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CO2 To Ethanol In One Step With Cheap Catalyst (sciencedaily.com)

Reader networkBoy writes: Boffins at ORNL (Department of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory) have discovered a simple and cheap catalyst that can take CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) dissolved in solution with water and at room temperature convert it to ethanol with 60%+ yields. They envision it as a way to store surplus power from green energy plants and then burning it to fill in lulls in supply.From the report:The team used a catalyst made of carbon, copper and nitrogen and applied voltage to trigger a complicated chemical reaction that essentially reverses the combustion process. With the help of the nanotechnology-based catalyst which contains multiple reaction sites, the solution of carbon dioxide dissolved in water turned into ethanol with a yield of 63 percent. Typically, this type of electrochemical reaction results in a mix of several different products in small amounts. "We're taking carbon dioxide, a waste product of combustion, and we're pushing that combustion reaction backwards with very high selectivity to a useful fuel," Rondinone said. "Ethanol was a surprise -- it's extremely difficult to go straight from carbon dioxide to ethanol with a single catalyst."

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  1. Re:Cost? by Hussman32 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    His/her question is good, and the summary is incomplete. It converts CO2 to CH3CH2OH at a yield of about 63%, but what CO2 concentration in the water are they assuming? Average soda concentration is about 0.12-0.15 M (moles per liter) at about 4 bar. That would mean you'd get 0.05 M alcohol (2 carbons per EtOH from one carbon in CO2, 0.5*0.63*0.15), which is 0.05 moles EtOH/55.5 moles water or about 0.08 percent alcohol by volume. That's a lot less than the ethanol conversion you'd get from corn.

    It did not mention the catalyst materials cost, nor the materials processing required to make a nanomaterial.

    So we'd have energy costs by compressing CO2, then converting it using the catalyst, then there would be ethanol separation costs (with requisite electricity/natural gas from the distillation columns) from water that far exceed normal ethanol separation, and the ethanol would still have about 10% water because it is an azeotrope,so then you'd need another liquid-liquid extraction...

    As is the case with the other carbon dioxide conversion schemes, it's really cool chemistry, looks good in summary, but the details render it ineffective for practical use.

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  2. Re:one in every home? by glenebob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmm, it seems the laws of thermodynamics are being overlooked here...

  3. Re:VODKA! by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nah, we don't normally care if yeast die by the billions, and they're exceedingly unlikely to initiate an armed revolt to avoid starving to death.

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