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Apple Says It's Out of the Standalone Display Business (macrumors.com)
The launch and marketing push of the 27-inch 5K UltraFine Display made in partnership with LG all but confirms that Apple is out of the standalone display business. Previously, it was rumored Apple was working on its own branded Thunderbolt Display powered by an integrated GPU, but with the launch of LG's display it appears to indicate Apple gave up those plans. The Verge's Nilay Patel also confirms the news, tweeting: "Good notes by @jsnell. I can add that Apple told me it's out of standalone display biz." 9to5Mac reports: The two new LG displays, which will be available later this year, feature Thunderbolt 3 connectivity for an easy one-cable-solution for new MacBook owners. Apple will sell both displays, a 4K model for $699.95 and a 5K model for $1299.95, on its online store. Back in June, Apple officially discontinued its lone company-branded monitor, the Thunderbolt Display, after it had languished for a period of time without a substantial update. Apple's statement on the discontinuation made it appear as if it may be the last of the Apple-branded display, and this has been seemingly confirmed: "We're discontinuing the Apple Thunderbolt Display. It will be available through Apple.com, Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers while supplies last. There are a number of great third-party options available for Mac users," said an Apple spokesperson.
Can't sell a monitor for $2K these days. Only the most dedicated suckers would buy it.
The old Thunderbolt Display just proved that the product line wasn't worth the trouble..
If it means they can redirect their focus to the rest of their hardware that's great.
... with $25 dongle sales.
"all but confirms"
So in other words, it's not confirmed, it's just speculation and rumor, right?
Apple's monitors (featuring panels obviously not made by them) were nice, but not nice enough to justify their patented Apple-brand pricing. They weren't kept up to date technology-wise either compared to competitors.
The strongest reason to get an Apple display for your Mac was so it wouldn't be connected to a monitor that said "Dell" on it.
Honestly, if anyone thinks Apple will support other industries in less than 5 years they're dreaming. iOS will be the standard across all devices they sell and everything will be a completely walled kingdom. They have no intention on going any further with supporting anything other than fast dollar appstore purchases.
Nevertheless, apple remains a popular fruit among the snakes in the garden.
Defensive much?
Maybe WorldStarHipHop or Twitter would be a more appropriate website for you.
Defensive much?
Not as defensive as you are humorless. C'mon dood - after all of the whining about the missing headphone jack, the macbook connectors and how it must be impossible to get a multi-outlet USB dongle (I have 12 USB outboard ports on my Mac, and a similar number on my Dell, ave 4 extra on my Pi3) y'all deserve a little rbbing.
But thanks for playing - you win a brand new Samsung Galaxy S7, it's the hottest gift this Christmas season.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Maybe WorldStarHipHop or Twitter would be a more appropriate website for you.
Maybe lurking would be a better place for you. Your humor gland is remarkably small - I think it is a result of being too close to alternative energy sources.
I myself have been a victim of the solar panel shits from time to time. Chillax, and I like to make fun of everything.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
How soon before they announce they will no longer make Desktop or Desksite workstation boxes?
They nearly already have. The Mac Pro is a boutique computer in a novelty case.
They're making fewer MacBooks lately, too. Mobile Gadgets are where the money is, it seems.
That's what Wall Street often refers to Apple as these days. "Apple, the gadget maker..." Check it out, you see stock-market oriented journalists referring to Apple as a gadget maker all the time.
I suppose if they didn't sell well enough, then I guess it doesn't make sense to sell them at all, but while expensive they were nice devices. I
am still hoping that SOMEONE will start producing an attractive, high quality display with the docking features that would work well with a laptop or MacMini (power, Gig ethernet, USB ports). The LG models do not have ethernet ports or cameras, and while the 5k model does have USB 3.1 ports, the 4k model's downstream ports seem to be limited to USB 2.0. While I understand that people have a variety of style preferences, the black plastic LG models will not match some people's tastes.
Call them shallow, fashion idiots, or just people with more money than sense - I know a number of people who will not be upgrading their current Apple displays with LG models. I've had calls from clients looking into using some slighly older iMacs in "Target Display Mode" to work with new laptops who would prefer to spend the money to purchase new Apple displays.
2019: laptops, 2020: phones
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
Are they also out of the standalone computer business? The Mac Pro is a dinosaur, the iMacs are still OK but looking terribly underpowered right now. Even if the computer essentially 'comes for free' with the 5k monitor.
j'ai découvert une démonstration vraiment admirable (de ce théorème général) que cette si
These are P3 gamut monitors, about halfway between sRGB and Adobe 1998. This helps justify the higher price, although it really should be Adobe 1998 to justify the premium.
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The apple website notes these LG panels are P3 color gamut compliant. Which is a smaller color space than Adobe RGB, but probably sufficient for 10bit per channel. While the OS has supported 10 bit since a recent update to El Capitan, there are almost no Mac applications that make use of this. Unlike on Windows, where 10 bit color support and display panels have been available for several years. And note, the latest MacBook Pro panel still doesn't support real 10 bit. And if you want to use wide color with a secondary panel, you'll need to buy a laptop with a secondary GPU.
On the PC side, it's much easier to get the right hardware and get Adobe tools to display a wide color space. Apple is still far behind on what has become absolutely necessary for photographers and filmmakers.
>trying this hard
Well there you go...!
Apple's done this many times before. The introduce Apple-branded products (printers, monitors, digital camera, networking, etc.) where they do so to make a dramatic improvement over the state of the art, then they're willing to kill off their Apple-branded products in order to get third parties to support Apple.
For example, Apple's LaserWriter was the first consumer networked printer, with Postscript, and they also had a highly profitable line of lower-end printers. Apple killed off their entire line of printers because they got all the major printer manufacturers to support the Mac, so even though it cost Apple $1B/year in printer sales revenue, broader industry support ultimately benefitted the Mac platform's growth.
Apple introduced the first easy to use consumer digital camera, which triggered competitive innovation in the industry, which was Apple's goal, after which they killed their camera product and sold partner cameras.
Heck, they had the first cheaply and easily networked computer, and they killed off their proprietary technology in favor of Ethernet as soon as it was possible. Same with USB replacing their proprietary keyboard and mouse connectors.
They just replaced their Thunderbolt with USB (specifically, USB-C with the latest USB bandwidth), now that it's finally fast enough to drive monitors well.
I'm impressed that Apple is willing to innovate ahead of the marketplace, and then to kill off their innovations when, years later, the marketplace catches up. Even more, Apple usually actively works to advance the state of the art in order to be able to kill off their proprietary innovations, because it's ultimately best for customers.
Enable 3D printed prosthetics!
>trying this hard
Well, you did the best you could. Here's your trophy.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Whenever I was browsing through Apple's online store I always saw a monitor in the refurbished or clearance. For most users they don't need a expensive monitor to do what they do. I know myself a rather particular person when it comes to quality. Have been just fine with a ChromeBox attached to a Dell 23" monitor. Let's also face the fact that unless your buying a Mac Mini or a MacPro your not even shopping for a separate monitor and I doubt a Mac Mini buyer would buy a monitor that costs as much or more then the Mini itself.
Not at all, the new MacBook Pros come with a 2nd 2170x60 monitor built right it! :-P
For the haters to chime in....
WHAT? you have to buy a display if you want a second monitor on your MacBook? Goddammit! is there no end to Apple's bullshit?
Troll eh? We's had shittin hemmorages because you have to plug in a headphone to a plug in device, that Apple gives you for free.
We've had wails of righteous indignation that you would have to buy an adapter for multiple USB ports - I have a 7 outlet USB adapter on My Mac, and a 7 Outlet on my Dell, the Mac i unforgivable, th e Dell - hey it's Windows so O-Tay! Windows users have had that attitude ever since Amiga days when they gloat about a 16 bit soundcard they could buy for their machine, but if I bough one for my Amiga, that was unacceptable. If there is one thing about Windows Troolarenas, they have no sense of humor. Now quickly, show your dimwittedness, and troll me down. Merely a mark that you cannot handle the truth.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.