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It Looks Like Apple is Killing the Physical Esc and Power Keys On New MacBook Pro

Curious minds on the internet have uncovered an image file on their Mac, which was added by Apple in the latest macOS update. The image reveals a new laptop that fully fits the description of rumored MacBook Pro, which Apple is expected to launch on October 27. The laptop in the picture has what seems like a "contextual" OLED display (some are calling it Magic Toolbar display) on the top. What's interesting from that picture is that there's no physical Escape key or Power key to be found anywhere.

Editor's note: We usually tend to avoid covering leaks and rumors, but several readers pitched the story to us, and media outlets are also covering it now, which adds some credibility to the matter.

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  1. How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by hey! · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just joking. Of course we'll all just have to change our key bindings.

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    1. Re:How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by red_dragon · · Score: 2

      Of course, this change makes using vi damn near impossible. This is all part of the Eric Conspiracy to force us to use Emacs.

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    2. Re: How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 2

      Which is why it's called an "Escape" key. You use it under exceptional conditions. You don't want it underfoot, but when you need it, it needs to be there.

      Pretty soon, people will be able to use real Apple hardware to insult Nigerian scammers, instead of sending a cardboard P-P-P-P-Powerbook.

    3. Re:How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      maybe the Esc key will be available as an over priced dongle?

    4. Re:How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Informative

      You have a problem with CTRL+[? Works on everything I've used so far, except for the blasted TVI-950, which always sends CTRL+].

      You must live in a country which has a nice '[' key on the keyboard. Most keyboards in the world access those symbols with Alt-Gr.

      (Sucks to be them, I know...but this will make it suck even worse)

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    5. Re: How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by bn-7bc · · Score: 2

      Hmm try hanging eindows in irssi (default key bindings) without using esc, iwould not call chaninging windows in an irc client an exeptional condotion would you?

    6. Re: How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by bn-7bc · · Score: 2

      I've got to sttart actualy reading my own posts befoe submiting :( the first senrence was supposed to be "hmm try changing windows in irssi......". Come ro think of it how du you dugest I get out of insert mode in vim without using esc?

    7. Re:How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by presidenteloco · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Ctrl+Anything is not ergonomic.

      If you spend serious hours and days and weeks and months and years programming or doing IT admin, your hands will get damaged with the repeated stretches and twists needed to do Ctrl+whatever. You might say there are two-handed alternatives to the twisty-stretchy ones, but two handed gestures are prone to failure by reversed order of press.

      These are all small details, yes, but ergonomic details make the difference when you have to do things thousands and thousands of times.

      Esc is a single key action.

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    8. Re: How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which is why it's called an "Escape" key. You use it under exceptional conditions. You don't want it underfoot, but when you need it, it needs to be there.

      First they came for my floppy drive, and I did not speak out, because floppies were slow and I was glad to be rid of them anyway.

      Then they came for my CD-ROM drive, and I did not speak out, because I appreciated a lighter, more compact laptop.

      Then they came for my headphone jack, and I did not speak out, because I use my damn phone as a phone, not a stereo.

      Then they came for my escape key, and I knew there was no way out.

      They they came for my power button, and there was no one left to hear the perpetual screams.

      And my MacBook, never flickering, still is sitting, still is sitting
      By the pallid bust of Steve Jobs just above my basement door;
      And its screen has all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
      And the process o'er it streaming throws exceptions galore;
      And my soul from out that process started back in days of yore
      Shall be turned off -- nevermore!

    9. Re:How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by Raenex · · Score: 2

      Ctrl+Anything is not ergonomic.

      It's quite ergonomic -- as long as you make caps lock act like control. Just google how to do so for your platform and give caps lock the boot.

    10. Re: How is everyone supposed to use Emacs? by bn-7bc · · Score: 2

      That made mi smil in the morning, thsnk you. On a different note, I was not drunk, I just tend to miss my own typos esp at night when I'm somewahat tired, sorry for any inconvinience :). Have a nice day

  2. Simplicity can only go so far by TodPunk · · Score: 2

    I'm imagining that the "make things better by simplifying" can only go so far. I'm not saying we've definitively reached such a point with Macs, but they keep learning that some of these "refinements" are mistakes, like not being able to right-click. Is trying to reduce vectors of interaction for their devices really their entire legacy?

    Mac is definitely the "simpler" brand, and draws a lot of users from that brand. I just wonder if it's not a long-term shoot-yourself-in-the-foot to limit yourself so (both for their users and for the company itself).

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    1. Re:Simplicity can only go so far by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Been able to right click for decades.... Why do you guys that have zero experience with a MAC keep trying to bring that fake piece of info Up?

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    2. Re:Simplicity can only go so far by saider · · Score: 2

      Reminds me of a Dilbert...

      Dilbert: What makes your product better?
      Salesguy: Well, our keyboard is so simple it only has one button, and we press it for you at the factory.
      Dilbert: What happens when I press the button?
      Salesguy: Woa, Woa, Woa, - I'm getting in over my head here.

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    3. Re:Simplicity can only go so far by npslider · · Score: 2

      Well, on the upside, technically, Apple's new feature is actually a find of Biblical proportions.

      They have done what no other has managed to do. EVER.

      They finally found the ANY key and are giving it to us on a shiny platter.

    4. Re:Simplicity can only go so far by mark-t · · Score: 2

      If this rumor is true, it is one of the few legitimately infuriating things Apple will have done with their products.

      (Raised eyebrow)

      "Few"???

      I'm not sure if you're trying to be deliberately ironic or what....

      I can't recall the last time Apple made a change that actually turned out to be a good one. They've probably done it at some points in the past, but I can't think of any offhand.

    5. Re:Simplicity can only go so far by vux984 · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Been able to right click for decades.... Why do you guys that have zero experience with a MAC keep trying to bring that fake piece of info Up?"

      Decades? Sure, you've been able to right click in OSX for as long as I can remember.

      Sure. Just not with the mice apple sold you.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      From 1983 to 2005 all apple sold was one button mice. The 2005 mighty mouse was the first one that actually had a 'right click'.

      That said the mighty mouse/magic mouse being multitouch devices with capacitive touch continued to make right clicking far less discoverable to users than a typical PC mouse which clearly had 2 clickable surfaces, one on the left, and one on the right.

      And that continues even to today. And frankly the apple might/magic mice are utter garbage; designed for people who spend more time admiring their mouse then using it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    6. Re:Simplicity can only go so far by TodPunk · · Score: 2

      I specifically brought it up as an accessible example of the history. For those that don't use Macs it's an important and well-known example. I don't think it was a poor choice just because of its age.

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    7. Re:Simplicity can only go so far by Shane_Optima · · Score: 2

      Devil's Advocate:

      * Magnetic cables are freakin' awesome but are one of the few things that haven't been widely copied (I'm assuming due to patent or something.)

      * I think the iPad was sort of innovative... was there really no Android version in the works beforehand? I know e-ink readers were pretty widespread before then. Regardless, the "just make a big phone, but without the phone" approach was a very wise choice (even if it was obvious in retrospect) and they certainly deserve kudos they were the first ones to do it. I dearly wish removable keyboards and docks were more widespread and many, many things could be said about the walled gardens and tragic demise of the netbook but on the whole, it's hard not to give them this one.

      * Capacitive screens, while sometimes leading to annoying UIs, never became widespread until after the iPhone[1]. This is a slightly double-edged sword, as it ushered in an era of glass screens, but the net UI win and normal wear and tear durability improvements (i.e. if it doesn't shatter, it can last a lot longer than resistive) can't be ignored. (I did actually own a plastic capacitive touchscreen and it was pretty awesome from a durability standpoint but the friction sucked.)

      * Objective-C is a much better, more optimizable and more elegant language than Java (and Cocoa was a powerful platform long before JVM began to get interesting.) Java would be a pretty horrible language if not for the massive amount of work that's gone into optimizing it and the fact so it does make it a bit harder for mediocre coders to crank out catastrophically bad code.

      * OS X is considerably better than Windows or OS 9. From what I hear. [2]

      * Building on what I allude to in footnote 1, if we're just talking about "changes" here (and not actual industry innovations), anytime Apple has copied an Android feature it's turned out pretty well for them...especially since they always manage to convince people that they were the ones that invented it. They went from " Independent app devs? AhahahahaGo FUCK yourselves. We don't want you crapping up our walled garden!" to millions of dorky freshmen making "there's an app for that!" jokes in just a couple years, and from my understanding you have Google to thank for that.

      * I guess chiclet keyboards aren't that bad... they do tend to be more durable than other laptop keyboards, and they're only slightly more cumbersome to use once you get over the learning curve. But oh, to live in an alternate universe where they stuck a Cherry MX style mechanical keyboard in there and everyone else rushed to copy that instead...

      1. And honestly, the capacitive screen was the only thing they really got right with the iPhone (which was nice, because they were relatively rare/expensive prior to the first iPhone.) Other than that it was pretty goddamn inferior to the G1 and the N800, and they had to play catchup with really basic shit like MMS, 3G speeds (seriously! Who the hell builds an uber-expensive smartphone with a mandatory data plan but only EDGE speeds?) , customizable ringtones and an app marketplace that wasn't a locked-down nightmare. Of course, mainstream culture/media firmly asserts that it was the other way around and Android has supposedly been some crappy knockoff trying to play catchup with Apple.

      2. The sales pitch always sounds pretty weak to me though, when comparing it to any laptop that's known to run your favorite BSD or Linux distro well out of the box: "All of the benefits of *nix except it costs money to upgrade and it's much less configurable and there's a 30% Apple Tax, and there's no low end option at all if you just need a basic workhorse and even older machines on Craigslist sell for twice as much as they should! Yes, you heard that correctly... all of the benefits of *nix!!!!"

      Apple is one of those things you wish you could simply pass on and not have an opinion about (different strokes for different folks), but mainstream culture's rampant and unreasonable obsession forces you to know stuff and develop an opinion whether you want to or not. Detailed, cranky opinions.

  3. Dear /. editors by guruevi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please try to link to a site that does not obtrusively ask for money when you want to see the story. I'm sure there are other sites that have the same coverage without ruining my experience.

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  4. It takes courage to not Esc... by npslider · · Score: 4, Funny

    It takes courage to not Escape.

  5. At long last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks to Apple, we will at last purge the filthy vi heathens. Let the thousand-year reign of emacs begin!

  6. Re:Coming Soon! by npslider · · Score: 2

    I think the Apple Watch is an early Beta of this future product.

  7. Ah, minimialism by ErichTheRed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lenovo did this with their X1 Carbon a while back too. What is the obsession with removing functionality? Sure, Mac users probably don't use the Escape key too much, let alone the function keys. However, Esc has always been the equivalent of Cancel on MacOS and Windows dialog boxes, and terminal-based applications still use it.

    I don't know - I guess I feel old. Yes, hipster apps don't use control keys on luddite keyboards. Apps! But, removing a functional item for purely aesthetic purposes -- which I guarantee is the reason Apple is doing this -- seems to me like a bad precedent to set. People who use their computers for actual work like the idea of a full keyboard, and removing keys from an already-sparse MacBook Pro keyboard doesn't seem like a good way to attract this class of user. You already have to use a combination to get home, end, pgup and pgdn on Mac keyboards, for example.

    1. Re:Ah, minimialism by npslider · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps Apple has ran out of useful features to add to their new products and have been forced to resort to this.

      Just look at how much more gorgeous the new iPhone 7 looks without that ugly cowardly headphone jack!

    2. Re:Ah, minimialism by Darinbob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Get rid of the "Q" key. No one uses that. We shouldn't let a minority of words dictate the keyboard for everyone. We can do this without affecting kwality.

    3. Re:Ah, minimialism by macs4all · · Score: 2

      The previous X1 Carbons had an LED changeable strip similar to what Apple is doing.

      Oh, please! The Lenovo strip was NOTHING like what Apple is doing.

      Lenovo's non-improvement was just a slight modification of those retarded "status" strips on POS plastic Windows laptops, that simply used a Lexan strip with a Deadfront Grey mask covering screened-on "annunciators" for WiFi, HD access, etc. lit-up by fixed LEDs that would shine through the Deadfront Grey, with some sort of membrane switch layer. There was absolutely NO "Programmability" to it, since IT WASN'T A "real" (graphical, bitmapped) DISPLAY. No WONDER they removed that embarassment pronto!

      Here, we have that "piece of a good idea" Lenovo had, but fully-realized and actually made FUNCTIONAL by Apple.

      Many people have wanted "programmable keytops" for quite some time now (there has even a product or two). Well, this is Apple's "toe in the water" for that concept.

      Next go-around, if the rumors are true, Apple will have E-Ink "keytops" on ALL the keys. THEN what will you bitch about? I'm sure it will be SOMETHING...

      Oh, and anyone who has ANY thought that Apple is Keyboard-Hostile, needs only to look at two things:

      1. The Keyboard Shortcuts list for OS X/macOS. Oh, and don't forget the other two lists linked off of that list!

      2. The fact that OS X/macOS has, since the beginning, had a Keyboard Shortcuts EDITOR, which allows you to trigger ANY Menu-Command with a User-Defined Keybinding. You can define both System-Wide and Application-Specific Keyboard Shortcuts. And in more recent versions of OS X/macOS, the functionality of that Editor has been DRAMATICALLY increased; such that there is fairly-well unprecedented ability to define/redefine keybindings/key layouts.

      Actually pretty damned nice, and something I have heard was just now added to Windows (in one form or another) in the most-recent version or two.

    4. Re:Ah, minimialism by adolf · · Score: 2

      Better to get rid of the W key, since uue can accomplish the same thing by using tuuo single Us.

  8. Re:Well... by npslider · · Score: 2

    All 2 of them?

    *ducks

  9. Oh noes! by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Funny

    Please tell me they atleast still have the PrtScn/SysRq and Pause/Break buttons!

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  10. LOL by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Editor's note: We usually tend to avoid covering leaks and rumors

    ... but we will if we can't get enough wild speculation and laughable hyperbole to fill the front page.

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  11. Re:poor vim users by presidenteloco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No. We just won't be using macbooks for development any more. Shame really. I'm waiting for someone to make the ultimate linux-based software development laptop now. And it would be nice if it had some of the design cohesion and just-works features of apple products.

    Before someone rants, of course developers use many other editor tools, but proper support of the terminal and vi is essential for a serious server-software (back end software, or IT admin) development box.

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  12. In our vision of the "new" connected world: by Hartree · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You never turn off your devices. You will be constantly be consuming monetized content.

    Including the surf noise it plays while you're sleeping.

    Someone who wants to turn it off must, obviously, be deviant and need intervention.

    1. Re:In our vision of the "new" connected world: by npslider · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can always just remove the batter...

      Oh poo.

  13. Ugh by TFlan91 · · Score: 2

    I once had a laptop with a "touchscreen" for volumn, power, etc and within a year that shit the bed. Never went back to anything that remotely looked like a touchscreen keyboard.

  14. As can complexity by H3lldr0p · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not defending Apple. Can't stand to use them myself. Can barely stand Windows most days but that's because I like knowing what's going on under the hood. I understand what those little things mean and how to use them to my advantage to make my work easier. That's not the case for everyone.

    It's well past time for UI to have different modes. Have one that's for ease of use. Have another for power and expert users. It's not a matter of safety. It's a matter of different use cases. I am hobbled with certain files hidden from the UI. I am hobbled when I have to constantly confirm dialogs that shouldn't have needed confirmation. I'm looking at you, Excel. Yes, I wanted that file in a comma delimited format. Yes I want to quit because I already saved and told you I didn't want to change the format last time. Yes I am certain that I want to quit my quitting and not change the format.

    1. Re:As can complexity by Shane_Optima · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's well past time for UI to have different modes. Have one that's for ease of use. Have another for power and expert users.

      "Power users" are the ones that have really got the shaft over the past 10+ years. It's distinct from (but broadly overlaps with) expert: the basic idea of a power user is someone who is fully taking advantage of the functionality that is built-into the app (including options in the config files or "advanced" tabs in a GUI), but doesn't want to built it him/herself (which includes but isn't limited to writing CLI scripts.) Some stuff I am probably an "expert" on, but most of the time I'm just a power user. I don't want to use a CLI to sort my photos. That's horrendous and clearly less functional. I'm sure emacs-dired or some old midnight commander clone would be functional enough, but I've never had the patience to sit down to get over that learning curve and configure it how I need it just to enable a few missing features.

      But WHY THE HELL SHOULD I NEED TO MANUALLY ENABLE THOSE FEATURES TO BEGIN WITH? Linux has had like 20 years to make a good GUI file browser and they've failed utterly. Why the hell are permission issues with removable drives still a thing? Having to open a terminal window to launch "sudo nautilus/thunar/dolphin" in a separate window, without any of my customizations (so everything is invariably some big icon, enabling me to see like 7 files at a time) to fix some ridiculous a permission issue that should've never existed in the first place... are you fucking kidding me?[1] No, I am NOT going to open up a CLI as a workaround for bugs (yes, bugs) in your 15 year old actively-developed file browser, and fuck you very much for suggesting such a thing.

      Why can't I tell at a glance where this folder is being mounted from? Why can't I tell at a glance what the filesystem is? Wait, what? You can't even tell these things even with rightclick-properties?? What is the POINT of having a "properties" or "details" if you're not going to even give me a hint about where the directory is physically located? When this sort of thing comes up I generally just give up and launch gparted, just to figure out what the hell I'm looking at. I'm sure there's an easier way, but the easiest way was obviously for my file browser to actually give me a few scraps of information about the goddamn files .

      Why does this "places" view vs. "tree" view dichotomy still exist? It's senselessly crippled almost every single Linux file browser I've ever seen, to one extent or another. It renders pcmanfm unusable. It used to render thunar unusable, but they've fixed it now. Sort of. Still completely impossible to tell apart a lot of the entries in the left pane: 32GB removable drive, 32GB removable drive, 32GB removable drive, god fucking forbid you show me anything like a vendor name or a graphic representing used space or the file system or something. Dolphin is a bit better at it, as I recall, but I've never gotten around to getting Qt dark theming to work properly.

      Why is there no "undo"?[2] Why the fuck can't I simply control-z to undo a partial file file move after I realize there's not enough space... wait just a goddamned second, WHY DID YOU EVEN BEGIN THE MOVE OPERATION WITHOUT FIRST CHECKING TO SEE IF I HAD ENOUGH SPACE?

      Oh look, now there's a filename collision during my 2 TB copy, which you helpfully paused about 30 seconds into it (and I've been gone for an hour eating lunch, thinking you were busy finishing said goddamn copy operation.) Couldn't you have just keep going and ask me about duplicate filenames after you've copied all the other thousands of files that weren't duplicates?

      Oh look, in addition to the file name being the same, the file size is also the same. Hmm. It says "resume_latest.odt". Well, is it the same file or isn't it? Why the hell aren't you telling me the goddamned modified date on the file? And why didn't you run a hash? Y

  15. There is no escape! by sinij · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apple listened to consumer concerns that complained that escape key had negative connotations and often triggered traumatic memories of entrapment and escape and male dominance. Therefore, to show its progressive stance ESC and Power keys were permanently removed. Instead, they were replaced with a single Sympathy key that does nothing.

  16. Developer machine by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Last year I shopped for a new dev machine (laptop). I decided to be open minded and consider the latest Macbooks as well. There were a few things that completely ruled them out for me, one of the biggest being that the keyboard did not have Home, End, PgUp and PgDn. I realize that there are chording / key combinations to do some of those things, but I already use numerous key combinations with those keys (like navigating to the end of a line vs the end of a document, selecting from the cursor to the end of the document, etc). Any laptop that does not include those 4 keys are totally out of the question for me for development use. Removing the ESC key is obviously, in my mind, yet another step in the wrong direction.

    The ironic thing is Macs are pushed as productivity machines for professionals. That is one of the reasons they are supposed to fetch a premium price is because they aren't just "home" machines for the masses. Which makes the stupidity even worse because professionals use advanced tools that use keyboards for more than just typing words.

    In case anyone wondered, the other primary hardware issue that eliminated the Macbook was the lack of a touchscreen (necessary for web development these days to debug and test touch interfaces to be consumed on mobile devices).

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  17. The end of computing by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

    It seems in the mad rush to monetize everything and everyone developers and designers have been forced to foreswear anything resembling common sense.

    As we have seen over the decades, Microsoft slowly but surely hid basic functionality from the user through every iteration of its operating system. I have a W95 machine where I can get to things faster than I can on my W7 machine, and substantially faster than on my dad's W10 machine.

    For its part Apple has liked to see itself at the vanguard of elegant computing, specifically the design of a computer. As we are all aware, nothing is let out the door of Apple which hasn't been dissected to the nth degree.

    While its operating system works, its flaws and quirks are just as numerous and like Microsoft, with each iteration they further disassociate the person from the OS, thinking they are making things easier. As the decision to remove the headphone jack from the iPhone showed, nothing is simpler when you remove basic functionality.

    Now comes their latest foray into the schizzle: no ESC key or power button. Nothing physical at least. Only some vague, wispy area to touch which one hopes will do what they want but will, as time and experience has shown, fail at every given opportunity.

    As the last two stalwarts slug it out for eyeballs, Linux plods along, years behind in functionality but always with the same mantra, "This year will be the year of Linux on the desktop!", as if saying the same thing over and over will make it true. Sorry, you are not Dorothy and you do not have a pair of red shoes.

    We arrive now at the beginning of the end for computing. Where once people could do what they wanted with what they purchased, where getting something done was held above what shade of font to place against a white background, now we must overcome the need to show how clever we are through our brilliance of design which lacks anything resembling ease of use.

    Within the next decade we will see how our vain attempts to design the most perfect machine will thwart the progress we so ruefully wish for. As is always the case, the more complicated a machine the more easily its performance can be degraded through simple acts. As the most recent attacks on high profile web sites have shown, thanks to the very technologies we claim will make our lives easier, we are now progressing to an age where we have made it much easier for those who wish to subvert or destroy that which is built.

    All because developers and designers are more interested in eye candy than functionality, reliability and simplicity.

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    1. Re:The end of computing by Zak3056 · · Score: 5, Informative

      FYI, Dorothy's slippers were ruby.

      If you're going to be pedantic and point out that the slippers were "ruby" instead of "red" then I'll point out that they were only "ruby" slippers because it looked good in Technicolor. The shoes in the book are silver.

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  18. Re:What could possibly go wrong by klubar · · Score: 2

    Ctrl-alt-del is really there to lock your screen, log in, change password, change user and maybe start the task manager.

    Oh wait, you're not on domain-joined machine?

  19. Re:poor vim users by TWX · · Score: 2

    It feels like Apple just missed being able to be the king of platforms for network admins too.

    Just as they got their OS truly ready for Linux and UNIX users to jump-in, they removed some of the page navigation keys. Many users put up with it anyway. Then they started downsizing on the ports. Many users put up with that too even when they had to now use a dongle to connect to a friggin' Ethernet jack.

    Now they're getting rid of the vast majority of physical ports, so no more console access, and they're now cutting-bone, not merely flesh, by removing the Escape key, a key used all the damn time by a lot of us.

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  20. Re:Coming Soon! by sjames · · Score: 2

    As soon as they make sure it doesn't accidentally emit enough heat to warm your hands and that the Apple logo emits enough light to clearly see it at all times without accidentally providing useful vision in low light situations, it'll be ready for production.

    There is considerable concern in the engineering department that it is still heavy enough to hold paper down.

  21. Re:Escape by yorgasor · · Score: 2

    I've always used the CAPSLOCK as a CONTROL key, just where the good lord always intended it to be. Making this the escape seems a bit blasphemic.

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  22. Re:What could possibly go wrong by Falos · · Score: 2

    Ctrl+Shift+Esc for instant task manager.

    Oh wait esc keys aren't hip anymore. Never mind.

  23. Re:poor vim users by mlts · · Score: 2

    Could be worse. My last job issued me a Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon where the F-keys were on a touch LCD or e-ink bar. Said Lenovo had the tilde key moved under the enter key, and had no capslock key (instead, the page up/down buttons were moved to the capslock key's location.) Reach for the escape key, there go your F-keys until you tap that area again, due to it being the FN toggle.

    I just hope Apple's offering isn't as bad... I really don't want to have to bring along a Bluetooth keyboard just so I can type without fumbling.

  24. Soft keys with changable keycaps? by Theovon · · Score: 2

    I think one of the problems with Apple keyboards has been the ursurping of the function keys. I guess we don’t use function keys, but it took a little getting used to the fact that F3 doesn’t mean F3 unless you hold down the Fn key at the same time. And then every new Mac seems to change what the keys mean. If instead there were a row at the top of the keyboard that’s touch sensitive and which can change labels for all of those keys, that would actually make things a lot easier. Hold down Fn, and then all the labels change to F#. Leave Fn up, and they present whatever set of hotkeys you want to configure them to be! Sounds cool to me. Presumably, the left-most one will be Esc by default. Apple keeps adding features to Terminal.app, which I suspect is because their own developers use the terminal a lot, so that functionality doesn’t suffer bitrot but actually improves a little over time. I’m not sure what they’re going to do about the power button, but I was never bothered by the old style where there was a gray button flush with the chassis maybe they’ll bring that back.

    Now, what I still think is crazy is the removal of the audio jack. That’s GOT to be getting Apple mountains of feedback from people complaining that they can’t listen and charge at the same time. We’ll see what impact that has when iPhone 8 comes out.

  25. Re: What could possibly go wrong by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

    Not exactly. They send a software signal, then after some time, they hard power off the system. Try pressing and holding it for a bit.

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  26. Re:Escape by Darinbob · · Score: 2

    Capslock is control. It was where God put the control key on the first keyboard. The collective of fallen angels known as IBM moved this key in order to confuse mankind.

  27. Use the keyboard Luke by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Ctrl-E goes to the end of the line, Ctrl-A to the beginning. Thank you Emacs.

    Shift-Command-DownArrow Selects from the current cursor position to the end of the document... Shift-DownArrow adds to the selection a line at a time.

    I've never missed any of the keys you mention as a developer, because the Mac has a number of keyboard modifiers (ctrl-option-command-shift) and they almost always do an excellent and intuitive job being stacked. I cannot think of anything the four keys you mentioned do that I cannot do easily with keystroke commands, and on OS X almost any document dealing with text will have those keystrokes work the same way.

    The ironic thing is Macs are pushed as productivity machines for professionals.

    Hey Alanis, thats not ironic - they are far more useful systems for professionals because between hardware and software they are more reliable and consistent.

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  28. Umm, actually Emacs is based around M-x... by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    I know you were joking but in Emacs the magic gateway to commands is M-x - which stands for meta-x. Yes Esc-x works, but you can also use Option-x in Aquamacs...

    Sadly it seems like the terminal version of Emacs does rely only on Esc to get to M-x, Option-x inserts some special character. I hope they fix that default but it can be re-bound as needed.

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  29. Re:poor vim users by linguae · · Score: 2

    I wholeheartedly agree. I've been a Mac user for a decade, and I bought my first Mac (a Core Duo MacBook) because of its well-polished Unix operating system out of the box. I loved my MacBook. Its RAM and hard disk were easily accessible and upgradeable; I originally bought mine with 512 MB RAM and upgraded it to 2GB a few years later. I also upgraded its hard drive twice; once to expand its capacity, and again when that drive failed.

    Unfortunately for me and many other power users, sometime after the iPhone came out and became successful, Apple started changing from a computer company to a consumer electronics company, and with this transition Apple started actively making decisions that have been frustrating to us power users. Upgrade cycles have become very lengthy, and Macs have also increasingly become difficult, if not impossible, to upgrade to the point that even the Mac Mini featured soldered components. I thought about switching back to PCs in 2013 when my MacBook was long in the tooth, but I didn't want to move to Linux or Windows 8, so I held my nose and bought a MacBook Air, making sure to max out on RAM and get more storage than the default.

    Now I'm facing the same decision given that my MacBook Air's AppleCare expired recently and I'm due for another laptop upgrade. On one hand, I still believe OS X is the best desktop operating system out there. Linux, in my opinion, is still rather inconvenient at times, and I find Windows an annoying operating system to use. On the other hand, Apple has shown repeatedly over the past four years or so that it doesn't care about power users and other highly-technical users. Based on what's being leaked, this upcoming keynote appears to be my final straw with Apple. What's the point of having a wonderful desktop OS if the hardware you're forced to use is dumbed-down, compromised, and non-upgradeable?

    It would be nice if either Apple offered licenses to run OS X on non-Mac hardware or if a team would work on a Linux desktop that meets the needs of disaffected Mac power users. But I'm no longer going to wait for Apple to change direction and release my dream product: an updated 2006 MacBook or MacBook Pro.

  30. Re:Caps Lock by flargleblarg · · Score: 2

    I remap mine to Control. As God intended.

  31. Re:poor vim users by DMFNR · · Score: 2

    Is there really a key on that keyboard that says "Rubout"? Does that bind directly to youporn?