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Commercial-Mining Drones Keep Getting Attacked By Eagles (abc.net.au)

An anonymous reader summarizes an article from ABC News: The world's seventh-biggest gold producer has lost more than nine drones because of eagle attacks. "People couldn't believe I was able to get such a good photo of an eagle airborne," complained surveyor Rick Steven at a conference sponsored by the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy. "But I didn't... Another eagle took that photo... I was getting attacked by two eagles simultaneously." The specially-constructed drones carry a $10,000 camera for high-resolution photos and equipment that produces high-detail contour maps of potential mining areas, and so far the company estimates they've lost more than $100,000 worth of technology to eagle attacks. They've tried camouflage -- including disguising the drones as another eagle -- but unfortunately, according to Stevens, the eagle is the "natural enemy" of the drone.
One drone's video is interrupted by the sudden appearance of an eagle, followed almost immediately by footage from the ground by a sideways drone camera. That video -- included in the article -- ends with a reminder that "Eagle attacks on drones have been documented across the world, to the point where some European police forces are now training them to take down unauthorized aircraft."

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  1. What about the eagles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm only worried about them and don't give a shit about the drones. Can they get hurt by the attacks?

    1. Re:What about the eagles? by alphatel · · Score: 2

      Let's be thankful that the eagles are protected, or they'd be mounting air powered rifles on the drones to take them out. No hesitation or misgivings about it whatsoever either.

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    2. Re:What about the eagles? by Jimbookis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A friend used to do hang gliding and would have wedge tail eagles either soar with him or attack him. He's had one eagle run it's claws along the leading edge of the glider to try tear it and get him out of the sky.

  2. Eyes by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 2

    Big eyes on the top like you put on a hat. Have to do the same thing with Mississippi Kites. If they can track motion, even better.

  3. Re:Zap by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, but sharpening the propeller blades will take care of the problem. Buy your props from Ginsu.

    I love drones, but do not fuck with the eagles. I love them better.

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  4. Already know the answer to this one by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

    Your mining drones just have to be protected. If you want to use scout drones, Hobgoblins are generally regarded as the best.

  5. Excellent by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No worries about getting in trouble using a gun against damn drones over your property, just take up falconry or have a sympathetic neighbor who does

  6. The eagles are right by Required+Snark · · Score: 5, Informative
    The eagles attack the drones because they are defending their territory. In this case the intruders are "commercial mining" interests. If the miners find anything they will inevitably destroy the local ecology and the eagles will suffer a great population loss or even be wiped out in the mining area. So the eagles are doing the right thing by making it harder for land exploitation businesses to destroy their homes.

    I'm on the side of the eagles on this one.

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    1. Re:The eagles are right by wbr1 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I call bullshit. The eagles are potentially defending territory, or confusing drones for prey items. They are probably also getting injured in these attacks.

      However, implying that the eagles are attacking due to the mining interests possible future actions is ludicrous. Also, mining is necessary to maintain the lifestyle yo enjoy. Otherwise go post on the internet with two sticks and some fur. I am all for protecting the eagles and the environment, but recognize our human needs too. And, I for one think flying a drone over prospect areas is much less intrusive than larger aircraft, and even less negative than slashing a road into a prospect area.

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    2. Re:The eagles are right by Required+Snark · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Wow, you have real anger issues. Calm down.

      No where did I imply that the eagles were consciously recognizing that their future as a species was endangered. I was pointing out that their natural instinct to defend their turf happened to impede intrusion from humans as well as their natural opponents, other birds.

      As for "human needs", given that this is Australia it's very likely that these are going to be huge mining operations that alter the landscape radically by moving cubic kilometers of rock. The easy picking are gone when it comes to minerals, so that is what happens in most of the world these days.

      After this kind of mining the landscape is so torn up that there is not much left for any form of life after the mines are closed. That includes humans. Just look at the mountain removal for coal in the US Appalachians. They leave a shattered toxic landscape where the locals are stuck with horrible pollution.

      Even without open pit or removing entire mountains there can be serious environmental consequences for more traditional mines. Take the toxic discharge from the Gold King Mine mine in Colorado. Abandoned since 1924, it had been filling with acidic water with high heavy metal concentrations. In 2015 it burst open during an attempt by the EPA to clean up the sight. Significant amounts of toxic water spread downstream into New Mexico affecting Navajo lands where people subsist of locally grown produce and sheep herding. They depend on the river water for their livelihood.

      So when you talk about human need, are you including or excluding the people who have to live where the mining happens? Do the Navajo count? Do the people of Appalachia count? What about the people in Oklahoma who are experiencing earthquakes for the first time in their lives? Remember that a lot of time when the word "need" is used, the real word is "greed".

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    3. Re:The eagles are right by lucm · · Score: 2

      The article you linked is terrifying.

      The purpose of this very high flight is unknown.

      They're up to something and we don't know what that is. Remember last time something like that happened? Pearl Harbor.

      I'm telling you, if the eagles disapprove of mining, we should stop mining. Before it's too late.

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    4. Re:The eagles are right by lucm · · Score: 2

      If they get lasers and team up with the sharks, we're doomed.

      Sharks, or orcas. Those have a score to settle with us, thanks to the people at SeaWorld who've been kidnapping them, separating them from their families, and holding them almost constantly in tiny dark pens that make isolation holding cells in Supermax look like luxury (at least prisoners can walk in circle).

      Mankind is like a crooked foreman in a sweatshop that's been using his position to extort bribes and sexual favors from helpless workers. Mistreated showbiz animals; lab test subjects; massacred whales and elephants; dogs forced to wear sweaters. There will be a reckoning, and the eagles are apparently the Spartacus of this uprising.

      You think your iPhones, Linuxes and Arduinos will protect you? No they won't. Repent, people, and stop bothering eagles with your drones, for the sake of humanity.

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  7. Respect the pecking order. Don't fly above them by NetFusion · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After flying RC planes/helicopters/quads for decades you learn that flying above a bird of prey is considered an aggressive dominating move and they will almost always counter to defend their territory and reestablish dominance. If you fly below them like the other smaller birds they consider you prey and rarely attack because you are not their familiar favorite meal.

  8. Re:Even the birds are pro USA! by lucm · · Score: 2

    they are good at killing the junk from china

    On the other hand, if someone told the Chinese that eagle feather is rare and difficult to obtain, the eagle would disappear quickly. See what a good job they're doing with the elephants - 50 years old elephants that weigh a ton or more get killed for 40 pounds of ivory that gets sold in Beijing; in 10 years elephants will be a thing of the past. If they could do that to eagles it would save those mining companies a lot of money. Win-win, except for the animals.

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  9. Re:Respect the pecking order. Don't fly above them by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Me it's RC boats. I live in a city so it's the cheapest, quickest way to get my RC nerdery done. Apparently, for a dog's visual cortex, this:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OdtfMNj...

    looks like the most delicious roast chicken a dog could ever want. As soon as I put the boat in the water, every dog around will jump into the water and desperately swim after the stupid thing. Now I warn dog owners before I put the boat in the water!

    One day a guy shows up with a Husky. He tells me not to worry, Huskies don't like the water. OK, fine. After he told me he never thought he'd see his dog chest-deep in the water! It was true however that this dog didn't go any further and didn't actually swim for it. But he also didn't expect to have to towel down his dog!

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  10. Ever since I was a kid... by sootman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... I've hated this retarded construction: "More than" + some weird number -- high, specific, not round.

    "The world's seventh-biggest gold producer has lost more than nine drones because of eagle attacks."

    So... ten drones, then?

    I just heard "over 46" somethings earlier tonight. That would be 47, I suppose?

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    1. Re:Ever since I was a kid... by Calydor · · Score: 2

      I completely agree, the last more than 17 times was the final straw.

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    2. Re:Ever since I was a kid... by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's an easy way of making an article still relevant given a lack of a timeline.

      Over 46 will still be over 46 tomorrow.
      47 may not be 47 tomorrow

  11. Re:Lab experiment by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

    I don't think it's a matter of the characteristics of the drone so much that it's intruding on it's territory. Birds can be quite territorial. I've seen smaller birds spend days attacking a "rival male" in its territory, banging into a window over and over (and over and over... I was getting close to pulling a shotgun on the little bastard).

    Honestly, I'm not really convinced there's much of anything to be done short of making a stealth drone so quiet and tiny that it won't be noticed (good luck with that, as there's a reason for the phrase "eagle-eyed"), or using a drone so large and intimidating it won't be attacked.

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  12. Re:revenge? by silentcoder · · Score: 2

    To be fair - these are gold prospectors, and very little mined gold goes into electronics (and less every year). Frankly if we limited gold use to actually doing stuff with it, we could supply ourselves for the next 5000 years or so with what we've already mined. Nearly all the gold they find will get dug out at great energy and cost, smelted down at great energy and cost... then after going to all that trouble to get it out of the ground... locked up in an underground vault and guarded at great energy and cost for ever.

    Gold mining is the single most uselessly fucking stupid thing humans do.

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