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Samsung Really, Really Wants Developers To Build Tizen Apps (theinquirer.net)
Samsung wants developers to build apps for its homegrown Tizen mobile operating system, and it is offering cash prizes to do so. From a report on The Inquirer:The firm has launched the Tizen Mobile App Incentive Programme, which offers devs whose apps feature in the top 100 most downloaded rankings (can't be that hard, surely) a $10,000 reward. The firm will pay up to $1m a month from February to September 2017, Samsung said, making a total of $9m up for grabs. Developers will be able to sign up for the Tizen incentive programme from January 2017, and the firm explained that applications must be developed using the Tizen SDK and aimed at the Tizen-powered Samsung Z1, Z2 and Z3.
As soon they provide tizen for GT-S8500 (my current phone with Bada 1.0). They promising it since 2011.
Only modern app appers can enter this appy contest, NOT LUDDITES! The appiest app will app all the apps while apping more apps!
Apps!
We Really, Really don't give a fuck about yet another proprietary and/or Tivo-ized OS...
This is no longer my world.
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Begun the fart app wars have.
The "most downloaded" metric is easy to abuse. These awards will fast-track the degradation of their app store.
On another note (pun not intended), I claim the free flashlight app's top 100 spot.
Google desperately needs some legitimate competition in the mobile OS space.
A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
If Samsung wants developers to make Tizen apps, Samsung should be putting Tizen phones in the hands of developers.
Just a thought?
The question is, will anyone outside South Korea bite?
Talk to (or just buy) BlackBerry. I'm sure they'd be a wealth of information on how to woo Android developers.
Log in or piss off.
something of a catch-22 if there's no users, there no desire or apps, and if there's no apps users won't buy.
Do we really need another mobile operating system in the ecosystem? Unless this one offers the stability that Android currently lacks, I am totally not interested.
If Samsung really wants that, how about making Tizen actual open source instead of pretend open source?
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
What is Tizen like to develop for ?
What might swing it for me is a reasonable UI interaction designer like Visual C++ had in MFC days, but doesn't have any more, and Android never had, and don't get me started on Xcode.
Some good class libraries ?
Decent debugger ?
What's it like ?
If they want it to succeed they should make the API compatible with Android. There's already too many incompatible mobile OS's. Look at all the wasted effort developers have to do writing two versions of the app, one for iOS and one for android.
Well, at least they seem to be putting more effort into it than Microsoft did for mobile. :P
We really don't need more proprietary competing platforms in the wearable, mobile and IoT market.
I'd be all for Tizen if it was open source, but at this point it just sounds to me like the horrible crap software they put on smart tvs.
They are all fast outdated, after developers put out the first stable version they never update the software anymore, and it's a horrible experience in comparison to almost anything else in the market.
I don't think Android is the solution for everything, but until we have more open source OSs for these devices (Linux is not catching up), I'd just rather have Android everywhere. Android TV, Android smartwatches, and the like.
From the story:
Like WIRED, the INQUIRER admits that its engineers are incompetent at falling back to alternative advertising providers that do not track users. From its technical support page:
So here's an excerpt from an e-mail that I just sent to its support department:
If Samsung wants developers and users play with Tizen, why don't they have all / most of their phones dual boot with both android and tizen as the alternate. The people who aren't interested won't probably even notice it is there. The developer and power users will be able to start playing with it and possibly gain interest / marketshare.
No good deed goes unpunished.
All those apps will no doubt allow its phone to explode into new markets.
Right now, the "two" are Android and Apple. Blackberry has fallen off, and Microsoft never really had a serious chance at the mobile market share. I really can't imagine what Tizen would have to offer. Apps? That's what they're going for here? Are there not already enough on the other chosen platforms? Maybe I'm pessimistic, but I think it's just far too late for a company to expect to be a major player in mobile device operating systems.
From Validation Guidelines:
This is likely to prove inconvenient to users as Samsung expands Tizen from phones to larger devices such as tablets. Enjoy your 10-inch four-function calculator.
Another set of three rules taken together would make several kinds of video game impractical to develop for Tizen. There are four ways to display a game on a device that supports multiple orientations:
A. Force an orientation. This is common on both iOS and Android but is forbidden on Tizen by the rule "Application should be displayed and work correctly regardless of the screen’s orientation."
B. Letterbox if in the wrong orientation. I've seen this in a few Android games to compensate for the difference between 16:9 devices and 4:3 devices. But this is forbidden on Android by the rule "Application should cover the entire screen of a device."
C. Stretch if in the wrong orientation. I haven't seen this in Android applications, but I included it for completeness to mention that Tizen prohibits it as well: "Application should not contain any overlapped or truncated text, graphics distortion, or any kinds of display errors.
D. Switching between landscape and portrait modes causes a radical rearrangement of user interface elements and/or a change to how much of the playfield the player can see at once. This is likely to confuse players.
This completely ignores plenty of lawful uses of copyrighted works under statutory exceptions. These could be either a royalty-free exception, such as fair dealing or fair use, or a compulsory license, such as Internet radio.
Bye bye Dropbox.
Bye bye any game that would be rated M by the ESRB, as well as many games that would be rated T.
If even Duck Hunt wouldn't be appropriate, I don't know what would.
So disparaging Nazis for their white nationalist ideology is forbidden.
Furthermore, from Tizen Application Compliance:
Bye bye any game with a competitive online multiplayer component, unless Samsung has chosen to be very generous as to what it considers "a reasonable re-starting point."
There is a huge cult following on the NX1 as the hardware is amazing but the closed source firmware is hampering the progress
When smartphone temperature exceeds 60 degrees, the app activates the GPS and sends the coordinates to the fire brigade.
It probably also really, really want's people to use Tizen, but that ain't happening.
...is not so good. Such an app store is more likely to abuse developers than Apple or Google (who themselves are no angels).
Nobody gives fsck about Tizen anymore. Not after Samsung shut down Skype app on a $3000 TV and started requiring most major apps like Netflix to send data back to Samsung (Netflix on s Sams TV does not work without that). Oh well, at least their TVs don't start fires [yet].
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1.) offer an open and flexible FOSS mobile OS.
2.) offer an open and flexible mobile development FOSS toolchain.
3.) offer a range of non-locked, battery replacable, non-artificially memory/performance castrated handsets and tablets on which to install said OS and apps.
Provide that and I'm switching to Samsung and Tizen inmediately.
Until that happens though, I'm sticking with Android and affordable Motorola Handsets, thank you.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
By proprietary, if you mean 'belongs to a company', that is right. If you mean it's not open source, then you're wrong, since it is Linux. Since Replicant hasn't been hitting the shelves, good luck finding a non TiVo-ized OS
Speaking of which, even Android is TiVo-ized, since you can't install your modified version of Android on your phone w/o breaking things
Con jobs are for half of the US voters, which themselves are half of the US population.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Seriously, they might want to make sure that the same or better apps end up in Android space.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
"So disparaging Nazis for their white nationalist ideology is forbidden." .. you do know this leftist bullshit stops on Jan 20th next year, right? In case you have forgotten, President-Elect Donald Trump will become the 45th President of the United States. I got no problem calling you people out anymore, the Obama-Sustainable-Diversity-Agenda2030-Rainbow-LGBT-Marxist-Faggot-Train is arriving at the depot for dismantling and scrapping.
I can't load applets (or spyware/malware) on my retired Samsung/Tizen phone but it is far more stable platform than my new Samsung/Android phone. I just wish this policy supported older versions of Tizen O.S.
A made-up word has the best trademark protection, and for good reason.
You say Blackberry means something, consider Apple. Apple means something, and that killed the Apple ][ .
The Beatles brand name was Apple. They called their record company Apple Records and their holding company Apple Corps. The records featured a logo of an apple.
A bit later, Steve Jobs also thought Apple was a good brand name. After a few years there were law suits. In 1978 Apple (computers) had to pay Apple (records) chunk of money, while Apple Corps agreed they would never get into the computer business and Apple Computer agreed they'd never sell get into the music business.
Apple installed chips from Ensoniq, a well-known maker of musical synthesizers, in the Apple ][Â That meant the Apple ][ could be used as a synth. At the time, Apple Records was well known for synthesizer music, so of course they sued again. That was the end of the Apple ][Â
Then a few years later along came the iPod and i Tunes. Apple sued Apple again, of course, since they weren't supposed to be in the music business.
Making up a new word for your trademark is a really good idea.
Get a grip on fixing people's phones without telling them that their "warranty is void" first, then come back and talk Tizen. You are done, good bye x
I worked on a contract in which an auto manufacturer was trying to use that abomination, and we could never even get the source to compile. Literally a year later, it came out that Samsung was trying to use both git/gerrit and Perforce as version control for it, mixed between different teams:
Luckily, that contract was short term. But because I put it on my resume, I got a few head-hunters inquiring about it. Quickly though, interest waned. Not hard to see why...
But Samsung rejected it!
The dangers of excessive individualism are nothing compared to the oppressiveness of excessive collectivism
I wonder how many incendiary self destruct apps will be submitted
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
Why don't they just spend that money putting the OSP libraries back into Tizen, then all our existing pre-version 2.3 Tizen programs will be useful again.
http://www.mobilenations.de/blog/en/2015/03/kommentar-zu-tizen-2-3-und-samsungs-entscheidung-gegen-osp/
Seriously, what's wrong with these people? Talk about "breaking changes".... more like "nuking changes".