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Mobile Browsing Just Overtook the Desktop For the First Time (alphr.com)

More users around the world are accessing the internet from mobile devices than from desktop computers for the first time, according to internet monitoring firm StatCounter. The combined traffic from mobile and tablets devices amounted to 51.3 percent, compared to desktop computers that contributed to 48.7 percent of the traffic. From a report on Alphr: StatCounter's CEO, Aodhan Cullen, believes this should be a wake-up call to professionals who still view mobile optimisation as an afterthought. "Mobile compatibility is increasingly important not just because of growing traffic but because Google favors mobile friendly websites for its mobile search results," he said. While the trend is pretty obvious worldwide, interestingly the graph is skewed by mobile adoption outside of the west. While the UK and USA still have the desktop on top (55.6% to 44.4% and 58% to 42% respectively), 78% of India's internet access is via mobile. Cullen believes that post-Brexit with a need to trade beyond the EU, these kind of concerns should be on every site owner's mind.

80 comments

  1. Re: Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Joke of the year right here

  2. Screw that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm not going to waste my time "optimizing" a goddamn web page intended for a real computer just because some crappy little spyware device has a crappy, underpowered browser with a vastly inferior input method. If you can't properly navigate my site on your little pile of crap device, maybe you should grow up and use a real computer rather than your little government-tracks-you toy.

    The world is going to see its error in going with these little botnet, spying, tracking devices soon enough, anyway when the world finally wakes up and understands how vital privacy and common sense is.

    1. Re:Screw that. by Falos · · Score: 1

      No they won't. They'll keep drinking. They'll complain, but so long as it (eventually) pulls up whatever social site or curated headlines they want they'll keep drinking. And blaming autocorrect.

      Teenage Me made a few bucks off these people. They always called sooner or later - later being when their browser won't even launch. Next Gen Me will do what he can, but it's not as easy to get under the hood when your OS is a decorative garden. I'll probably suggest he learn to replace dropped screens.

      "It must be slow because the phone's a year old. Better buy a new one."

    2. Re:Screw that. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not going to waste my time "optimizing" a goddamn web page intended for a real computer just because some crappy little spyware device has a crappy, underpowered browser with a vastly inferior input method.

      As a user of a "real computer", I have no problems with this. However, stop using my "real computer" as an excuse to require my browser run your needless javascript.

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    3. Re:Screw that. by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

      I'm not going to waste my time "optimizing" a goddamn web page intended for a real computer just because.

      If it's like most web pages I've seen, you don't "optimize" nothin', for anything.

    4. Re:Screw that. by ninthbit · · Score: 1

      As if a desktop or laptop is any less trackable/spyable.

    5. Re:Screw that. by tepples · · Score: 1

      stop using my "real computer" as an excuse to require my browser run your needless javascript.

      Please clarify your comment. In your opinion, is there necessary JavaScript, or is all JavaScript "needless" to you?

      There are plenty of web applications that could not be created without script, and plenty more that would be horribly inefficient (full page reload per click and/or hundreds of iframes on one screen) without script. Good luck making a web-based paint program or spreadsheet without script. And if you say those apps should be native instead of using the web platform, good luck running a Mac-only app on your Windows PC or a Windows-only app on your Mac.

    6. Re:Screw that. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of web applications that could not be created without script

      Absolutely, those are applications. I'm talking about web pages, the things that display information and you can navigate around.

      And if you say those apps should be native instead of using the web platform, good luck running a Mac-only app on your Windows PC or a Windows-only app on your Mac.

      Javascript programs are implicitly open source, so just use open source programs that use a multiplatform framework like Qt. Problem solved.

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    7. Re:Screw that. by tepples · · Score: 1

      Absolutely, those are applications. I'm talking about web pages, the things that display information and you can navigate around.

      The line between the two is by no means bright. For example, is a discussion forum such as Slashdot a "page" or an "application"?

      Javascript programs are implicitly open source

      A minified program in JavaScript is not "the preferred form of a work for making modifications to it".

      so just use open source programs that use a multiplatform framework like Qt. Problem solved.

      If you make a web application, you have to test it on each major browser engine. In practice, this means Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and initially using Chrome as a proxy for Safari. But if you change from offering one web application to offering five native applications, you end up having to compile, test, and deploy on all five platforms' stores. Several of those (Windows UWP, Mac App Store, iOS) have annual fees, and several require purchase of a particular brand of premium-priced computer on which to develop and test the application (in particular iOS, development for which requires a sufficiently recent Mac). So would it be reasonable for an application developer to offer its web application for use without charge but charge a fee for the native applications in order to recoup the cost of their development?

    8. Re:Screw that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a desktop/laptop doesn't ping a nearby celltowers several times a second
      they also generally don't have a gps chip allowing exact location to be determined remotely
      so yes they are significantly less trackable

    9. Re:Screw that. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      The line between the two is by no means bright. For example, is a discussion forum such as Slashdot a "page" or an "application"?

      I disagree, it's quite clear. Slashdot's forums are clearly a page. That said, there should be tag that is a placeholder for content to retrieve until it's exposed. expand/collapse stuff can already be done using CSS.

      if you change from offering one web application to offering five native applications, you end up having to compile, test, and deploy on all five platforms' stores

      You don't need to use "stores" and with Qt you don't have to do anything but recompile. You don't even have to test for compatibility bullshit like webdev, so it's even easier. See, problem solved.

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    10. Re:Screw that. by ninthbit · · Score: 1

      a desktop/laptop doesn't ping a nearby celltowers several times a second

      But they still have a WiFi card that's blasting it's MAC address to a pretty large radius

      they also generally don't have a gps chip allowing exact location to be determined remotely

      No, but they require fixed internet connection that puts you in pretty much the same visible radius

      If you're then going to go off on TOR, VPNs, MAC spoofing and other paranoid measures to hide.... well you can do all that on a phone too. Disable the cell radio, and use the same TOR and VPN tricks to hide. Of course, then they'll track you by browser fingerprinting and other super cookie methods, so good luck. Short of setting up the box to have a secure host OS that boots an encrypted mildly randomized guest OS, you'll always have tracking/spying issues. It doesn't matter what type of device you use.

    11. Re:Screw that. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Good luck making a web-based paint program or spreadsheet without script.

      You are assuming that a web-based spreadsheet is a sane idea.

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    12. Re:Screw that. by tepples · · Score: 1

      You don't need to use "stores"

      The only ways to go around the store are even more expensive: A. buy a Mac for each of your iOS users so that they can install the application from source code using Xcode, or B. the iOS Developer Enterprise Program, which requires employing all your users.

      and with Qt you don't have to do anything but recompile.

      Is there a guide to using a Linux PC to cross-compile a Qt application for Windows, macOS, Android, and iOS? And how can one be sure that it will work across all platforms without testing, as opposed to inadvertently relying on implementation-defined, unspecified, or undefined behaviors that differ between the various platforms' Qt backends?

    13. Re:Screw that. by tepples · · Score: 1

      You are assuming that a web-based spreadsheet is a sane idea.

      It's a less insane idea than a Mac-based spreadsheet that you can't run because your computer happens not to be a Mac, or a Windows-based spreadsheet that you can't run because your computer happens not to have a Windows license or to even have an x86-64 CPU in the first place, such as "mobile" (here meaning an ARM-powered device running a smartphone-derived operating system).

    14. Re:Screw that. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      The only ways to go around the store are even more expensive: A. buy a Mac for each of your iOS users so that they can install the application from source code using Xcode, or B. the iOS Developer Enterprise Program, which requires employing all your users.

      LOL! oh man, you're helpless.

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    15. Re:Screw that. by tepples · · Score: 1

      Are you recommending that a business distribute an application that relies on jailbreaking, which in turn relies on a security defect that Apple can close at any time?

    16. Re:Screw that. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      so which is it, free application that brings in no money or business a application that somehow can't afford testing on multiple platforms?

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    17. Re:Screw that. by tepples · · Score: 1

      It's both, or more precisely the transition from one to the other: someone developing a free application to see whether he can use it as the minimum viable product for a new company.

    18. Re:Screw that. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      The market is saturated. Do or do not, there is no try.

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  3. Browsing or accessing by DidgetMaster · · Score: 1

    There is a big difference between opening up a browser and jumping from page to page as you follow the links; and having a mobile application ping some server for the latest NFL score so that it can update its status bar. I have tried to 'browse' the web using my phone and it is a completely different experience than doing the same thing on my desktop. What is really being measured here?

    1. Re:Browsing or accessing by peragrin · · Score: 1

      I browse all the time on my phone and tablet. It is simple and fast and I am seldom typing so they work great. In the morning when I need a quick catch up I load something like 30 tabs at once on my laptop, but during the day a touch screen covers most of my needs

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    2. Re:Browsing or accessing by ninthbit · · Score: 1

      I'm to the point now with my Nexus 6 that I prefer my phone to the desktop. That mouse is slower than my touch screen, and I can't easily zoom.

    3. Re:Browsing or accessing by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      " and I can't easily zoom"

      ctrl+scroll wheel is too challenging?

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    4. Re: Browsing or accessing by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      Obviously the moron is strong with this one, just nod and move along as this twit is probably the it manager at your company

    5. Re:Browsing or accessing by Falconhell · · Score: 1

      Sigh, yeh, I have got to the point of trying to pinch zoom pictures in real books occasionally damnit.

    6. Re:Browsing or accessing by ninthbit · · Score: 1

      Again... the mouse is slower. So saying use the mouse doesn't really invalidate my point. Not to mention that while the browser may "zoom", its still very clunky and many pages change up their rendering because the window stays the same size and everything is just enlarged. It's not a REAL zoom if the page changes now is it?

    7. Re:Browsing or accessing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fixing what a tiny screen causes in the first place.

      I bet you think Excel is slow to use too.

  4. Going too far by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

    A trend I've spotted: The desktop version of some websites are now also optimized for mobile.

    There's a little three-stripe menu in the corner, a bunch of icons with no hint about what they might represent, and a list of about 30 words in a huge font. The rest of my 24-inch monitor is filled with white space.

    To get any further information, I need to click icons to dig down and get fed little batches of a few more words or pictures.

    1. Re:Going too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no no thats optimization for win10/touch interface.
      enjoy

    2. Re:Going too far by mlts · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the "top 10 list", each item being on a separate page, and being about a postage stamp in size, surrounded by ads. Thankfully said sites now give a middle finger to people using ad-blockers, so one knows the site is a waste of time and can move onto other things.

    3. Re:Going too far by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      so one knows the site is a waste of time/quote? This exactly. And maybe because I'm older and know more things now, but there seems to be a declining amount of content on the web.

    4. Re:Going too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems like you didn't get the memo, most top X lists are now clickbait crap.

    5. Re:Going too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you old people know its "new content" if I put it on MY trendy website in a slightly different order and with all new ads!

  5. Laptops? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, did they count laptops as desktops or as mobile devices?

    1. Re:Laptops? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      So, did they count laptops as desktops or as mobile devices?

      For the purposes of TFA, laptops are desktops. "Mobile" only includes smartphones and tablets.

  6. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as desktop numbers aren't decreasing (which they are not) then they aren't even slightly sickly let alone dead and rotting. With a 90% share of desktop, rapidly growing share of cloud and large enterprise server presence they will continue to grow for the foreseeable future at least (5-10 years). A new market they don't happen to do well in doesn't suddenly make all the markets they dominate irrelevant sadly.

  7. Re:Linux by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    "Desktop" is no longer on the "desktop", and hasn't been for a while. And by desktop, you also mean "Laptop". But our "desktop" isn't on our desk, It is in the palm of our hand. It is running Android or iOS, and it isn't running Windows.

    Just wait till ChromeOS and Android are merged, and all your android apps run natively on your ChromeOS "desktop" (or laptop).

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  8. How much is real? by kuzb · · Score: 2

    We need to keep in mind here that a sizable amount of HTTP traffic is just fetching ads for freemeium software.

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    1. Re:How much is real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, what we need to keep in mind here is that "web traffic" is not defined, their method of capture is not defined, and just like Alexa... they're full of shit.

      Even if the statistic is real, and lets be honest that mobile use probably does outstrip desktop use since its often available in countries where computers themselves are not ubiquitous in homes, its meaningless. Optimizing for a 4",5",7",8" and 10"+ screen are all different things, yet most sites optimize for only one. And they suck at doing just that one as well.

      The story here is actually: mobile web doing quite well, literally in spite of itself. Or maybe its that people still use mobile web because they simply have no other choice. The first person to make a browser for mobile that can re-arrange websites on the fly is gonna be a billionaire overnight.

  9. Post-Brexit? by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    What does Brexit have to do with trading beyond the EU? The UKs biggest trading parter is the US. Is the UK planning stopping trading with the EU? What a bizarre comment.

    1. Re:Post-Brexit? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Brexit is about fear. The Anti Brexit people fear that everything will go on the same, or better. The ProBrexit people were fearing whatever it was they fear.

      The reality is, neither side is going to be fully happy, as the doomsday won't occur and but neither will the benefits. It is just a different set of cronies will get rich.

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    2. Re:Post-Brexit? by afgam28 · · Score: 2

      It depends how you measure it. The US is the biggest export destination of UK goods, but by far more stuff gets imported from Germany than the US:

      The UK exports $51 billion to, and imports $44.4 billion from, the US.
      The UK exports $46.5 billion to, and imports $100 billion from, Germany.
      http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/...

      And if you combine the rest of the EU, it is far bigger than the US, in terms of trade with the UK.

      But anyway, that's missing the point. His point of his comment was that the UK should expand trade to countries which aren't similar to the UK in terms of desktop-vs-mobile usage, which are places beyond both the EU and the US, like India.

    3. Re:Post-Brexit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does Brexit have to do with trading beyond the EU? [...] Is the UK planning stopping trading with the EU? What a bizarre comment.

      Did you notice what happened before CETA could be signed?

      Any trade deal between the UK and the EU after brexit can be vetoed by any of 27 countries and 10 regions (EU member states cannot negotiate trade agreements independent from the EU).

    4. Re:Post-Brexit? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      They could, but they'd have the French & Germans landing on them like a ton of bricks. They don't want to lose jobs in engineering & cheese-making.

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  10. Not concerned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mobile is a fad.

    Full disclosure: I get pinged by Russian servers, so I'm a commie.

    1. Re:Not concerned by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Mobile is a fad.

      It might be. I predict the future will be something like Google Glass that projects a bigger screen (or equiv), and we'll use hand gestures to manipulate them. The objects may even be (virtual) 3D. To bystanders, people will look like they are conducting an invisible orchestra.

      Or it may be an implant that stimulates the optical nerves, and similar for input instead of fingers. There's promising research that reduces or eliminates surgery of brain "connectors".

      Or maybe fold-out phones, sort of wallet-esque will give people bigger screens such that they will be more desktop-like, or at least tablet-like.

  11. UI variation madness [Re:Screw that.] by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I feel your pain. UI development is growing ever more complex and messy.

    In the pre-web days you had pretty much one target UI platform and it all worked the same on all desktops. Life was smooth*.

    Then the web came along with different browser brands and versions. You had to test the UI on multiple browser brands and combo's. One org I worked for had a testing room with about 10 variations of browsers and OS's. When the testers were not available, I had to visit all 10 for every release. I considered gluing a spring to my arse.

    Now we have that AND mobile devices with a wide variety of screen sizes.

    A sufficient testing room would probably need at least 50 test stations. We also have to design apps for different screen-sizes. ("Smart" frameworks that do all it automatically is a pipe-dream. It takes human judgement to adjust, machines are too stupid still, unless you live with half-ass junk, which is common.)

    This is crazy, something has to give.

    I've kicking around going back to WYSIWYG and/or client-side vector rendering instead of auto-flow (at least client-side auto-flow.) It would simplify the client by moving most rendering logic and flow to the server, of which there is only one version of instead of 50, like the %@$# client side has.

    I'm 99.99999361% sure Vulcans would NOT do it the way we've had been. We humans F'd UI (non) standards.

    The only upside is job security for trying to tame the giant steaming piles with their 7-foot teeth. If a logical standard came along, I bet 2/3 of devs would be fired.

    * You had "DLL hell" back then, but what was mostly the installers' problem, not the developers'. Now we have the equivalent in client-variation-hell which screws mostly the developer, or requires more testers.

  12. SInce iphone/android phones by future+assassin · · Score: 2

    came out I rarely visit a lot of sites I use to as they all changed their lay out to some POS where the hell is the navigation even for desktop users. Add in the bizare layout for news sites where you have no idea what is what and mobile has ruined the internet desktop experience.

    I blame it on web designers crying the sky is falling if you don't use responsive design and you'll loose all your customers just so they can scare their customers to have their sites redesigned once more.

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  13. The year of Linux on mobile is at hand! by Black.Shuck · · Score: 1

    Next year, the desktop!

  14. What are people thinking? by AndyKron · · Score: 2

    I'd rather surf the 'net with my desktop than my little phone display no matter how crispy it is. What are people thinking?

    1. Re:What are people thinking? by coastwalker · · Score: 1

      There is a case to be made that mobile users are a different segment of the market to desktop users. It is no longer true that the mobile users are all teenagers with low IQ and no money, but it may still be the case that the desktop users are more likely to have money.

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    2. Re:What are people thinking? by geek · · Score: 1

      I'd rather surf the 'net with my desktop than my little phone display no matter how crispy it is. What are people thinking?

      Can you bring your desktop into the bathroom with you at work? That appears to be where half my coworkers spend 90% of their time.

    3. Re:What are people thinking? by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Maybe they spend that long in the bathroom BECAUSE they bring their phone or tablet, instead of having Facebook calling them back to the office and the computer?

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    4. Re:What are people thinking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd take the desktop over mobile everyday to have a better experience of the site. This is because I hate ads and use adblocking along with script blocking on the desktop which prevents malware and ads (not necessarily in that order). However, my SO prefers the mobile and she likes to see the ads.

    5. Re: What are people thinking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MD and computer engineer here. 80% of my web surfing is on iPad or iPhone because of its convenient.

    6. Re:What are people thinking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... BECAUSE some moronic PHB decided to block Facebook, or clock the time people spend on it, on their desktop PC.

      Result: people spend less time at their desks.

      You get what you incentivise.

    7. Re:What are people thinking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's hard surfing the net with your desktop when sitting on the crapper.

      Unless you're this guy...

    8. Re:What are people thinking? by tepples · · Score: 1

      I've used a laptop on the loo plenty often. Laptops appear to count as desktops for purposes of this survey.

    9. Re:What are people thinking? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      I'd rather surf the 'net with my desktop than my little phone display no matter how crispy it is. What are people thinking?

      They may be thinking that an always-on device they have in their pocket that uses 1/100th as much power as running their desktop computer, is much more convenient for quickly looking-up information.

      HTML is a markup language. It can be wrapped to any size viewport you wish, or at least it could if web "designers" didn't abuse it quite so badly. So a phone isn't necessarily inferior. In some ways its superior, as lower bandwidth pages without all the wasted bandwidth of ads, "You might also like", navbars, etc.

      But personally, I greatly prefer RSS. I can plough through many times more information, in far less time on my phone with a flick of my thumb, than you can on the biggest multi-monitor desktop setup around.

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  15. Re:Linux by lgw · · Score: 1

    You've moved the goalpost so far you're in a different game.

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  16. Re:Linux by Calydor · · Score: 1

    And it's not like those mobile games are all that much fun.

    I'd like to see him write a twenty page report on his phone, though. Poor thumbs.

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  17. First time? You'd never know it. by PJ6 · · Score: 2

    I watched lots of perfectly good websites get utterly trashed *years* ago to make them more "mobile friendly".

    Now that tablet sales are stagnant, I can't wait for them to find some new destructive trend to chase.

    Like, someone invents an ass-browser, so all those websites will be redone again, with a brown palette, and turd-shaped buttons to make them "ass-friendly".

    1. Re:First time? You'd never know it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Open browser
      Go two slash dot period exit
      Open browser
      Go to s l a s h d o tea dot exit
      Open browser
      Search / search s exit
      Open browser
      Search s l a s h tech news Go
      Cycle next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, Trigger
      Cycle next, next, next, next, next, next, next, Follow link

      Looking forward to browsers with built-in voice UIs because using the keyboard and mouse are too unhealthy for your wrists.

  18. What does your bot identify as? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much of that traffic is bots? How much is DDOS attacks?

  19. Sorry about that by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    The power went out so I had to use my phone until I could get the generator connected, which took all morning as I've been putting off adding the inlet and junction box. The UPS kept my internet connection up for some hours, though. Sadly, I loaded G+ and that accounts for the traffic difference

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  20. Landscape Luddites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean that the anachronistic portrait-video histrionics will finally shut the fuck up?

    1. Re:Landscape Luddites by tepples · · Score: 1

      If you're trying to keep both the head and legs in frame, and you're already zoomed out as far as your device's lens goes, what is the alternative to vertical video?

  21. Re:Linux by tepples · · Score: 1

    Pair a Bluetooth keyboard, pair a Bluetooth mouse, and connect an HDTV through HDMI, Miracast, or Chromecast. At that point, the most apparent problem is the inability of Android prior to 7.0 "Nougat" to display two windows side by side, so you can't see both the document you're reading and the notes you're taking.

  22. Gorilla arm by tepples · · Score: 1

    To bystanders, people will look like they are conducting an invisible orchestra.

    And ending up with sore arms. Certain input methods depicted in the film Minority Report are a recipe for gorilla arm.

    1. Re:Gorilla arm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To bystanders, people will look like they are conducting an invisible orchestra.

      And ending up with sore arms. Certain input methods depicted in the film Minority Report are a recipe for gorilla arm.

      Well as long as it's BOTH arms it's OK. :)

    2. Re:Gorilla arm by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Current mouses and keyboards are subject to RSI (inflamed joints), so it's hard to do worse. Maybe air-mousing has enough variety of movements to reduce RSI.

  23. Frequency != Time Spent by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    I check sites several times a day with my phone, but when I want to read, I use my computer.

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  24. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, niggling little problems like a completely unsuitable UI for real work.

    That and mobile apps are crippled and tend to require a decent Internet connection while in use, and have no real concept of data privacy.

    Plus the fact that I'm using a slow mobile chipset, which means what I'm doing takes longer, which means I'm wasting money.

    And I can't plug in other peripherals I use (though I accept that some people only need screen, mouse, keyboard).

    It's taken Microsoft a decade of neglecting its desktop environment for usage to finally fall below 50%. But it's also that people everywhere dick around on their phone. This doesn't mean that useful work is being done.

  25. Depends on the site by Merk42 · · Score: 1

    Anyone building a site really only cares about their own metrics. The site I work on had mobile surpass desktop back in January.

    Though, given the comments, I wonder if anyone here even builds a site of their own, outside of a personal project.

  26. Re:Linux by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    I write extensively on my Android Smartphone. I can type as fast (or faster) using SWYPE keyboard as on a regular keyboard. I don't need a mouse. And I am not tethered to a desk, power, network cable. Writing 20 pages takes discipline, but that is the same regardless of the method of writing.

    As a plus, I often use my voice to dictate large chunks of what I am writing, when I have a lot to say. It was very awkward at first, but it just flows now. And I can do that while driving, something I cannot do while typing on a keyboard or grabbing a mouse.

    So, you're projecting your own weaknesses onto me. I have my own weaknesses, but yours aren't mine. ;)

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  27. Re:Linux by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    I haven't moved the goalpost. I'm suggesting that the goal posts aren't where you thought they were. There is a difference.

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