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The Universe Has 20 Times More Galaxies Than We Thought (gizmodo.com)

A new study by a team of international astronomers has produced some astounding results: they concluded that the universe contains at least two trillion galaxies -- as much as 20 times more than previously thought. The study adds that 90 percent of all galaxies are hidden from us. This hidden portion can't be seen even with our most powerful telescopes. Gizmodo adds: Consequently, this means we also have to update the number of stars in the observable universe, which now numbers around 700 sextillion (that's a 7 with 23 zeros behind it, or 700 thousand billion billion). And that's just within the observable universe. Because the cosmos emerged some 13.8 billion years ago, we're only able to observe objects up to a certain distance from Earth. Anything outside this "Hubble Bubble" is invisible to us because the light from these distant objects simply haven't had enough time to reach us. It's difficult -- if not impossible -- to know how many galaxies reside outside this cosmological blind spot.

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  1. Re:So how does this affect the Drake Equation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's very probable. But since we also know that the Periodic Table of Elements is universal, as well as the fundamental forces, we also know things like warp drive are just not feasible...

    So they are over there, and we are here. End of story.

  2. Re:Does this change then the need for dark matter? by suutar · · Score: 4, Informative

    as far as I can tell it doesn't matter - dark matter is invoked to explain why individual galaxies don't fall apart, because the mass we can see doesn't seem to be enough to keep it together at the rate they spin; having more galaxies doesn't change that.

    (I find it amusing that dark matter is handwaving why big things don't fly apart and dark energy is handwaving why bigger things do :) But I'm weird :)

  3. Re:Wait by Plus1Entropy · · Score: 4, Informative

    The speed of light limits how fast you can travel through space. The expansion of the universe is due to space itself expanding, and there is no limit (as far as we know) to how fast this can happen.

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  4. Read The Fine Paper by Netdoctor · · Score: 5, Informative

    So I had to click around awhile, but here's the actual paper:

    http://www.spacetelescope.org/...

    For some of us, it makes a huge difference if we're reading the actual paper, or trying to understand the watered-down version on a click-bait site.

  5. Re:So how does this affect the Drake Equation? by gQuigs · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Drake Equation just deals with our galaxy, so it doesn't have any effect.

    I believe it was limited as such because it would be "more feasible" to have a meaningful conversation with a species in this galaxy thanks to the distances involved.

  6. Re:Drake Equation.... by Quirkz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Short answer is, it multiplies the number by 20. Drake equation is just a string of multipliers. One of them reflects the total number of worlds. 20x more galaxies is 20x more worlds. (Assuming the extra 19 galaxies are of equivalent size.)

  7. Re:Drake Equation.... by cfalcon · · Score: 5, Informative

    It doesn't. The Drake equation only applies to the Milky Way. If you want to expand the Drake equation to the entirety of the universe, you take whatever number you get from the Drake equation, and multiply by the number of galaxies in the universe, which keeps being revised upwards with more detection. So at minimum, you are looking at whatever your Drake equation is times a hundred billion.

  8. Re:Drake Equation == 1 by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FTL travel might be impossible via acceleration

    How do you get from a velocity of "a bit" to a velocity of "a fucking fucking bastard fucking lot" without accelerating?

    Understand I do not believe the following to be true, but they are answers that fit...

    1} We discover that the universe is a simulation and learn how to edit parts of it, like X/Y/Z coordinates.
    2} We discover unforeseen properties of the universe below our current observable/theorized smallest qualities that allow bypassing conventional transit.
    3} We discover access to what is best described as "parallel universes" and can step from one to another, selecting specific parameters as differences between them, such as "my location".

    Again, I don't buy any of those as likely. And #2 is nebulous at best. But the point the OP was making is that our understanding of the universe is not yet complete and given a long period of time, the discoveries yet to be made may be very, very startling to someone of our time period. Things we currently think impossible may be possible, just because our understanding of possible is incomplete. This mindset isn't science-fiction... it's just being humble. Speculating precisely what discoveries will be made and how they will work... that's fiction. But believing that we don't have an exhaustive understanding of physics is just sensible.

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  9. Re:Does this change then the need for dark matter? by painandgreed · · Score: 4, Informative

    (I find it amusing that dark matter is handwaving why big things don't fly apart and dark energy is handwaving why bigger things do :) But I'm weird :)

    Galactic rotation curves was just the first bit of observational evidence that we saw over 80 years ago. Since then, every other explaination has been shown not to be the case. Since then, there have been many other observed evidence such as gravitational lensing, fluctuations in the CBR, etc. which is all under Observational Evidence under the Dark Matter Wikipedia page. All have been pointing more and more towards matter than only interacts via gravity, while all other competing theories fail to explain other observations. Furthermore, it tends to be called dark matter, and dark energy, energy, because they end up with unknowns that have specific units, and when those units are those of mass or energy, they get called mass and energy.