White House, 35 States To Boost Electric Vehicle Charging Stations (cnbc.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNBC: The White House said on Thursday it will establish 48 national electric-vehicle (EV) charging networks on nearly 25,000 miles of highways in 35 U.S. states. The Obama administration said 28 states, utilities and vehicle manufactures, including General Motors, BMW and Nissan Motor, and EV charging firms have agreed to work together to jump-start the additional charging stations. The corridors were required to be established by December under a 2015 highway law. The White House said 24 state and local governments have agreed to buy hundreds of additional electric vehicles for government fleets and add new EV charging stations. California will buy at least 150 zero-emission vehicles and provide EV charging at a minimum of 5 percent of state-owned parking spaces by 2020. The city of Atlanta will add 300 charging stations at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport by the end of 2017. Los Angeles agreed to nearly triple the city's current plug-in electric fleet to 555 vehicles from about 200 by the end of 2017. Of those, 200 will be for the police department. The city is also adding another 500 stations by 2017. One hurdle to the mass adoption of EVs has been the difficulty in finding places to recharge vehicles. In July, the White House said it was expanding a federal loan guarantee program to include companies building EV charging stations. The U.S. Energy Department said in July that charging facilities are now an eligible technology for the program that can provide up to $4.5 billion in loan guarantees.
Were they made in China or the USA? I hope they are made in the USA, Make America Great Again.
How about putting more of that money into those 'shovel-ready' infrastructure projects you were talking about all those years ago.
Nice to know we will have EV charging stations so that we can drive off the edge of a bridge that collapsed for lack of infrastructure funding.
We are now seeing affordable >200 mile range cars entering the market, like the Zoe and Bolt. As long as charger installs keep up a lot more people should be able to go 100% electric.
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People following the spoon fed delusion that this is "Green" need to investigate how electricity is produced and how bad for the environment EV car batteries are. HINT: Not recyclable, extremely toxic materials. Consider also what happens if a certain candidate is elected and makes energy exponentially more expensive. No worries though, it's all just conspiracy theory right? We will have open borders and Mexico will become the US electricity producer.
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Another key piece to this will be ensuring the charging is low-cost no cost.
Every week I drive by multiple EV charging stations and each time I see at least one EV vehicle parked there without the cable to the charger connected to the vehicle. I've even seen EV vehicles parallel parked in non-parallel parking EV stations, thus occupying 3 parking spots without even charging the vehicle.
If the vehicle is NOT charging, why do they get special privilages to park in reserved parking spaces without complying with requirments of reserved parking spaces? It would be no different than if gas powered vehicles parked in EV charging spots and were not charging. Same as it would be no different if non-handicapped people parked in a handicapped spot.
The reserved EV spots should be in the WORST places in a parking lot instead of in the best, front, nearest locations where the handicapped spots are.
The police have been unwilling to cite these vehicles even though the spaces are in public property parking lots.
>> White House said on Thursday it will establish 48 national electric-vehicle (EV) charging networks on nearly 25,000 miles of highways in 35 U.S. states
Better hurry up. It's a good bet that whatever crawls into the White House next will spend his or her time dodging civil and criminal lawsuits. "Ain't nobody gonna have time for your hipster charging stations!"
ev downsides: they are not particularly cheap, short range
upsides: good parking
i don't really care if someone is doing this as long as there's room if i DO want to charge, and i've never really seen people hog spaces when there's high demand for charging, only when there's more chargers than demand at that location/time. maybe this will be more of a problem in the future but really, it's handwringing over trifles. 200+ mile range and widely available/standard fast charging, as well as an increase in charging station ubiquity in the first place, will make this not a big deal.
source: am an EV-haver
... It will be $50 for a charge,, and you'll still pay the gas tax..
Not just the initial build-out of charging stations (BTW, which charging standard is being used?), but the ongoing cost of maintenance and the actual electricity? TFA is remarkably silent on this, which means I'm paying for it. I don't have an electric car, I don't want to pay for yours.
These plugs by committee are horrible. I'm serious.
How can Tesla fast charge at 120kw on a basic simple looking plug, and these other groups come up with stuff like this
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Is Tesla's plug approach not OK to use (patents etc? ). I've actually driven and used the J1772 plugs - they are freaking SLOW compared to supercharging even though the supercharger plug is simpler. Can someone explain this?
I'll do your homework for you when you start to pay me. I gave the argument and someone else easily gave the same exact point. How about YOU do YOUR OWN work and tell us what the benefit is. Dipshits like you are the ones running around demanding everyone do what you say, without facts to back your bullshit claims. GIVE US THE FACTS, or STFU and go sit back in your playpen.
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If the vehicle is NOT charging, why do they get special privilages to park in reserved parking spaces without complying with requirments of reserved parking spaces?
Pour encourager les autres.
Why add lots of charging stations at airports? When people are leaving their cars for multiple days, they don't need a 240v charger or anything fancy. All that's needed is a simple electrical outlet. Even a Tesla could recharge fully in four days from a standard wall outlet. Put your level-2 charging stations in places where people shop or work and will only be parked for a few hours. Put the level-3 charging stations along highways where people need to charge quickly.
Of course, the need for public charging stations decreases as the range of the cars increases. When the standard range is over 200 miles, most people can do all their non-travel charging at home. You don't need chargers at shopping centers and offices (though I still hear about people with crazy 100+ mile commutes). The real challenge is charging for people who don't have a garage. Focus on putting chargers at apartment complexes and on city streets where residents without garages park. Require charging as part of the permitting process for new apartments (we just did that in my town).
So the only company with a charger with a high enough charge rate that its actually usable for highway travel, the only company with an existing charger infrastructure covering almost all highway routes across the nation, the only company that offers to license all of its patents on this technology to any and all manufacturers who would wish to use it as long as they share in the costs and the ethos of open access, isn't involved in this project?
sigh.
And the worms ate into his brain.
Charging you account while charging your battery.
...the only practical ev worth owning is a luxury car so who gives a shit.
Federal and state support should be SAE J1772 with DC fast charge and force car makers into line. No CHAdeMO, no Tesla proprietary charge, no Mennekes. A single standard. It would also help if all charge points were required by law to accept common forms of payment and not be exclusive to one make or model of vehicle. i.e. charging should be like filling up a gasoline vehicle, not some vertical thing where charge stations only support certain brands of vehicles or discriminate against competitors.
That might inconvenience people with existing vehicles (they'll have to use cables) but the long term benefit is obvious. It removes a format war, risk of verticality / monopolies and increases consumer confidence in electric vehicles.
Other regions in the world like Europe might choose Mennekes with DC fast charge as their single format but the same point applies.
enough said.
You electric car people live in la la land. Nobody is buying them. Trucks and SUV's are what people want. The goobermint has to step in and offer incentives. Why? Because nobody wants them.
Are we talking these shitty-assed commercial charging stations that charge you 50 times the price of the electricity you're using, or will it be something that actually charges based on reality? To get an idea of how bad it is, charging a completely dead Tesla Model S in the Los Angeles area would actually cost a government agency like CalTrans about $6, but if charged at a commercial station like Blink would charge $51.75. Inserting a profiteering middle man into the process is not a good way to encourage adoption of electric vehicles.
....It's called TESLA superchargers, and they already exist along all these corridors.