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New MacBook Pros Max Out At 16GB RAM Due To Battery Life Concerns (macrumors.com)

The new MacBooks Pros have been improved in nearly every way -- except when it comes to RAM capacity. With faster, more energy efficient Skylake processors, faster SSDs, and better GPUs, one would think the amount of RAM wouldn't be capped off at 16GB. However, that is the case. The reason why the MacBook Pros continue to max out at 16GB RAM is due to battery life concerns, according to marketing chief Phil Schiller. MacRumors reader David emailed Apple to get an explanation: Question from David: "The lack of a 32GB BTO option for the new MBPs raised some eyebrows and caused some concerns (me included). Does ~3GBps bandwidth to the SSD make this a moot issue? I.e. memory paging on a 16GB system is so fast that 32GB is not a significant improvement?" Schiller's answer: "Thank you for the email. It is a good question. To put more than 16GB of fast RAM into a notebook design at this time would require a memory system that consumes much more power and wouldn't be efficient enough for a notebook. I hope you check out this new generation MacBook Pro, it really is an incredible system."

For the 2016 MacBook Pro, Apple was able to reach "all-day battery life," which equates to 10 hours of wireless web use or iTunes movie playback. That's an hour improvement over the previous generation in the 15-inch machine, and a small step back in the 13-inch machine. While none of Apple's portable machines offer more than 16GB RAM, 32GB of RAM is a high-end custom upgrade option in the 27-inch iMac.

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  1. 16GB is pretty good by somenickname · · Score: 1, Informative

    I would think the Dell XPS line is probably the nearest competitor to these laptops and the 13 inch comes with 4GB or 8GB of RAM while the 15 inch comes with 8GB or 16GB. So, in this case, I don't really think that Apple has done anything too boneheaded. Though, having said that, my 12.5" ThinkPad from 2011 has had 16GB of RAM since the day it arrived. So, Apple doesn't really deserve any praise for 16GB either.

    1. Re:16GB is pretty good by cfalcon · · Score: 4, Informative

      > I would think the Dell XPS line is probably the nearest competitor to these laptops

      Ok...

      > while the 15 inch comes with 8GB or 16GB.

      Here's one with 32 gigs of RAM:

      http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop...

  2. Re: Bad Reason by Luthair · · Score: 3, Informative

    Given Intel already has a newer CPU available that supports it, the finger would point squarely back at Apple for using a year old CPU.

  3. Re:apple needs to have real pro hardware and not t by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 4, Informative

    apple needs to have real pro hardware and not this have to make it thinner shit.

    Exactly. At the root, his answer is "To put more than 16GB of fast RAM into a notebook design at this time would require we make it an angstrom thicker and we'd rather chew off our own testicles than do that so fuck you very much and please keep sending us money."

    --
    "Oh no... he found the .sig setting."
  4. Re:Good grief! by cfalcon · · Score: 4, Informative

    > What are people doing that requires so much memory?

    1- Multitasking
    2- Running their own code that requires a lot of memory
    3- VMs
    4- Any or all of the above

    Bonus: Ramdisking!

  5. Re:Why do you need more than 16GB? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Editing very high resolution (RAW) images in photoshop.
    Editing/Rendering 4k video.

    And keep in mind that it is often not just one program consuming it all. There is often a workflow requiring several programs to be open even if they are not running simultaneously all the time.

  6. Re: Bad Reason by NotAPK · · Score: 4, Informative

    Even though **you** don't do anything useful or interesting with your laptop doesn't mean the rest of us don't.

    With a powerful laptop I can go visit a potential customer and show them the product/service without depending on any external factors. Such an advantage is huge.

    With a powerful laptop I can carry around a massive dataset and work on the programming problem while en route to a conference.

    With a powerful laptop I can simply sit at home, at my work area, and not care about the local internet going down or the power going out: I can just focus on my work and get it done.

  7. Re: Bad Reason by NotAPK · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Again, I'm not sure where you live, but I live in a developed country,"

    Global. I travel and work anywhere in the world. Your first-world luxuries are not available everywhere.

  8. Re: Good grief! by NotAPK · · Score: 3, Informative

    For fuck sake. Do NOT tell me what I should or should not be doing with my fucking laptop.