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Charter Customer Sues Over Hidden Fees, Claims 'Massive Billing Fraud' (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: A Charter customer has sued the cable company, alleging that it falsely advertises a lower price than it actually charges and falsely tells customers that extra fees tacked onto their bills are mandated by the government. The complaint, filed in California State Superior court in San Diego, takes aim at the "Broadcast TV" and "Sports Programming" surcharges that are added to customers' bills despite not being included in the advertised rate. "Charter is committing massive billing fraud by disguising price increases above the advertised and promised service package price in the form of the bogus 'Broadcast TV and Sports Programming Surcharges' line item on customer bills," said the lawsuit filed last week by Michael Song. The plaintiff is a subscriber in California, where Charter, the second largest cable company in the US after Comcast, operates via its newly acquired Time Warner Cable (TWC) subsidiary. Song is paying an extra $8.75 a month from those two fees combined. In addition to subtracting the fees from the advertised price, Charter falsely tells customers that it collects the fees to comply with government mandates, the lawsuit says. A Charter/TWC bill from last month is included in the complaint, and it says, "TWC imposes surcharges to recover costs of complying with its governmental obligations." Song's complaint also has a transcript of a chat with a Charter customer service agent, who claimed that Charter pays the broadcast fee back to the government. The customer service agent apparently has only a limited grasp of English, but the chat transcript helps illustrate one of the ways in which customers are being misinformed about their bills. Song's lawsuit repeatedly refers to the Broadcast TV and Sports Programming surcharges as "bogus" and "hidden," since they subtract a portion of the standard monthly charges from the "services" section of the bill.
I was quoted 120$ for internet, and cable. Then I was billed $145, and every so often they try raising the rate. Its a scam, but there is no cable internet oversight! So while our internet is 50x as slow as other countries and 8x as expensive, we have no legal recourse to defend ourselves.
It is the ESPN tax. ESPN takes your money, and pays hundreds of millions in rights fees for sporting events. That is why the average NBA salary is $5.1 million a year. Oh, plus the taxpayers are on the hook for building the stadiums.
I'll be sad when I can't use this ridiculous meme anymore.
can fix this.
In America, in 2016? Say it isn't so!
Cancel service. That's what I did years ago. I don't watch TV. I only watch what I am interested in. No more "shove that crap down their thoughts and they'll pay LOTS for it" programming.
Professional sports has gone from some reasonable charge to "holy cow you want HOW MUCH to watch?" Turn them off too.
Internet gets too expensive? Investigate alternatives such as Zip, ViVent, and other terrestrial microwave ISPs.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
For the most part, the FCC has been tough on the tel-cos; why haven't they addressed this obvious act of fraud? Or, does this come under the purview of the much weaker FTC?
I call Canada a lot but my number stops at Colorado and the Canadian recipient never sees my number on her bill. It's always the Colorado number where the last hop occurs. The international time caused a huge bill for me, but I can prove I never actually connected with the Canadian number because she's letting me use her bill as evidence. Verizon is such a scummy company.
I'm sure in 5 years time they'll come to an out-of-court settlement with no admission of liability with the FCC to pay back 10% of the money made with this scheme, pocketing the rest as profit. And if you're lucky, you'll get a $10 voucher off your next cable bill as settlement for the class action. Fucking love the way business works in America, right?
They are an Internet recovery of something fee, and so far this year doubled it from $1.99 to$3.99/month.
With if asked about it, they offered me $50/month off everything, if I committed to two years.
I felt dirty even though I said no, not ready to extend the relationship.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Fuck that shit, I'm going back to blaming the worst jackbooted thug to ever get elected president.
And a drunk to boot. Lee was robbed.
Consumerist stories about Comcast. One of the stories: Comcast: 2014 worst company in America.
The U.S. government is very weak at helping citizens, in my opinion.
and my bill was nearly a $100! They claimed to not know all of the state, city, and local taxes at the time they quoted me a price, but their billing system certain knows the price since they have to charge it to customers like they did me in their first bill. Also, I'm paying for ESPN, but I don't get it. I bought cable just to get college football, and I still can't watch games on ESPN. Charter is just a disaster.
I live in Lincoln, NE, a market that was served by TWC. One of the most frustrating fees is the surcharge for local TV stations. We used to get the Lincoln and Omaha TV stations, but slowly the Omaha stations have been dropped from the channel lineup or relegated to SD only. We have fewer local stations than a few years ago, but the fees for those have increased. The Omaha stations generally are of a higher quality than those from the Lincoln, which isn't surprising due to the Omaha market being larger. I'd rather watch the news from the Omaha stations than from the Lincoln stations. I'd understand if the local TV stations wanted higher rates and they necessitated price increases. However, it's not reasonable that the fees have gone up while stations have been dropped. Charter also promised to do away with surcharges when they acquired TWC, but I still see those on my bill.
Grant was a great general. A bad president (who meant well), but a great general that gets vastly underrated.
Why do I say that? Because he knew what his army's strengths were, and he forced his opponent to fight on his terms - and he won, at that. People talk about how great Lee was, but there are countless examples of where he let himself be maneuvered into bad fights where his opponent had the advantage (like Gettysburg). I'd argue that part of Lee's brilliance was in no small part due to his facing off against McClellan for the first half of the war, and McClellan's own massive failings.
Now go after my cell phone company. I've had a bullshit "Regulatory Compliance Fee" that wasn't disclosed in their adverts for years. By the time I knew it was there I was knee deep in the contract. What pisses me off the most is the number of people I know who think this crap is taxes and go to the polls demanding a tax break for these poor over taxed companies. Laughing all the way to the bank, they are...
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If by a great general, you mean a monster who committed crimes against humanity by destroying civilians food and shelter causing untold pain and death of women and children, then yes, he was a great general. This was practice for his genocide against Native Americans after the war.
I subscribe to SlingTV so I can watch college football. Orange package ($20 mo.), Blue package ($20 mo.), and Sports package ($5 mo.) totaling $45. I could probably get by with the Orange and Sports. Sports gets you ESPN{,2,3,U} and SEC Network. You can watch from a desktop or any tablet or phone. You can watch stations in the Blue package on three devices at the same time.
You can also watch games at ESPN Watch. When you sign in, SlingTV is in the dropdown box.
or lots of D&D? Ever shoot guns or join a pipe club? TV Sports are Social Circles. It's a reason to get together with people TV as a whole is great for socializing. Water Cooler talk and the like. It's a shared experience. When I couldn't afford cable and my kid had to go without she stuck out like a square peg in a round hole because she couldn't watch the 8 o'clock shows (too late for her to go over to a friends house; and hard to make friends without that ice breaker anyway).
These shared social experiences are what let Games Workshop charge $20 bucks for a little plastic toy soldier and they let DTV & Charter charge $100/bucks/mo for a sports package.
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I literally never occurred to me that those "fees" on my bill weren't some kind of federally mandated tax. I hope they get sued into bankruptcy.
> It's a reason to get together with people TV as a whole is great for socializing.
It is, so I go socialize when I watch the game, rather than hiding out in my house. I go to the Denver Broncos bar here in Dallas, and cheer with the other Broncos fans.
Also, I hear the Corvette club is a fun way to socialize. That doesn't make a Corvette a necessity.
I hope the Charter customer sues the pants off them and wins. I have complained to TWC about the broadcast and sports fees and deceptive pricing for several months.
Cell phone companies do the same thing but they call them "administrative fees". They are not required by the govt, and not an optional fee from the provider, so they should be included in the advertised base price or not charged at all.
Don't forget Jackson. Jackson was pretty much the heart and soul of the Army of Northern Virginia and his mere presence of the battlefield could literally turn the tide of battles. He and Longstreet were the 2 best corps commanders in the Confederate Army if not the whole American continent. And to be fair to Lee, he did not expect to fight at Gettysburg. He put too much reliance on JEB Stuart for reconnaissance and if Ewell had pushed the attack as ordered (it was a vague order but still an order) they quite possibly would have taken Cemetery Hill on the first day, completely changing the circumstances of the battle.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Oh yeah, the Union never did anything like that....*cough* Sherman*cough*. Sorry, allergies
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Song is not asking for his money back. Why? Because cable companies (and others) normally insert an aribitration clause into their agreements to cover such situations, which would require Song to submit his dispute to arbitration (which would cost much more than the amount that could be recovered). Instead, Song is asking for injunctive relief - basically asking that Charter not charge him in the future. Why would he do so? Let's read a bit more of the agreement:
"Only claims for money damages may be submitted to arbitration; claims for INJUNCTIVE ORDERS or similar relief MUST be brought in a COURT ..."
Charter basically demands that Song hale it into court. Nice job, Charter lawyers.
If you want to consider the worst jackbooted thug ever to be elected President, you'll have to go back further to slave owner Andrew "Trail of Tears" Jackson.
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Why not watch OTA broadcast digital television (DTV)? However, if you watch too much of it, you might end up here: https://www.dshs.wa.gov/bha/division-state-hospitals/western-state-hospital
Don't ask me how I know.
They are MASTERS of the hidden fee and deceptive advertising about low fares!
Bong, you still pay for TV Service, WTF BONG!
you're a little confused. Both Grant and Sherman have been Union Generals...
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Sirius/XM should be investigated also. Their fees are over the top.
Nice things...
Corporate greed and fraud, lawmakers corruption, and business shenanigans ( with a foreign accent ).
It is time to classify the internet as a utility. Like power and water, or the old phone system.
Maybe make the wireless cellphone business a utility also.
Seriously, I don't like too much regulation, but the level of skimmng/tacking and greed here is astounding to the pont
of makng me a vocal advocate of the public utility solution.
It's called canceling your account due to opaque fees in excess of the quoted price and never subscribing again
I had Verizon trying to tell me that their quoted rate of $49.99 (after heavy haggling) was being increased to $60 because of fees and whatnot. All fine and good, but $5 of that was equipment fees. I had purchased my own FIOS router, and returned all set top boxes, so what were the fees? Well, Verizon informed me they were mandatory, and regardless of what the FCC said Verizon had their own policies.
2 months and 1 FCC complaint later, I got an apologetic letter from Verizon informing me that I was correct and they would lower their price.
As a child you assume that the laws we have in place means that the problem is solved. As an adult you find out that you have to be vigilant and not afraid to stand up for your rights, because people will take advantage either through greed, malice, or simple ignorance. I dont assume the Verizon reps knew the law, just what they were told by their supervisors, but if I had not taken the initiative on my own I would be paying an extra $60 a year for my ignorance.
All this to say-- glad this is being pressed, because the only way you get the phone reps to accord with the law is to put the fear of civil suits into the heart of their management.
Require that each and every "government charge" be justified by a CFR cite (or equivilent State/Local law cite)
if a charge can not be cited then it must be included in the per month charges
oh btw whenever possible Customer Owned equipment should be allowed (and any related rental charges dropped)