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Transcripts of Clinton's Wall Street Talks Released in New Wikileaks Dump (reuters.com)

Emily Stephenson and Luciana Lopez, reporting for Reuters: U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's full remarks to several Wall Street audiences appeared to become public on Saturday when the controversial transparency group Wikileaks dumped its latest batch of hacked emails. The documents showed comments by Clinton during question-and-answer sessions with Goldman Sachs Chief Executive Lloyd Blankfein and Tim O'Neill, the bank's head of investment management, at three separate events in 2013 in Arizona, New York and South Carolina. Some excerpts of Clinton's speeches had already been released. For more than a week, Wikileaks has published in stages what it says are hacked emails from the account of John Podesta, Clinton's campaign chairman. Clinton came under fire for months for not releasing full details of her paid speeches to big business audiences, as opponents accused her of a cozy relationship with bankers and other members of the U.S. financial system.

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  1. Too Late by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The should have released this stuff when she was running against Bernie. This isn't going to change any minds now. Everyone knows now what she is and they're voting for her because of Trump or voting for Trump because of her. The stage was set weeks ago and the only thing that would change it now is absolute proof she killed someone. That's probably worth 5 or 6 points in the polls.

    1. Re:Too Late by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The should have released this stuff when she was running against Bernie.

      Everybody knew (and still knows) she's in bed with Wall Street. That was probably the main issue that let Bernie get to the populist/left side of her.

      She changed her tune to neutralize that advantage, but no one seriously believes she's going to get tough on Wall Street.

      This is more non-scandal in search of a headline. But everyone should have forseen that as soon as they saw "Wikileaks".

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    2. Re:Too Late by quantaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      people will forgive Trump for daring to say "p***y" off the record. There's still another three weeks, and I think by then people will realize that no matter how outraged they are at Trump saying a "bad word"

      No one gave a shit that Trump said pussy.

      People cared that Trump bragged about being able to grab women's pussy without consent, aka sexual assault.

      And then a bunch of came forward to say that for once Trump was telling the truth, and his habit of sexually assaulting women was very real.

      Of course if they ever do get bored they can start talking about how he's telling his followers that they have to watch out or minorities are going to steal the election. I'm actually wondering at this point, is he deliberately trying to cause election day violence?

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    3. Re: Too Late by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But honestly who cares?

      I certainly don't care if Frump is a dog to women in his personal life...

      Your mom.

      Your sister.

      Your girlf--oh, silly me.

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    4. Re:Too Late by tburkhol · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So, when he said "they let you do it" there's actually no "they let you" in that sentence?

      The quote is "When you're a star, they let you." Like you "let" your boss call you an idiot. "When you're a star," you can use your fame and money to abuse people, because they know they can't fight back. "When you're a star," people will let you do things that they would never consent to.

    5. Re: Too Late by cyber-vandal · · Score: 4, Informative

      Men that treat women like shit are well known for their lack of success with them /s

    6. Re:Too Late by RandomSurfer314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is all bullshit, both the critique on Trump and this alleged email scandal.

      These are both pseudo-scandals and the obvious result of concerted, well-orchestrated media campaigns. In my opinion, both parties run disgusting and immoral smear campaigns, and it really saddens me that (apparently) American voters are so easy to influence and distract from the real topics. Yes, I know that US presidential campaigns have always been a lot about the personality of the candidates, but I've followed many of them and this one is an absolute low so far. And just to make this clear, the Democrats are just as much to blame for this as Trump. There are no real arguments and only personal attacks on both sides, it's a disgrace.

      The thought frightens me that the next president of the most important nation on earth (in terms of economic and military power) could be elected, because two days before election someone publishes a video in which the other candidate says "woah, what a nice piece of ass", or the next president could be elected because two days before the election an email shows up in which the other candidate writes "fuck those idiots in Benghazi, they died because they were incompetent" -- or whatever people dig out from the past (up to 30 years ago) or from dubious unconfirmed Internet sources and "leak" to the press.

      It's not really my business, but if I were a US voter, I'd completely and deliberately ignore Trump's real or alleged misogyny and whatever emails Clinton has deleted or not, ignore all this mud slinging, and instead make a decision on the basis of the policies and plans that the candidates have laid out. If Clinton and Trump are really the "creme de la creme" of US politics and the whole nation really cannot come up with better candidates for the highest office, please at least make political issues count.

    7. Re: Too Late by skids · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was kinda torn when all this sex stuff started coming out. I stopped even considering voting for Trump before the campaign even started, when he was jumping around cable stations with the birther nonsense, but even had he not exposed himself as a huckster that way, I would have disqualified him when the Trump University story surfaced... and never looked back because nothing they've dug up on Clinton is more than just run of the mill political favoritism which we've survived as a nation for practically all of our history. But then the hits just kept on coming against Trump -- the anti-intellectualism, the continued appeal to the worst parts of his supporter's nature, the charity frauds, the compulsive blatant lying, the compete lack of experience or understanding.... on and on and on with reasons not to vote for this farce.

      But since I'd figure Trump University should have kept him from even being nominated by the Republicans, much less polling well in the general, one part of me wanted to say "Really, you were all set to vote for a guy who ran con schemes to steal money from rank and file regular people until some sex stuff came up? That's what it took?" (And incidentally if were really as rich as he says, then the only reason he'd even have done Trump University is out of some perverse P.T. Barnum source of sadistic amusement... take your pick he's either lying about his money, or an economic psychopath.)

      But on the other hand the degree of offense evident in the sex material and the overall tone of that campaign towards women is so atrocious the other part of me is like, well, on balance it may be one of the biggest, steamiest turds, on the pile. So even though it took the public so friggin long to realize just how awful Trump is, at least they ended up fixating on one of the more compelling reasons.

  2. Just reruns, filtered thru trolls by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For the most part, it's the same speeches she gives on the campaign trail. Her detractors comb through to find some interpretation that can be spun as sinister, and dance around the news cams with it like a kid who found his lost jaw breaker under the couch.

  3. Why is nobody mentioning the content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's strange that the news is almost entirely about the release of the remarks and, at least in linked article, no mention of what those remarks are. Could it be that the remarks aren't actually interesting or even newsworthy?

    1. Re:Why is nobody mentioning the content by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's strange that the news is almost entirely about the release of the remarks and, at least in linked article, no mention of what those remarks are. Could it be that the remarks aren't actually interesting or even newsworthy?

      More the likely. Also look at the day it's released - I mean, it wasn't released on a day known for big news. Similar to the Friday Afternoon Dump, you release on these days when it's really bad for you, the releaser.

      These leaks themselves aren't terribly interesting. So the only thing Wikileaks is cashing in on is goodwill based on earlier leaks that news of leaks is news itself.

      And if you're curious, it's likely a political play by Assange - apparently Ecuador is going to have a presidential election and the current president, Rafael Correa, is not running for another term. This scares Assange because it could easily mean the end to his asylum, and if he's handed over to the US, he'd rather be under a president Trump than Clinton. Perhaps hoping he'd at least get a pardon or something out of it. That's the political play, at least

  4. Groping by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm actually wondering at this point, is he deliberately trying to cause election day violence?

    Nah- what's happening here is that he knows he's going to lose, and he's desperately groping for excuses.

  5. Two points ... by golodh · · Score: 4, Insightful
    (1) On reading reports of the transcripts on Fox news and CNN it's striking how moderate and sensible Mrs. Clinton's remarks are. If these transcripts are "news" I think they're good publicity for Mrs. Clinton. It shows that she'll think twice before laying into Wall Street. Regardless of whether or not you like her, her opinions and policies are well thought through and make sense.

    .

    People bashing Wall Street forget the following :

    (a) we (the electorate) have busily shaped the societal and legal environment in which Wall Street could become what it is now. Republicans have always vigorously supported business *in all of its facets) and Wall Street, with Democrats coming in closely behind. That policy has served us well, but is now starting to show some cracks. Time to figure out the minimum change required to fix that. That requires ingenuity. Lots of people see their personal interest compromised (job loss, no perspectives, feeling of not being needed by society, etc.), get "as mad as hell" and demand instant action. Well, they won't get it. Not with either candidate. One tells then they won't get instant gratification (but more of the same instead), the other does (sort of), but is so obviously clueless that his word is worth nothing.

    (b) the idea of "Give Enterprise a Free Run and only regulate when the body count becomes too high to ignore" is part and parcel of our society and our culture. There certainly is a lot of anger and an appetite for "change", but I still can't get my head around what it actually wants. It's not prepared to accept the consequence that more prevention means less freedom. Being proactive with policy, (or even enforcing existing laws aimed at e.g. environmental protection) is violently opposed (sometime literally with guns in hand). Take for example that Bundy fellow. In violation of federal laws. Lost several court cases. Shouts his head off in the counterculture media, assembles a band of rogue hillbillies that actually point guns as federal officers. Is cheered on by a certain segment of society, and actually gets away with it. Unlike a steady trickle of you-know-who's who are shot dead in or near their car by police officers for making a false move or not complying fast enough or clearly enough with officers' commands..

    (c)" Wall street is the nexus of how we as a country manage wealth. It's a giant market that can (and does) set a price on goods, services, policies, and lives. In doing that, it is a forum that co-shapes a certain part of our national decision making. In that sense it's what has always set the US apart from e.g. the Soviet Union (plan economy) or China. You don't steer or reform a market like that by dropping corporate taxes to 10% as some Republicans (among which a presidential candidate) propose, prohibiting municipalities from offering public services that compete with private enterprise (think broadband initiatives), or annulling wide swaths of environmental protection laws. You might be able to steer it by imposing regulations. Not so much regulations on how it's supposed to trade, but laws that regulate what it's trading in. Well ... try that and watch the (mostly conservative) nay-sayers come out of the woodwork in force. It's also a major source of our wealth. We need it and we should regulate it only with care and insight. To dump on a presidential candidate for displaying that insight is beyond ridiculous. It's adversarial politics.

    (d) It so happens I would have preferred Sen. Sanders to be the Democratic candidate. Or at least see a substantial part of his views acted upon and some of his policies enacted. But there is simply no support for that. The inertia of mainstream politics (well, lets be thankful for that) and Wall-street related views. So it's compromise time. We're going to get a much more business-friendly candidate. Oh, and in case anyone wishes to cavil about Wall Street's influence on politics, remember the rulings those fine Conservative gents on the Supreme Court handed down? Com

    1. Re:Two points ... by NotAPK · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "(a) we (the electorate) have busily shaped the societal and legal environment in which Wall Street could become what it is now."

      No we haven't. The vast majority of the population has been too busy working 2-3 jobs to make ends meet. The concentration of wealth created by Wall St has become self fulfilling, since that wealth makes it possible for banking interests to influence politics directly through lobbying, or bribery. The democratic process is significantly distorted and representation is no longer proportional.

      This is part of the problem.

      Ideas like those here are part of the solution.

  6. Re:".....Wikileaks Dump" by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just can't wait for the "Trump Dump" !

    Here ya go.

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  7. Just not news because it's just nothing new by XXongo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you already hate Hillary: all that's there is "look! More emails proving that Hillary is exactly like what we've been saying she's exactly like for the last twenty years!

    If you don't already hate Hillary, all that's there is "look! More emails that really don't say anything new."

    Either way, it's just not news.