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The Internet Archive Is Building a Canadian Copy To Protect Itself From Trump (theverge.com)
The Internet Archive, a digital library nonprofit that preserves billions of webpages for the historical record, is building a backup archive in Canada after the election of Donald Trump. The Verge adds: Today, it began collecting donations for the Internet Archive of Canada, intended to create a copy of the archive outside the United States. "On November 9th in America, we woke up to a new administration promising radical change," writes founder Brewster Kahle. "It was a firm reminder that institutions like ours, built for the long-term, need to design for change. For us, it means keeping our cultural materials safe, private and perpetually accessible. It means preparing for a web that may face greater restrictions. It means serving patrons in a world in which government surveillance is not going away; indeed it looks like it will increase."
Obama's the one that let the NSA capture all the communications in the US.
If history has shown us anything, it's that both the left and the right will attempt to expunge information from archives...but the left does it on a bigger scale. Look a the Cultural Revolution under Mao, or the various programs under Lenin and Stalin. Heck, just look how the left in the US is rewriting history.
He's elected president. Not dictator. He doesn't have the power to "scrub the web." Asinine people sensationalizing paranoia.
Hillary never tweeted that flag burners should have their US citizenship revoked.
Hillary was bad in many ways. Trump is far worse in almost every single one of those ways, plus he has an extensive list of novel ways in which he is deplorable.
Stop with the false equivalencies.
I've decided to build a giant dome with battery powered artificial "sunlight" as I heard Trump is going to outlaw the sun. I've also added some support braces into my home's roof in case the sky does actually fall, and I've heard a credible rumor that he may in fact be a transgendered succubus.
Geez people get a grip. It's like half the population of the country is throwing a temper tantrum like a toddler who acts like the world is ending because they can't get the toy they want. Under a Trump presidency - some things will not go the way you want. That $15 minimum wage ain't happening and student loans for useless degrees aren't going to be forgiven. Overall though - things aren't going to change much.
Sit back, and relax. Maybe you'll like the way he handles the country, but probably not. Regardless, the country isn't going to fall apart.
"People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
I'll ignore all the political aspects of this discussion and simply point out that this is a rather expensive proposition. I don't see a recent size estimate, but we know that the site increased from 10PB to 15PB between 2012 and 2014, so it's reasonable to estimate that it's around 23PB today.
How expensive is 23PB of storage, including the serves themselves? If we use BackBlaze's cost estimates (they build custom high-density chassis) of $0.036/GB, we get a figure of roughly $868k USD spread across 49x4U servers. Of course, that's just the hardware. The colocation space (including power and connectivity) would be at least $10,000 CAD per month.
Don't worry, Trump has already promised to fix that.
No, not really. It's a complicated mess of tradition and convenience, but Canada could tell Queen Elizabeth to go blow and there would be no consequences. In the rare occasions where she acts on anything (and I mean rare), she has to follow a council of Canadians.
Saying the Queen technically rules Canada is like saying God technically rules the US. It's easy to disprove.
You are welcome on my lawn.
We do not have 1/4 the free speech laws as America. In fact right now we are looking at Bill C-16, which may class improper pronoun use as harassment. Making it entirely possibly that every time someone transitions, all archives of their past gender would need to be updated or erased. While I am not positive this one law is a serious threat to The Internet Archive operating in Canada, it shows how tenuous their situation would be if they operated in Canada.
This is as ridiculous as American citizens talking about moving to Canada. You already need id to vote here and we do not allow illegal immigrants to stay in the country. We are the exact thing all these people do not want America to become.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
isnt canada still technically ruled by the queen of england??
No Canada is technically ruled by the Queen of Canada. The title is held by the same person but it is entirely separate and equal to her title as the Queen of England. The Canadian and UK Parliaments are equal but separate: no law passed by the UK parliament affects Canada and no law passed by the Canadian parliament affects the UK. But please don't let these facts get in the way of a good rant...
The Internet Archive is one of the most important sources of information ever created. I think we should put a copy of it on every continent at the very least.
Yes, but its policy of retroactively blocking archived webpages due to the feelings of the domain's current owner is outrageous. Fat lot of good multiple copies will do when the Archive's own policies hamstring it.
It is simply a marketing tactic. Canada is not exactly an ideal spot to locate such a backup in any case given their hate speech legislation and tactic of slapping very heavy fines on people who might have offended one of an infinite number of gender pronoun protected groups.
Actually, it's not hate speech legislation. It's inciting hatred legislation. Our hate speech laws target recruitment of other people to incite harm to a group.You can threaten to harm someone, and that's a law unto itself (assault), but no matter how disgusting it is, unless you're trying to get others to join you, it's not hate speech.
You are free to be as racist as you want, and to shout it to the world. One person did, and while hate charges were considered, they did not apply. He was just charged with simple assault.
Likewise, you can discriminate against gays but as long as you're not telling others to harm them, you're fine.
That's the two key elements to the law - first, you have to incite others to join you, and second, you have to be threatening to harm. Just saying "I hate (gays|Jews|Chinese)" isn't hate speech, and even saying "I hate (gays|Jews|Chinese) and think they should be killed" isn't hate. But saying "I hate (gays|Jews|Chinese), and we should form a group to kill all of them" is hate speech because you're inviting others to harm.
Some people seem to have forgotten Eric Holder Shutting down Mega-upload and other websites. ;^)
Obama administration also gave away control to ICANN.
I'm sure nothing bad with happen