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Donald Trump Wins US Presidency (nytimes.com)
It's official: Donald Trump has won the 2016 presidential election. Slashdot reader Xenographic writes: Google's map of results is now calling the race for Donald J. Trump. This is something that Nate Silver jokingly predicted back on May 10th when he wrote "Reminder: Cubs will win the World Series and, in exchange, President Trump will be elected 8 days later." The House and Senate are also under Republican control. In other news, the Canadian immigration site has crashed under heavy load.This is how The New York Times, America's top newspaper reported the news:The surprise outcome, defying late polls that showed Hillary Clinton with a modest but persistent edge, threatened convulsions throughout the country and the world, where skeptics had watched with alarm as Mr. Trump's unvarnished overtures to disillusioned voters took hold. The triumph for Mr. Trump, 70, a real estate developer-turned-reality television star with no government experience, was a powerful rejection of the establishment forces that had assembled against him, from the world of business to government, and the consensus they had forged on everything from trade to immigration. The results amounted to a repudiation, not only of Mrs. Clinton, but of President Obama, whose legacy is suddenly imperiled. And it was a decisive demonstration of power by a largely overlooked coalition of mostly blue-collar white and working-class voters who felt that the promise of the United States had slipped their grasp amid decades of globalization and multiculturalism. Update: The New Yorker's Editor-in-Chief David Remnick, described the Election outcome as "an American tragedy." The New York Times columnist Paul Krugman said, "Trump will bring global recession." BBC has an article on how the media worldwide has described Trump's victory. The Guardian captured the thoughts of world leaders on the matter. Hillary Clinton addressed the nation this morning and told her supporters that they all should keep an open mind and give Trump the chance to lead.
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Editor's note: this story has been updated with more details, and also moved to the top of the front page because of its importance.
Dear DNC and superdelegates: Thanks so much for giving us the most unpopular Democratic nominee in living memory. What should have been a landslide win has become a complete fucking nightmare. Good job.
Please consolidate all the comments about how sexist/racist/xenophobic America is because they didn't coronate Hillary under this comment for organizational purposes. Please provide reasons for why a bunch of people who were "good" when they voted for Obama deserve to be shipped off to your concentration camps today for failing to do as they were told.
Also, you can post your real estate listings here since you ARE actually going to man up (ooh wait.. too cisgendered a term there) and move to Canada right?
Interesting microcosm of why Hillary ACTUALLY lost that can't be boiled down to a prejudiced throw-away "ism" hurled at groups of people you don't like: Tonight she flat out refused to go out and face her own supporters at her lavish "victory" party. Not even to thank them for their hard work. No class whatsoever where it actually counts.
AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
Incidentally, for those looking for someone to blame here, look no further than the DNC:
Read the PDF attachment on this email for the source.
Since term limits began we've been in a cycle of 8 years one party, 8 years the other. Bush (the first) was the only exception, because Reagan was ridiculously popular and Dukakis wasn't.
More accurately, Republicans have a base of ~40% that turns out no matter what; Democrats don't, which is why all the true landslides of the past 50 years have gone to Republicans. The party cycle is pretty much all because of Democrats; after two elections they become complacent and idealistic and stop turning out, then it takes a couple terms of Republicans to build up the fire in their belly again. It would be funny, except for how many people suffer in the meantime.
And if you were one of those idealists who would only vote for Bernie, remember that idealism is an extremism as dangerous as any other, because it ends in letting the world burn because you won't settle for second best.
Anyway, all hail Grand Nagus Trump and see you in 2018.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
Most of the senate seats up in 2018 are Democrats, not to mention how many supreme court justices he's replaced by then. We'll be dealing with the fallout from this for a long time.
And don't think for a minute that the Republican congress won't exploit Trump to get legislation passed. Narcissists are easy to manipulate; put their ego on the line and they can be goaded into anything.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
It was predicted in the primaries. Hillary Clinton was the weakest possible candidate against Trump. If the party had rallied around Bernie Sanders, Trump would have lost. So many of the Trump votes were anti-Hillary protest votes. A vote for Hillary in the primaries was a vote for Trump.
Learn to love Alaska
You realize Hillary and trump both won their party's nomination
Yes, of course.
fair and square, right?
You're joking, right?
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
1) Both the Bush and Clinton crime families are finished. They will never hold any power in either side of the Ruling Party again.
2) Trump is ego driven. He has no actual policy agenda.
3) Trey Gowdy might actually have enough integrity to prosecute criminals from both sides of the Ruling Party. Obama gave Bush's minions a walk as a professional courtesy.
4) This defeat is an opportunity for the Democrats to clean house, big time. (Not that I really expect them to do so, but still.)
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Early in the primaries, Sanders was really close to Clinton in elected delegate count - within about 10%-15%.. But all the media reported the delegate count including the DNC-selected superdelgates, making it appear as if Clinton had an insurmountable 40%-60% lead. That had the effect of discouraging potential Sanders voters from bothering to vote because the primary race was "already over", as well as swaying undecideds to not seriously consider Sanders because "he didn't have a realistic chance of winning."
One party deliberately manipulated their primary process to select the candidate the party bosses wanted, instead of the candidate the voters wanted. The other party grudgingly accepted the voters' choice of nominee even though the party bosses thought it was crazy stupid. The first party lost the Presidency. The latter party won it. Turns out listening to the voters' choice instead of the party bosses' opinions pays off in a democracy. Who'd've thunk it.
Vote for the damn issues, AND, whatever or whoever serves their ACTUALLY HAPPENING, however incrementally.
This means NO THIRD PARTY shit,
What if I think voting third party is the best way to accomplish the issues I care about?
NO PROTEST VOTES,
I agree with that, as my reply above said.
PARTICIPATING IN PRIMARIES,
Yes, but they aren't the be-all-end-all some think they are, as this year showed.
and VOTING FOR ONE OF THE TWO.
Sorry, now I have to tell you to fuck off. I vote for who I want, from whichever party, for my own reason. If that happens to be NOT one of the two main parties, so be it. It is my choice, my vote, not yours. So, again, kindly fuck off.
FUCK.
Not tonight, my wife is too depressed.
If you think I voted for Trump because of this post, you're wrong. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. Again.
Obamacare is literally keeping my sister alive. The medication she needs to survive costs $5000/month and is not covered by her employer's insurance (she's a teacher at a private school). Thanks to Obamacare she was able to get into an exchange and buy insurance that does cover her medication for only $500/month. Being on a teacher's salary, my parents who are retired help her out. With her pre-existing conditions, there's no way any insurance company would take her and she'd quickly hit the limits with the medical issues she's had since every couple of years something major comes up. Her medication is so expensive because it is derived from human blood because her immune system has shut down and isn't making antibodies. And Trump's plan with tax deductions won't come close to paying for the medication, especially on a teachers salary where she doesn't pay much if any federal taxes.
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I knew it wouldn't be long before someone would Godwin this thread. The slight difference is that Trump doesn't want to exterminate the entire race of Hispanic people, and isn't intent on conquering some Lebensraum for his master race to spread out into Canada. Don't forget, we've had men of questionable morals in the White House before, and we certainly will again. Probably women too, in the future. Trump is an arrogant ass, but seriously comparing him to one of the most evil mass-murderers in modern history demonstrates a lack of perspective, or at least a severe lack of faith in the people of the US, to think anyone would go along with such schemes.
I'd hope that you can now understand the angst of conservative voters when President Obama won the last two elections. Or perhaps I can at least empathize with you a bit because of that, if you're not feeling very empathetic yourself yet. Many conservatives predicted the end of America as we know it, and they were just as wrong. I believe America is still a strong country, generally made up of good people who just want to get along with their neighbors and live their lives in peace. Maybe you think that's naive or optimistic, but so be it.
If nothing else, just keep reminding yourself that you'll have another chance to vote him out in four years.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
The DNC's failure started long before that, they should not have attempted a coronation.
This year's Democrat primary was truly weird, no Presidential incumbent but only a single prominent Democrat running? How the hell did that happen? It should have been a crowded field like 2008. Somehow the party machine convinced other prominent Democrats to stay out of the race, "it was her turn". There was one token opponent who mostly said he largely agreed with her and that she would be a good President. And there was the Independent running as a Democrat, a party outsider, Bernie.
It should have been a crowded Democratic primary field like 2008 and a more viable candidate emerging like in 2008. But that didn't work out for the party machine's preferred candidate last time did it, so they worked to avoid that same mistake and essentially ran here "unopposed" in the primary. The shock of Bernie doing so well should have told them something, but no, "it was her turn".
[sarcasm] DNC, thank you for Trump. You found the one candidate he could beat [/sarcasm].
Trump doesn't give a shit about the law or about the people he claims to represent. He has been screwing ordinary, hard working Americans his entire life. Using cheap immigrant labour to build his business empire, setting up scams like Trump University. He's a billionaire who was given a huge loan by his parents, not a man of the people.
Oh good, now we've got your bullshit out of the way. Remember that part where Hillary wanted to enforce no-fly-zones against Russia in Syira, and operated multiple pay-for-play scandals?
You know nothing about Europe. The child abuse in Rotherham was by people of Asian descent, mostly from Pakistan. They and their parents mostly came here in the 60s and 70s, before we even joined the EU, from our old Commonwealth empire. I happen to be half Asian, so FUCK YOU for even playing the race card.
Oh so which is it? They're asian or pakistani? They came here in the 60's and 70's? Or multiple people who were arrested were "new immigrants" and were in their 20's and 30's. According to the court records. I also happen to be half-asian(actual half-asian, not the lovely code-word that UK and EU media likes to use for people from the middle east). So fuck you for trying to be a weaseling little shit, and trying to crawl out of it.
Deporting people isn't going to make America great again, unless you think working for pennies on the Dollar is great.
Gotcha. Ensuring that companies actually employ americans = bad. Stopping the flow of illegals that cause crimes = bad. Bet you're right there cheering on H1B's replacing Americans and them being forced to train their replacement too.
Om, nomnomnom...
And so people voted for the blabbering airhead instead of the lizard. People of or for the left: please learn your lesson. Reform politics. Create an "alt-left"... or just continue down your current path, keep making your token snide remarks and behold as the right destroys everything.
The lesson here is that the democratic party is not left-wing. The Green party is our only real left-wing party, and it is a whisper of a murmur of passage in the night compared to the other parties. The Democratic party is a centrist, status-quo-maintaining party, and this is a time when people are demanding change. Remember how Obama ran on the Hope (you don't get drone striked or indefinitely detained) and Change (prior administration's policies very little) platform? Problem is, he failed to meet people's hopes and he delivered very little change. Racism is clearly still as rampant as ever so having a black president clearly didn't accomplish anything, and nothing has really changed. The world is still at the brink of war, the same number of people are still seeking employment because the unemployment rate is still a lie (just as it was under republican presidents in the past, this is a bi-partisan effort to fuck us) and he's going to let Standing Rock "play out for a few weeks" after promising that the natives there would not stand alone. So provably, clearly, undeniably, the Democrats could not run on the platform of Change when even their color-changed candidate couldn't provide any. They ran on the basis of maintaining the status quo at a time when people are clearly done doing that.
At best, the DNC is a bunch of incompetent raving lunatics. At worst, they threw the election.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Don't forget that the DNC actively encouraged people to vote in the Republican primaries for Trump, because that's who they wanted to run against instead of a more moderate, experienced, and level headed candidate.
They got who they wanted, and they rigged their own primary to nominate their candidate; then they fucked the dog and lost the election through smugness and not paying attention to what the voters were actually telling since the early primaries.
They lost an election. The whole country will lose far more than that. Thanks, DNC. And I say this as a registered Republican, who did not vote for Trump.
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How is it that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 20% of congress?
For the same reason that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 15% of the prison population... they take fewer risks.
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
Really? How many women are CEOs of Fortune 500 companies? How many women have been president? Vice president? How is it that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 20% of congress? If you honestly think it is a level playing field then you are either delusional or sexist.
Why does it matter? Why do you want to force people into positions that they don't want? Why do you believe that someones genitals, or sexual identity is important? Do you also believe the same thing about an individuals race? Why does it seem your most important qualification to hire someone, or have them in office is something that they're born with.
All of those things? If you want to put people a head of others based on characteristics that they were born with instead of their skill, ability, or the earned merit that they gained from hard work. You're no different then a sexist that believed that only men could be doctors or politicians in the 1910's and earlier. Or a racist in the 1960's that believed those "blacks and/or mexicans" could never be educated enough to succeed.
Om, nomnomnom...
If the democrats learn a single lesson from this election, it's that:
Democracy is compromise.
Starting a negotiation with the premise (stated stridently and repeatedly) that anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a complete and utter fucking moron doesn't make you right. It makes people hate you.
-Styopa