.
ubuntu comes with a no systemd option.
Good to know.
- How does one use it?
- How do you KNOW no systemd hair is still tangled in your system?
- Do all the components work correctly when you opt out of systemd? Nothing breaks or performs substantially more poorly?
- Are they all supported as well in both environments? No obscure "gotcha"s?
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
No, it will not.
Or, you can do without that unity crap and get the minimal install with only the things that are required to boot the system and install the rest. No graphics but you can install it later.
http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/net...
The good thing with this is that you have a very customizable system but it is still Ubuntu, so it tends to be well supported by third parties. Debian has a minimal install too and it is pretty much interchangeable with Ubuntu.
Ironically, 11.04 was a version I liked fine. It "offered" Unity (smooth, but empty), then after you spent a couple minute wondering how you get to launch a second terminal rather than constantly bringing the first one back, you could log out and choose a fully featured Gnome 2 instead.
12.04 seemed fine but on the machines I installed it on, it suffered a little name change and got called "Linux Mint 13" instead. I'd almost go back to it. I used to look forward new versions as they'd be faster, less buggy, now it's more about whether the support for my graphics card will worsen, if there's some random regression or if there's some new GTK3 goo (not a big problem currently for me. GTK3 open/save dialog seems to have improved even).
Honest question: in what use case does systemd bother you?
I'm in a startup, still on angel funding and strapped for resources, building a multi-layered platform. One of the four-or-more layers is implemented on a machine about the power of a smartphone/credit-card-computer in the raspberry/beaglebone/etc. class. That layer needs an O.S., and it's internet-facing, so it needs to be secure - and auditable.
Posix-compatible OSes, such as Linux, should be ideal. But there's that little matter of being reasonably sure that they're not full of security holes or reliability issues, and doing so on a shoestring, using a handfull of people who have a LOT of OTHER stuff to do in order to get through the market window before the wolf gets to our door.
Even if systemd were solid as a rock and the best thing in init systems since pre-slicing was applied to bread, it's an extra complication - with its fingers in a lot of pies. That makes security auditing much harder and more time consuming. And THAT makes it "more expensive than money" for us - to the point that the current move of Linux versions to systemd may drive us to abandon Linux entirely for something else. (OpenBSD would be one contender. A plethora of other, stripped-down-to-minimal-functionality, OSes also come to mind.) (The main reason we haven't done so already is that we can't afford that effort, either, until our concept's proven and we must bite the security bullet in order to ship.)
One of the great things about pre-systemd Unix and unix-like systems was the design philosophy, which explicitly drove strong modularity, with simple modules that did single jobs and were easy to check - or encapsulate. (This was one of its big advantages over things like Windows, where all the apps were in bed with each other and any security hole in one became a security hole in many.) Systemd violates that philosophy.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way