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Yahoo Explains Why It Recently Disable Automatic Forwarding On Yahoo Mail; Reinstates the Feature (businessinsider.com)

Earlier this month, Yahoo disabled the auto-forwarding feature from its Yahoo Mail email service, leaving people with little choice but to use Yahoo Mail client to check the emails their received on their Yahoo account. The company has now acknowledged the issue, explaining why it all happened, and most importantly, switched email forwarding feature on again. From a BusinessInsider report: "Why the pause? Over the past year, Yahoo Mail has been upgrading its platform. This has allowed us to bring a better search experience to Yahoo Mail, add multiple account support, and improve performance as we quickly scale this new system globally. The feature was temporarily disabled as part of this process," Michael Albers, VP of Yahoo Mail product management, wrote in a blog post. To turn on mail forwarding, go to Settings -- Account in Yahoo Mail and enter your forwarding address. After confirming that you, in fact, control that other address, automatic forwarding should be turned on.

51 comments

  1. Yoohoo Is My Favorite Chocolately Drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a shame they make so many poor decisions.

  2. This answer is total BS by gweilo8888 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If it was simply turned off as part of the upgrade process, it would have been turned back on again silently, without the user having to take action. The fact we're told we have to reenable it shows quite clearly that Yahoo disabled it to prevent folks jumping ship, and has only begrudgingly turned it back on to try and squash the bad publicity that its move generated. It's clearly hoping that most users who would otherwise have used the feature won't realize it has been turned back on.

    1. Re:This answer is total BS by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Informative

      IIRC, they did not disable the feature for people who were already using it - so there was nothing to switch back on.

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    2. Re:This answer is total BS by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right. This has soured me to Yahoo even more than I was before. Not only do they make terrible decisions, they lie to the consumer and act like they think we're fools.

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    3. Re:This answer is total BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You used Yahoo, so they've already proven THAT point. . .

    4. Re:This answer is total BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is a very important point. They temporarily disabled setting a new mail forward while they put in a new system.
      The new one checks to make sure you control the new address before spamming your poor victim.
      Yahoo sucks, but they got this one right.

    5. Re:This answer is total BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IIRC, they did not disable the feature for people who were already using it - so there was nothing to switch back on.

      I cannot find anything anywhere to support that statement.

      But this is corporate America we have here. They are to be considered liars until proven otherwise.

      And they deserve every bit of that cynicism because it's their karma.

    6. Re:This answer is total BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FWIW, I have a Yahoo account which is forwarded to my Gmail account. I noticed no interruption in my email forwards, which is somewhat unlikely to happen in my opinion.

    7. Re:This answer is total BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I cannot find anything anywhere to support that statement.

      From last Monday...

      While those who have set up forwarding in the past are unaffected[...]

    8. Re:This answer is total BS by ottott · · Score: 2

      That statement is NOT true! If you had mail forwarding enabled, you will have to manually go and re-enable it yourself. I just confirmed this with my own account.

    9. Re:This answer is total BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this story is to be believed, then yes, that is correct.

      But it still feels like a BS answer. Why? Because assuming it is true, why not announce ahead of time "hey, we're going to be temporarily disabling the ability to setup new mail forwarding"? Surely they are smart enough to realize that people may get the wrong impression if it just silently becomes unavailable, right?

    10. Re:This answer is total BS by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      I think the reason is as stated, "This has allowed us to bring a better search experience to Yahoo Mail".
      They simply needed to be sure they could search your forwarded email as well as your inbox.

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    11. Re:This answer is total BS by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Except this wasn't the case yesterday when people reported it. It looks like the "fix" has caused you the problem.

    12. Re:This answer is total BS by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      If it was simply turned off as part of the upgrade process, it would have been turned back on again silently, without the user having to take action

      The fact that users had to take action at all and had a feature temporarily and without notice disabled in a production environment speaks volumes too.

      Yahoo can pick one or two of the following:
      1. Wilfully and nefariously forcing users to stay on their system.
      2. Grossly incompetent at system upgrades on production servers.

    13. Re:This answer is total BS by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The new one checks to make sure you control the new address before spamming your poor victim.
      Yahoo sucks, but they got this one right.

      While that sort of a check might be reasonable, it absolutely was not "right" to roll out a new system without having e-mail forwarding in place. To get it "right", they should have had their new system ready to go before rolling it out.

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    14. Re:This answer is total BS by Arnold+Reinhold · · Score: 1

      Given their massive data breach, requiring users to re-establish any forwarding addresses is not a bad security move.

    15. Re:This answer is total BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was done on purpose to make everyone go reconfirm it.
      That's the part they aren't saying.

    16. Re:This answer is total BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? My yahoo forwarding was certainly working just fine yesterday: I know because it forwarded mail to my main mail account. Has the change-over switched it off?

    17. Re:This answer is total BS by DavidRawling · · Score: 1

      Why not both?

    18. Re: This answer is total BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine for a moment that they had an emergency because a scammer was automatically breaking into accounts, silently turning on mail forwarding to another address and then vanishing.

      Months later, that attacker can now intercept all password change emails and break into your account, even if you change the password.

      By having a more thorough system to prove the account holders of both email addresses are the same, this attack goes away. Building such a system takes a few weeks though, and in the meantime, setting up new forward in rules is disabled to protect existing customers.

    19. Re:This answer is total BS by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Why not both?

      Because someone doesn't know what "one or two" means ;-)

    20. Re: This answer is total BS by nachtelfjeiu · · Score: 1

      Should have and could have. No reason was provided why the feature had to be disabled during the upgrade process. So for the lack of transparency and suspicious conditions I'm calling BS on this argument until Yahoo explains otherwise.

  3. "should be"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the hell does he mean by that?

  4. Yea first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And also, bulllllllsssshhhhiiiiitttttt

    She's just trying to save the sinking ship and can't imagine anyone else is as smart as her and could catch on.

  5. Fuck you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Upgrading your platform requires disabling mail-forwarding at a time people flock to every mail provider that's not yahoo? Fuck you. Fuck you for doing it, fuck you for trying to explain it away, fuck you for still being around. Also: Fuck you.

  6. Run from Yahoo ASAP by ITRambo · · Score: 2

    Anyone still using Yahoo needs to jump ship as Yahoo will never be a great company, especially if Verizon purchases it.

    1. Re:Run from Yahoo ASAP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As much as I dislike Verizon as a company, I have a higher opinion of them than Yahoo!

      I'm having trouble thinking of a company other than Yahoo that could succeed in further damaging Verizon's reputation.

    2. Re:Run from Yahoo ASAP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AOL? Comcast? Time Warner? Halliburton?

    3. Re:Run from Yahoo ASAP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haliburton is critical to keeping the lights on. Verizon, however, has very deliberately kept us stuck in the previous century through their collusion with AT&T.

    4. Re:Run from Yahoo ASAP by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The thing with those old accounts, is you don't so much jump ship as you simply cast that ship adrift and start using one of your others. If it comes back, it comes back, if it doesn't you just continue to let it drift out in cyberspace, with that ginormous fleet of other cast adrift use account ships, that accountants continue to claim in their sales figures, ghost ships (especially taking into account deceased users)

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  7. Real answer by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We wanted to make sure it was as hard as possible for people to leave until our deal with Verizon went through, as more users equals more money for the deal. It was especially important once people became aware of our massive data breach. But now we need the good PR because Verizon is having second thoughts about the proposed deal and wants to renegotiate terms.

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    1. Re:Real answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they had to disable automatic forwarding so they could install the surveillance feature.

    2. Re:Real answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they had to disable forwarding as the NSA reqested they be set as the forwarding address for all accounts, and the system only permitted one forward.

      FTFY

  8. Yahoo's eternal upgrade by epine · · Score: 1

    Now Yahoo just needs to explain what system or software or mental competence they're in the middle of upgrading that causes them not to tell people what's about to happen before it happens.

    Sure hope Competence 11.0 is finally the one that ignites self-perception.

  9. Refund by jlv · · Score: 0

    All of you unhappy Yahoo email users should cancel your accounts and ask for a full refund.

    1. Re:Refund by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      At&t sends all of my bills and notifications to the premium yahoo mail account that comes with the dsl service so I have all mail from there forwarded to a yahoo address that actually gets checked occasionally.

      But it almost always puts the forwarded bills in the spam folder and I don't know why.

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    2. Re:Refund by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good idea. This means they send *me* a check in the amount of the advertising revenue they earned off me over the years, right?

  10. Corrected Yahoo's to reflect Real Reason by Striikerr · · Score: 1

    "Why the pause? Over the past year, Yahoo Mail has been upgrading its platform. This has allowed us to bring a better search experience for the NSA to Yahoo Mail, add multiple account support, and improve performance as we quickly scale this new system globally. .."
    The NSA needed some improvements for their special search tools. :P

    1. Re: Corrected Yahoo's to reflect Real Reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are so clever. The NSA jokes never get old. Stupid. Not clever. You need to reevaluate your style of writing jokes. If you listed them all, would they just be phrases other people write but you just insert 'NSA bla bla'?

  11. I call bullshit by ilsaloving · · Score: 2

    If this was a required move as part of whatever upgrade they were doing, they would have notified people beforehand to expect it.

    The most charitable explanation is that their management is incompetent in failing to provide that heads up.

    The most likely explanation was that they quietly tried to close the door on people trying to jump ship, and now they're backpedalling because of the uproar.

    I haven't touched Yahoo for many years now, and it seems like they've made it their mission to justify my departure as much as possible.

    1. Re:I call bullshit by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity," which anyone who has been watching Yahoo flounder the past few years will tell you that when it comes to such a poorly run company? Hanlon's razor definitely applies.

      I just wonder if Verizon is gonna do the smart thing and bail out of the deal, apparently there is wording in the contract that if material issues come to light that Yahoo didn't disclose (like a half a billion emails hacked or handing everything over to the NSA) Verizon has the right to bail without penalty. If anybody at Verizon has any sense at all? They will go "whew dodged a bullet" and say bye bye to Yahoo which after the latest stink probably isn't even worth a half a billion and that would strictly be for patents and datamining, the rest of the company including their email I wouldn't give a plug nickel for.

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  12. Real Reason Yahoo! disabled Email Forwarding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Real reason Yahoo! disabled email forwarding, all the emails and logins they're leaking to the feds without a warrant they want people to login with a landline cable/dsl connection so they can have a geolocation for the account to go along with all your emails to the feds.

  13. Go Go go! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just e-mailed my neighbour to tell her that she might want to finally switch NOW before they try this again.

    The excuse... Well, if you're buying it, I have a bridge to sell you...

  14. Editor? What editor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For $deity's sake msmash, read the shit at least once before you submit, will you? Maybe at least the title?!?!

  15. It Wasn't Disabled At All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Automatic Forwarding feature was actually working. Your email was just re-routed to a 3-letter agency for safe-keeping.

  16. joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First gain access to your Yahoo accounts,if you can !!
    I have been trying to access some very old Yahoo accounts for over ten years,the accounts are still active,I just cannot access any of them,I know I am using the correct credential because I wrote them down and still have the papers,but no matter what I try to access any of them I just get sent in a loop,sending new passwords to other email accounts that were closed down by providers years ago,or wanting to send texts to phone Sims that I have not had for 8+ years !!!
    Yahoo's post "customer support" is as big a joke as the rest of their services,I have now sent them 30+ emails explaining the situation to them and have never even received an auto reply mail,let alone any help.
    All I want to do is access about 12 old emails and about 25 old photos of my daughter when she was young,due to hard drive death and closure of cloud storage accounts by providers,which is why now I only use cloud storage from the big firms like Amazon and Google for important stuff I might want/need in 5 years time...

  17. Business Insider didn't like my ad-blocker, so.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I closed that tab and didn't read the article....screw em.....

  18. "A better search experience to Yahoo Mail" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah... they want to make it even easier for them to snoop through your shit.

  19. Spam honeypot by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

    I've had a yahoo email account for a very long time. I wanted to try it out soon after they introduced the service. After setting up my account, I immediately began receiving spam, and that was without ever sending an email from that account, or telling anyone about the address. Once every year or two, I go back and check on it, just to see if Yahoo has gotten better at getting rid of spam. They haven't. My inbox there is still overflowing with brand new spam messages, despite never having used the service.

    By contrast, my GMail inbox is nearly always spam-free. I receive dozens per day, but GMail accurately filters out all of them, rarely making a mistake either way.

    I have no desire to forward my Yahoo email to any other place.

    1. Re:Spam honeypot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, when you created your yahoo mail account.... you did check the options to say you didn't want to be publicly visible in Yahoo!'s directory, right? RIGHT?
      Oh, you didn't? Then you've got yourself to blame.

      But, aside from that, as a longterm Y! Mail user, I can verify that in the last several years the count of spam that gets into my Inbox (as opposed to the Spam filter) is ridiculously low. Like one per month, maybe. Yes, my Spam box is pretty full - tends to happen when you actively use an email address that somebody else gets compromised sooner or later... then you get spam.

      So, do you not understand how email works, are you implying that Y's hack spilled your address out (which I'll stipulate can be true,) are you falsely implying Y's spam filters don't work, or are you just a plain old Google shill? Probably all four is my guess.