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Secret Service, DHS Scramble To Secure America's Election (yahoo.com)

Secret service agents rushed Donald Trump off a stage in Nevada Saturday night, CNN reports. "A scuffle could be seen breaking out in the audience, but it was not immediately clear what happened... Secret Service and police tactical units rushed in to detain a man [who] was then rushed by a throng of police officers, Secret Service agents and SWAT officers armed with assault rifles to a side room... A law enforcement official told CNN no weapon was discovered. The GOP nominee was apparently unharmed and returned to the stage minutes later to finish his speech." Meanwhile, an anonymous reader writes: "All but two U.S. states have accepted help from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to probe and scan voter registration and election systems for vulnerabilities, a department official told Reuters." Ohio is relying on the National Guard's cyber protection unit, while Arizona says they've held discussions with the FBI, DHS and state-level agents on cyber security. But in addition, "U.S. military hackers have penetrated Russia's electric grid, telecommunications networks and the Kremlin's command systems, making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons should the U.S. deem it necessary, according to a senior intelligence official and top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News."

American officials believe Russian hacking efforts will continue through 2018, according to the Wall Street Journal. "By hacking and dumping emails, Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it...to make us look no better than the Russian electoral system,'" said one senior White House official. Russia is also expected to extend their efforts toward elections in Europe.

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  1. It was a guy with a sign ... by thrillseeker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... that said "Republicans Against Trump", and then some unidentified asshole yelled "gun!" and the crowd went wild - hope they find the asshole that yelled "Fire in a crowded theater" just for the hell of it, and hang his ass.

  2. Re:It was a guy with a sign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Won't stop the Trumpshills and the bought-and-sold Republican media (i.e. pretty much all of it) from hyping up the incident as further proof of their so-called Lord Trump and using lies about it as ammunition against Hillary.

    God, this election is so fucked. It perfectly reflects the fall of the USA over the last 15 years after we stupidly and blindly allowed the terrorists to scare us to fucking death, force government fascism, and divide us.

  3. And that's how it is done by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All but two U.S. states have accepted help from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security

    I would much rather have someone that I trust helping than the D.H.S.

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  4. Does anyone else think this is insane? by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But in addition, "U.S. military hackers have penetrated Russia's electric grid, telecommunications networks and the Kremlin's command systems, making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons should the U.S. deem it necessary, according to a senior intelligence official and top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News."

    Is it just me, or does anyone else think that this is insane?

    Assange never gives out details about who his leakers are, but even he took the time to state categorically that the Podesta leakers are did not come from the Russian government.

    Clearly he feels that there is some danger here for him to take this extraordinary step.

    Instead of setting up a hair-trigger response shouldn't we first have an investigation, and then approach this through diplomatic channels?

    Ye gods, Putin has to keep the appearance of strength in his country. What do you think he'll do if we start messing with their electrical grid?

    And in other news, we have Obama encouraging illegals to vote, which would appear at first glance to be Obama committing a felony on camera.

    What the fuck is happening to this country?

    1. Re:Does anyone else think this is insane? by quantaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Assange never gives out details about who his leakers are, but even he took the time to state categorically that the Podesta leakers are did not come from the Russian government.

      Clearly he feels that there is some danger here for him to take this extraordinary step.

      Or his source has never clearly identified itself as the Russia government and he's trying to maintain plausible deniability as to not destroy Wikileaks' credibility.

      And in other news, we have Obama encouraging illegals to vote, which would appear at first glance to be Obama committing a felony on camera.

      Which is why you should take a second glance. Did you notice how her question doesn't actually make sense? That's because someone cut off the first part of it and I'm very suspicious of what they left out. What seems to be the general question and answer is the following:

      Interviewer: American citizens who are the children of illegal immigrants are scared to vote because they they'll draw scrutiny and cause their families to be deported.

      Obama: That will not happen.

      What the fuck is happening to this country?

      People are lying to you about the state of the world, and you believe them.

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  5. Someone isn't very tech savvy by wasted · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "By hacking and dumping emails, Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it...to make us look no better than the Russian electoral system,'" said one senior White House official.

    "Hacking and dumping" emails is not the same as changing vote counts or forcing people to vote a certain way. The exposure of the content of emails was likely embarrassing to the Democratic Party and HRC, but it isn't election tampering.

    1. Re:Someone isn't very tech savvy by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not even clear Russia did anything.
      And the American electoral system looks chaotic enough on its own. It's the people running who make it look bad, not foreign hackers.

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    2. Re:Someone isn't very tech savvy by bradley13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If Russia is behind this, shame on them. However, there is no proof that this is the case. The Hillary campaign declares this, to distract from...

      ...the actual, important issue: the corruption and criminality exposed by those emails. Interestingly, no one is saying that the information is actually incorrect.

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  6. Paper Ballots Counted At The Precinct Level by TheNarrator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You want to prevent all hacking? Just use paper ballots counted at the precinct level. India has a billion people and it works just fine. Our election is important enough that it's foolish to trust it to unauditable, easily hacked voting machines when the alternative of hand counting is not that hard.

  7. Re:rare and well done by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And you have actual citations for these claims (and no, some alt-right blog is not a reference). Provide actual citations, preferably actual electoral records. Otherwise, I call bullshit.

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  8. incompetence by Tom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Russia is trying 'to denigrate the American electoral system, to make it look chaotic, make it look manipulable, make it look subject to intrusion, cheating and vulnerable so you can't trust it...

    No need to do anything on that front. All of Europe has been laughing about the US voting process for decades. You've got the most complicated, error-prone, untrustworthy election system I personally have ever seen or heard about. The fact that you're incapable of fixing it is the best proof that the whole system is broken beyond repair.

    I'm not just talking voting machines, I also mean Gerrymandering, the fact that you vote on a working day (seriously?) or that there are hour-long queues. You are holding elections the way 3rd world countries hold their first election in history, and it's just absolutely pathetic.

    What could Russia possibly do to discredit this abomination? If I were the russian general in charge, I'd tell my hackers to stay out of this, lest they accidentally fix something and make it better.

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  9. Re:not in N.C. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You links are all innuendo and speculation. Not one links to an actual investigation showing proof that fraud took place. That's because...

    Voter fraud really isn't a big problem. 31 probable cases out of over 1 billion votes cast.

    The precision with which they target African American voters is pretty shocking. For example, they researched various types of ID and then banned the ones most common with African Americans, only allowing the types that white people are more likely to have. They blocked early voting because African Americans were often motivated to vote by their church on a Sunday.

    These laws are not about stopping largely imaginary and totally insignificant fraud. Stop believing Trump, he doesn't have any evidence that its rigged against him or he would have requested a formal investigation. They are about stopping Democrats voting, by targeting certain groups, often by race.

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