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Remembering The Creator of Marvel's Doctor Strange, Steve Ditko (hollywoodreporter.com)

An anonymous reader writes: As Marvel publicizes its Doctor Strange movie, "there's one key figure you won't be hearing from: the person who created the Sorcerer Supreme." Steve Ditko (who also co-created Spider-Man with Stan Lee in 1962) introduced Doctor Strange in 1963, remembers The Hollywood Reporter, then abruptly left Marvel in 1966 to work for other publishers. "He would more or less be done with mainstream comics by the 1970s, though he would pop up from time to time (he co-created Squirrel Girl for Marvel in the 1990s)."

Ditko was recently involved in a Kickstarter campaign to honor the anniversaries of famous comics (in which 152 backers ultimately pledged $5,462). He celebrated his 89th birthday this week, but "He is private and has intentionally stayed out of the spotlight like J.D. Salinger," says the director of Doctor Strange, adding "I hope he goes to see the movie wherever he is, because I think we paid homage to his work."

The article includes fond memories of working with Ditko from both Jim Starlin and Stan Lee, who also praised his work in a book called The Art of Steve Ditko. "All I had to do was give Steve a one-line description of the plot and he'd be off and running. He'd take those skeleton outlines I had given him and turn them into classic little works of art that ended up being far cooler than I had any right to expect."

44 comments

  1. We're lucky by elrous0 · · Score: 2

    The fact that so many of these guys from the early days of Marvel are still alive is amazing, really. I doubt Stan Lee or Ditko could have imagined that they would still be kicking around and being venerated over 50 years after their seminal works.

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    1. Re:We're lucky by JustOK · · Score: 1

      Well, as they used to say: if the ink don't stink, it won't make you think.

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    2. Re:We're lucky by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Back in the day, black ink used in throwaway printings like pulp paper newspapers and comics was pig blood-based. Cheap was the name of the game.

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    3. Re:We're lucky by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Kevin Smith compared it to being alive at the same time as Homer or Shakespeare. I thought it was a silly comparison at first, but thinking about it, not only is it apt, but it undersells things. These are the guys who created the mythology the entire human race is likely be using to tell its stories for centuries, if not until the day entropy descends. We can interact with the living breathing creators today. That's a huge privilege.

  2. Headline bait (Meta) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had to read the ENTIRE (gasp) summary to make sure that he hadn't passed away, come on!

    1. Re:Headline bait (Meta) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, he's old enough that the odds are high he'll die soon enough.

      So get your mourning in now, before it becomes trendy and cool.

    2. Re:Headline bait (Meta) by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I think the odds are fairly high for all of us, depending on the election results.

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  3. no salinger, just a derivative of others by sittingnut · · Score: 1

    "He is private and has intentionally stayed out of the spotlight like J.D. Salinger"

    his is ok, but he is not salinger. fact that there is a new derivative movie based on characters he "created" (if that is the word, given comparative lateness of his characters to a genre, and which he did nothing to expand beyond its limitations).

    1. Re: no salinger, just a derivative of others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who is J.D. Salinger? What comic book characters did he create? The Green Lantern?

    2. Re:no salinger, just a derivative of others by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      his is ok, but he is not salinger.

      yeah, he's definitely more Garbo than Salinger.

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    3. Re: no salinger, just a derivative of others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's the guy who wrote Field of Dreams.

      It wasn't originally a cornfield. It was oats. And set outside Albany. They had to change it for the movie.

    4. Re:no salinger, just a derivative of others by hey! · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, maybe he's no Salinger, but he's not quite the talentless hack you paint him to be. He was very influential in establishing the look and story for many iconic characters -- Iron Man, Spider-Man, and of course Doctor Strange.

      I think a lot of people don't care for Ditko because of his politics -- he's an Objectivist. But the thing about really creative people is that there always a "where the hell did that come from?" aspect to their work. In that he's quite a bit more interesting than as an artist than Rand herself.

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    5. Re: no salinger, just a derivative of others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh he is not. Field of Dreams was based on the novel Shoeless Joe written by Ray Kinsella.

      Salinger wrote Cather in the Rye, and some other stuff:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Salinger#Books

  4. Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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    1. Re:Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who woke that arsehole up?

    2. Re:Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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    3. Re: Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't know, I thought it was a parody until the very last link...

    4. Re:Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take your pills.

    5. Re: Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK is his own parody.

    6. Re:Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Don't project your issues on apk! You forget to take yours or did you run out like you have your downmod points? Hahahaha.

    7. Re: Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    8. Re: Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See?

    9. Re: Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    10. Re:Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be driven but not crazy.

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  5. Wait a minuite by willoughby · · Score: 1

    "Squirrel Girl"? ...oh my..

    I'll be in my bunk...

    1. Re:Wait a minuite by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      A minor joke character to use when even the Avengers and Fantastic Four can't handle it.

      And now, the sad truth: she has more power than Aquaman for most situations.

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  6. RIP - he will be remembered for Squirrel Girl! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Squirrel Girl - possibly the finest artwork ever!

    1. Re:RIP - he will be remembered for Squirrel Girl! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's dead?

  7. His non mainstream characters are underappreciated by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    Mr. A was the basis for the question but significantly superior in the original conception

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    The Creeper was also incredibly good.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  8. Recall the lesson of Dormammu... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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  9. Re:His non mainstream characters are underapprecia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Apk is proving himself significantly superior to the open sourceror wannabes that try put him down on /. too https://entertainment.slashdot... nullifying their puny spells!

  10. Re:His non mainstream characters are underapprecia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I put on my robe and wizard hat.

  11. You're driven to desperation... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject: Your "downmod points" have been driven out of you & you're obviously crazy trying to take me on https://entertainment.slashdot... when all I have to do is post again after you unjustifiably down moderate me...

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    (HOWEVER - In your case Mr. UNIDENTIFIABLE "ne'er-do-well" worm? It's halcyon the drug given your earlier attempt @ projecting your faults onto me, lol)... apk

  12. Loved the film (read it as a boy) so... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Thru the mystic arts we harness energy & shape reality - We travel great distances in an instant" https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HSzx-zryEgM#t=20/

    "The Avengers protect the world from physical dangers - we safeguard it against more mystical threats" https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kNdM7b1Lm04#t=31/

    * Making it FASTER + SAFER vs. using remote DNS or browser addons for more security, speed, reliability & anonymity via what you have natively vs. illogically "Bolting on 'MoAr'" that uses more & DOES LESS!

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  13. Stan Lee and Marvel f***ed him and Kirby by jgfenix · · Score: 2

    Ditko and Kirby did most of the job while Lee collected the money and the fame. He didn't support them, the two men he owes most of his prestige.

    1. Re:Stan Lee and Marvel f***ed him and Kirby by K10W · · Score: 1

      Ditko and Kirby did most of the job while Lee collected the money and the fame. He didn't support them, the two men he owes most of his prestige.

      If only I had mod points. Always pissed me off since Lee is such a media whore and has often taken sole credit for stuff that was collaboration at best, theft at worst. Don't ge me wrong Stan Lee has some talent, just he built a lot of his fame on the backs of others he actively screwed out of recognition.

    2. Re:Stan Lee and Marvel f***ed him and Kirby by jgfenix · · Score: 1

      I used to idolize the man, with all that "Stan Lee presents" and the cameos he had in the comics long before the movies. But when I read what had happened it infuriated me.

  14. Dr Strange - played by FAGGOT BITCH CumberBITCH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Dr Strange - played by FAGGOT BITCH CumberBITCH

    Painted faces, pillow biting light in the loafer faggots - pretend heroes. All the Marvell faggot lovers sold out with their faggot vision. Gay insecure faggot pukes living in mom's basement love this faggot gay fantasy shit with men in tights with magic pretend superpowers. These are the fat faggot pieces of shit that America is housing now. No more heroes just fat sexless pathetic little faggot pukes in the basement clinging to a childhood.
    Marvell and DC have long sold out to the hate-America-first faggot loving fag painted faces bitch vagina version of their "art" (fart).
    The man tits on the vaginified American male with the heels of wicked bitch witches like Sheryl Lean In Bitch Sandberg running the show with corruption greed and criminal racketeering.
    The superhero franchises are themselves held prisoner by CORPORATIONS - hah - they were supposed to be the small guy fixing the wrongs of the world with super powers now the very IDEA of such an individual is OWNED by corporations that love faggots and gay boys instead of real HARD Americans who say NO to the fucked up shit going on in the world today.
    Next will be spic wetback "heroes" and Islamic whitewash heroes. And of course LGBTQ BBS LOL WTF BBQ heroes. Notice how the franchises have also replaced heroes with "MINORITY" versions. This disgusting token palette swapping is just more GAY FAGGOT BITCH shit.

    FUCK YOU Slashdot for DELETING posts. I know you are doing it. FUCK YOU LIAR PUSSY. YOU are editing REALITY and killing PUBLIUS and FREE SPEECH and YOU, SlashFUCKDot are the new PRAVDA and the ENEMY of FREE INFORMATION.

    INFORMATION wants to be free. We are DEVELOPING WATCHING PLATFORMS to TRACK what you SCUM in the media try and hide from the world. SCUM!
    Stan LEE is a _FUCKING_ GOD DAMNED sell out prick bitch who sucks FAGGOT GOAT DICK. Benedict CumberBITCH is a faggot loving liberal bitch liar SCUM limousine liberal FUCK FACE. Steve Ditko is a FAGGOT LOVING BITCH sellout.

    FUCK YOU ALL deletionist prick motherfucker FAGGOT loving bitches SUGAR BITCH. WE ARE WATCHING. IT ALL.

    1. Re:Dr Strange - played by FAGGOT BITCH CumberBITCH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate faggots as much as the other guy, but your incoherent rantings are giving the anti-faggot movement a bad name.

  15. Dr Strange - played by FAGGOT BITCH CumberBITCH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Dr Strange - played by FAGGOT BITCH CumberBITCH

    Painted faces, pillow biting light in the loafer faggots - pretend heroes. All the Marvell faggot lovers sold out with their faggot vision. Gay insecure faggot pukes living in mom's basement love this faggot gay fantasy shit with men in tights with magic pretend superpowers. These are the fat faggot pieces of shit that America is housing now. No more heroes just fat sexless pathetic little faggot pukes in the basement clinging to a childhood.
    Marvell and DC have long sold out to the hate-America-first faggot loving fag painted faces bitch vagina version of their "art" (fart).
    The man tits on the vaginified American male with the heels of wicked bitch witches like Sheryl Lean In Bitch Sandberg running the show with corruption greed and criminal racketeering.
    The superhero franchises are themselves held prisoner by CORPORATIONS - hah - they were supposed to be the small guy fixing the wrongs of the world with super powers now the very IDEA of such an individual is OWNED by corporations that love faggots and gay boys instead of real HARD Americans who say NO to the fucked up shit going on in the world today.
    Next will be spic wetback "heroes" and Islamic whitewash heroes. And of course LGBTQ BBS LOL WTF BBQ heroes. Notice how the franchises have also replaced heroes with "MINORITY" versions. This disgusting token palette swapping is just more GAY FAGGOT BITCH shit.

    FUCK YOU Slashdot for DELETING posts. I know you are doing it. FUCK YOU LIAR PUSSY. YOU are editing REALITY and killing PUBLIUS and FREE SPEECH and YOU, SlashFUCKDot are the new PRAVDA and the ENEMY of FREE INFORMATION.

    INFORMATION wants to be free. We are DEVELOPING WATCHING PLATFORMS to TRACK what you SCUM in the media try and hide from the world. SCUM!
    Stan LEE is a _FUCKING_ GOD DAMNED sell out prick bitch who sucks FAGGOT GOAT DICK. Benedict CumberBITCH is a faggot loving liberal bitch liar SCUM limousine liberal FUCK FACE. Steve Ditko is a FAGGOT LOVING BITCH sellout.

    FUCK YOU ALL deletionist prick motherfucker FAGGOT loving bitches SUGAR BITCH. WE ARE WATCHING. IT ALL.

    deflate

  16. Ditko is producing more work now than ever before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People often talk about Ditkos work in the past tense paying homage to his best remembered creations. However the fact is that over the last decade Ditko has been at his most prolific. His is currently turning out 32 page comics at the rate of about 4-5 a year. He publishes them with assistance from his long term friend Robin Snyder. Not only that but over the last years he has moved to funding these through kickstarter which makes them easy to purchase. His line work is much simpler than it used to be, and he has taken over his own dialogue which is an acquired taste, but his visually story telling is arguably better than ever.
    See this link for a complete list:
    http://ditko.blogspot.co.uk/p/ditko-book-in-print.html

  17. I was only exposed to his EARLY work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Perhaps not his earliest but from SpiderMan #1 to around the time John Romita took over artwork (good stuff too circa around the time he took on KingPin or shortly before & after).

    There was a "certain something" about the spidey tales I liked - an "atmosphere" (perhaps his struggles in highschool before collegiate academia & working for J. Jonah Jameson @ the Bugle) that wasn't ever matched.

    His Dr. Strange tales though? WoW!!!

    From the 1st issue in Strange Tales up until he took on Dormammu in the "dark dimension" & where he meets Clea was really truly great stuff... we've seen the start of that from the film & it was pretty close to 100% 'authentic' (some alterations like Mordo for example aren't exact & how he took on Dormammu was exact either, no Clea or the "mindless ones" but still good).

    See - to be honest? I never considered Steve Ditko's artwork great but it somehow lent to the wild stories of those early adventures really, Really, REALLY well! They were SO different vs. other marvel titles & that is what made them so good. Unique.

    The artwork @ marvel got progressively better @ Marvel (not really the artists but the GREAT inker Joe Sinnott imo was a HUGE difference for them there - he made ANY artist MUCH better (even Jack Kirby or George Perez))

    APK

    P.S.=> My apologies for the idiot trolls above earlier who always do the crap they did to me plus "stirring me up" but they are jackasses of the HIGHEST order & TOTAL "ne'er-do-well" LOSERS that needed to hear what they did from me (jealous nobodies that wish they were me, lol)... apk

  18. "Thru the mystic arts..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: "We harness energy & shape reality - We travel great distances in an instant" https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HSzx-zryEgM#t=20/

    "The Avengers protect the world from physical dangers - we safeguard it against more mystical threats" https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kNdM7b1Lm04#t=31/

    * Making it FASTER + SAFER vs. using remote DNS or browser addons for more security, speed, reliability & anonymity via what you have natively vs. illogically "Bolting on 'MoAr'" that uses more & DOES LESS!

    APK

    P.S.=> "How do I get from here to there?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kNdM7b1Lm04#t=107/

    ANSWER APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/... apk