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President Obama Gives Up On The Trans-Pacific Partnership (theguardian.com)

An anonymous reader quotes The Guardian: White House officials conceded on Friday that the president's hard-fought-for Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal would not pass Congress, as lawmakers there prepared for the anti-global trade policies of President-elect Donald Trump. Earlier this week, congressional leaders in both parties said they would not bring the trade deal forward during a lame-duck session of Congress, before the formal transition of power on January 20.
One Canadian law professor had argued the case against the TPP included its unbalanced intellectual property rules and risks to privacy, while the EFF believed it locked in the worst parts of U.S. copyright law and also exported them to other countries.

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  1. MPAA, RIAA and Big Pharma by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From what I've read, the law was written by the MPAA/RIAA cartel, along with considerable input from Big Pharma. The law was designed more for the protection of those conglomerates, and less for any benefit of consumers. There's a reason why the creation of the law was so secretive.

    1. Re:MPAA, RIAA and Big Pharma by justthinkit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So why did democrats want it, and republicans not want it?

      If we're not careful, we may have to give republicans the nod on this one.

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    2. Re:MPAA, RIAA and Big Pharma by Altrag · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It was written by a lot of big corporations -- those are just the ones we tend to hear about the most because that's what the Slashdot crowd tend to focus on.

      There's a lot of bad things in there for farmers and manufacturers as well, not to mention that whole investor-state bullshit that effectively lets companies override a country's sovereignty in order to protect their bottom line, weakening of environmental protections around the world and so on.

      Its basically every Christmas and birthday present ever wrapped up and given to multinationals at the cost of local businesses, consumer rights and jobs (at least American jobs. It'd probably be great for creating Malaysian sweatshop jobs as we outsource even more labor to the lowest-wage, lowest-legal-protections country in the TPP roster.)

    3. Re:MPAA, RIAA and Big Pharma by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...and republicans not want it?...

      Since Inaugural Day 2009, the Republicans were against nearly anything and everything Pres Obama was in favor of. The Party of No, or have you been sleeping for these past eight years?

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      The Democrats were in favor of it because of the liberal Hollywood money.

    4. Re:MPAA, RIAA and Big Pharma by geoskd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wow, I think we might be seeing an actual difference. There was never any difference between Democrats and Republicans But there might be some difference between Trump and Democrats/Republicans. Most of it could be bad, but still...

      A very large segment of the population no logner cares if trump is good or bad, they are just sick of getting screwed by the politicians, and if trump ends up screwing them just like every other president in recent history, at least some of the elites are likely to take it in the shorts as well. Its the scorched earth mentality, and it is the logical result of 30+ years of policy that favors the wealthy at everyone elses expense. Anyone who thinks that this is a strictly the republicans doing, needs to take a close look a the Clinton economic policy (both of them) to realize that the democrats were just as complicit. These asshole politicians made their own bed over the last three decades and are either so insulated from their actual constituency, or so corrupt they don't care how bad they are screwing the majority of the people. I for one loathe Both trump and Clinton, but at least with Trump there is a chance that those with the power and the money will get the hint and in 4 years will put some policies on the table that actually benefit society instead of the new feudal lords. Policies like single payer health care, and free education are not just nice sounding ideas, they are all that stands between the trump hordes and open revolution. Trump was just a warning shot, the next round will be played with live ammo.

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  2. Good News by blogagog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Free trade is great, but the TPP was mostly not about trade. It was about copyright.

    1. Re:Good News by Loki_1929 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Free trade reduces the inequality between wealthier and poorer nations. Great if you're in the latter. Bad if you're not one of the few elites in the former who can make that benefit you. It's not a win-win for both sides as the two-sides-of-the-same-coin major parties have been preaching in the US. It's absurd to believe otherwise. If the Democrats were actually still the party of the working class, they'd be fighting to retrain younger blue collar union workers for realistic transitions and protect older union workers (for whom retraining isn't realistic) from job exportation.

      Free trade isn't great for everyone. And as soon as someone came along and admitted that (instead of trying to explain to a 48 year old factory worker who's losing the only job he's had for 30 years to free trade, who has no other skills or education, who has no prospects moving forward, but does have a wife, two kids, and a mortgage, how this is all somehow good for him), all sorts of lifelong Democrats suddenly showed up to vote for that person (who was very much not a Democrat). Let's stop lying about this "rising tide raises all ships" bullshit and start telling the truth: if you're doing something where the skills involved are limited and the labor costs make up a sizable portion of the total costs involved, you're going to fucked first by free trade (because it's cheaper) and second by automation (because it eventually becomes cost-effective). Step one is admitting you have a problem (and this also requires recognizing that these people actually matter). Step two is figuring out what you're going to do for all the third-generation 48 year olds with two kids and a mortgage who are in this situation. And whatever that is, it better be realistic for them and it better pay at least 85% of what they were making before or no amount of belt-tightening is going to keep them going.

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  3. First Victory! by fox171171 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems like they are trying to make it sound like the TPP was a good thing, and Donald is ruining it for everyone. Except the TPP was definitely a bad thing for anyone who isn't the head of a huge corporation. Maybe this Trump thing could be a good thing.

  4. Re:Trump is not anti-trade by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The idea that tariffs were invented for "freedom" is absurd. They were invented to protect domestic industries against competition. And the lesson of erecting large tariff walls is that it is the consumer that ends up paying to protect these industries, and the industries themselves become ever less competitive, protected in a nice encirclement of economic privilege. But that cannot be sustained forever, and eventually when the door opens a little bit, the coddled and increasingly indolent domestic industry is crushed.

    Besides, the whole fucking thing is going to be automated in a few decades. Even the wage slaves of Bangladesh and China will be out of a job. And then what? Erect tariffs against foreign robots, or even better, against domestic robots?

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  5. Re:What's with this obsession with confrontation? by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There was never a single country that *invaded* Russia that didn't regret it profoundly. Russia (and the Russian dominated Soviet Union) has been successfully confronted many times.

    The "obsession" with confrontation is that it's run by an authoritarian who assasinates and jails his political opponents, is killing civilians wholesale in Syria, has subverted his country's electoral process, and has ambitions of creating an empire in Europe. Not opposing people like that is also something people have historically regretted. So the smart thing is to oppose him without invading his country.

    Fortunately for us Putin's run his country's economy into the ground with crony capitalism. It's too bad for the Russians but soon the economic disaster is going to curtail his international ambitions.

    I'm all for being friends with Russia. I said back in '92 George H.W. Bush was making a big mistake by not extending Russia the hand of friendship. But at present there's no way to separate Russia from Putin, and Putin should be contained.

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