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Trump Appoints Third Net Neutrality Critic To FCC Advisory Team (dslreports.com)
Last week, President-elect Donald Trump appointed two new advisers to his transition team that will oversee his FCC and telecommunications policy agenda. Trump has added a third adviser today who, like the other two advisers, is a staunch opponent of net neutrality regulations. DSLReports adds: The incoming President chose Roslyn Layton, a visiting fellow at the broadband-industry-funded American Enterprise Institute, to help select the new FCC boss and guide the Trump administration on telecom policy. Layton joins Jeffrey Eisenach, a former Verizon consultant and vocal net neutrality critic, and Mark Jamison, a former Sprint lobbyist that has also fought tooth and nail against net neutrality; recently going so far as to argue he doesn't think telecom monopolies exist. Like Eisenach and Jamison, Layton has made a career out of fighting relentlessly against most of the FCC's more consumer-focused efforts, including net neutrality, consumer privacy rules, and increased competition in the residential broadband space. Back in October, Layton posted an article to the AEI blog proclaiming that the FCC's new privacy rules, which give consumers greater control over how their data is collected and sold, were somehow part of a "partisan endgame of corporate favoritism" that weren't necessary and only confused customers. Layton also has made it abundantly clear she supports zero rating, the practice of letting ISPs give their own (or high paying partners') content cap-exemption and therefore a competitive advantage in the market. She has similarly, again like Eisenach and Jamison, supported rolling back the FCC's classification of ISPs as common carriers under Title II, which would kill the existing net neutrality rules and greatly weaken the FCC's ability to protect consumers.
A conman, racist and misogynist walk into a bar.
Bartender says: "What will it be Mr. Trump"
In before freedom of everything dies!
With the sensational leftist tabloid boogeyman headlines and clickbait articles, this isn't the site for me anymore. You've jumped the shark /. kindly go fuckoff and join all the other extremist sites while I go search for tech news that matters.
What part of "Trump Appoints Third Net Neutrality Critic To FCC Advisory Team" is not completely factual? You may not like the facts but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be reported.
There's nothing sensational, leftist, or tabloidish about this story.
Net neutrality is a frequent topic of discussion on Slashdot. Anything that the President-elect does that could affect it is news for nerds and stuff that matters.
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
With the sensational leftist tabloid boogeyman headlines and clickbait articles, this isn't the site for me anymore. You've jumped the shark /. kindly go fuckoff and join all the other extremist sites while I go search for tech news that matters.
Your shrill little tirade would be worth discussing if you hadn't posted as an AC; but since you couldn't be bothered to log in first, or were so embarrassed that even pseudonymity wouldn't do, then good luck, and good riddance to you.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
Since he also appointed a ex-Goldman Sachs executive for the Treasury...
With the sensational leftist tabloid boogeyman headlines and clickbait articles, this isn't the site for me anymore. You've jumped the shark /. kindly go fuckoff and join all the other extremist sites while I go search for tech news that matters.
How is it sensational?
Donald Trump has appointed people who are in fact against network neutrality...
Those people have been on the payroll of big ISPs to specifically oppose net neutrality and their opinions are a matter of public record!
If you don't think net neutrality **matters** then you are badly misinformed and brainwashed by right-wing propaganda.
You can pretty much see the painting on the wall. Politics has all but ruined Slashdot. I've been here around 16 years, and I've never been more driven to quit entirely. The site and the community over the last year has degenerated from critical/debating to dogmatic/adhominem.
Bye!
Just because you're too stupid to realize your political favorite wasn't any different doesn't mean that Trump is any different.
Your team lost. Deal with it, and shut the fuck up about who Trump appoints because not a fucking thing matters without the approval of congress, and as the democrats were kind enough to show, you can have a super majority in congress, and your guy in the white house ... and you still can't get a one fucking useful thing done.
You guys actually like your guy/girl would have been so much better, all that means is that YOU personally are too stupid to realize they are both exactly the same.
Oh my bad, slashdot isn't news for nerds, its BaeuHD and the other 'editors' personal blog. Thought you guys were going to fix it ... you just made it another tabloid.
You'll care when the internet is completely bastardized and turned into another broadcast medium.
Well, that's not specific to Slashdot at least. What you described essentially sums up overall discourse in the US regarding anything even remotely related to politics.
Every other friggin article is about Trump this, Hillary that; this is like being in hell for us non-americans. Give it up already, I don't even know why I still come here.
"which would kill the existing net neutrality rules and greatly weaken the FCC's ability to protect consumers."
Cool, now ISP's can be sued for copyright violations through their pipes! The most likely outcome will be that EU three-strikes regulations will seem pretty generous after the lobbies get at the bill that fills this regulatory void. My presumed outcome is that ISP's will disable service if a subscriber is accused of being in violation of copyright. The threat of direct law suits are just too high to simply give nominal protection to their customers (a large number of whom actually violate copyright laws daily). Oh, but there's some form of arbitration which makes Youtube's take-down system seem fair and balanced.
Bye!
If you don't think net neutrality **matters** then you are badly misinformed and brainwashed by right-wing propaganda.
I'm not opposed to Net Neutrality but its importance has been hugely overblown. The pro-Net Neutrality actions by the FCC haven't made anyone's internet connection any better, faster or cheaper. And it hasn't resulted in me being able to do anything that I couldn't do before.
she supports zero rating, the practice of letting ISPs give their own (or high paying partners') content cap-exemption and therefore a competitive advantage in the market
So vote with your wallet and don't patronize those services who are given a competitive advantage via zero-rating.
... in the US
The articles here suck balls on a regular basis these days. Is there a Slashdot for the rest of the people who don't care about your shitty election problems?
I don't know whats wrong with Americans that they can't see you guys just pick your team and stick to it regardless. It's pathetic, the other candidate you had was a dirt bag too, give it a rest- it's done.
When the price of Amazon Prime and Netflix go through the roof while Hulu or some ISP video service get a big pricing and performance advantage, we will see how you feel.
As awful as Trump being president will be, I'm going to enjoy all the Trump supporters as it dawned on them just how much their little protest vote is going to fuck things up.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
As an AC, you're not coming here. You don't exist. Your word (and mine) are nonexistent. So feel free to leave, because you already said so 3 times in this thread. (At least you can't prove you didn't, and this is enough for me)
There's nothing sensational, leftist, or tabloidish about this story.
Net neutrality is a frequent topic of discussion on Slashdot. Anything that the President-elect does that could affect it is news for nerds and stuff that matters.
I dunno - it sure seems sensational, leftish, and tabloidish to me.
The left is carping on every slight aspect of everything Trump does, and in a negative tone.
Honestly, we don't know *what* will happen in the future, and even if the absolute worst case imaginable for this specific issue... nothing will change.
As far as I can tell, there's no legislation demanding net neutrality in the US. We have an FCC regulation that's been tied up in court for a year and a half, and meanwhile Comcast is free to degrade Netflix and demand an internet levy on Netflix as a customer.
I further note that Trump has a tendency to be concerned with voter needs as opposed to corporate needs, and wants to build up his brand by being the best president in the last 50 years, and the best of all time if possible. He also has shown a willingness to take actions in contradiction to advice(*).
We don't know what he'll do, but it can't be much worse than what was done under Bush, or under Obama. Which was basically "companies can do what they want, the US government can do what it wants, and screw the needs of the people".
Obama expanded internet surveillance, and spent trillions on unneeded military buildup while letting our own infrastructure decay. It's been that way for years, coming up on decades.
Is appointing a net-neutrality opponent really that sensational?
I suppose if you're a Democrat, it is.
We elected Trump for the actions he will take.
So far, he hasn't really done anything except prevent a bunch of jobs from leaving the US.
(*) Hillary chose to take out Qaddafi in contradiction to advice as well. The advice pointed out that it would lead to the formation of ISIS, but it was her decision to make.
One has to understand, for Trump supporters, facts don't matter.
Not his use of illegal foreign workers (which he stiffed on paying), not his doing business with an Iranian bank which funds terrorists, not his use of Chinese rather than American steel, not his doing business with Cuba while it was under sanctions, not his assaults on women, not the fact his casinos never turned a profit while he personally ran them, not that his casinos went bankrupt more than once, not the multiple failed businesses, not the 4,000 lawsuits he's been involved in, not his "foundation" from which he illegally paid his legal and personal bills, not to mention the same "foundation" illegally buying him things, not the fact his corrupt "foundation" was barred from soliciting donations in the entire state of New York, not that he called people in the military idiots and stupid, or defamed a military family whose son died defending this country, not that he dodged the draft while claiming possibly getting an STD from sleeping around was his personal Vietnam, or the litany of other facts about him.
Nope. None of those facts matter. They're nothing more than sensational lies from the "extremist" left.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Those people have been on the payroll of big ISPs to specifically oppose net neutrality and their opinions are a matter of public record!
Not Roslyn Layton who is the subject of the story. She was "a visiting fellow at the broadband-industry-funded American Enterprise Institute". Which is far from "being on the payroll". After all, the US government is also funded by the broadband industry via taxes. Is President Obama thus on the payroll too?
The story is packed full of innuendo.
And make them respect the people who haven't entrapped themselves in problems unspoken with their customers.
It seems quite easy. If Verizon employs Jim who is mad at customer Frank for fucking his wife then have verizon account and publish that to all other verizon customers so they are not affected by it. Don't allow them to team up and rip of people who don't care about problems people choose to ignore.
It is real simple, sadly if they can't talk about it they end up physically fighting one another. They are truly idiots.
Business should be about only the product and not hidden reasons, otherwise you see how crazy it gets. I think any sane person would help the right ones.
The truth, anything as big as ATT or Verizon cannot be right.
If you don't like stories about American issues spend time on forums in your own country. It's not our fault no-one uses them, it's yours.
The problem with voting with your wallet is if your wallet is fatter your vote counts more.
If someone is disadvantaged and can only afford the netflix/facebook tier of internet then you won't hear or see their complaints because
they'll get LESS internet than the rest of us.
I know zero-rating hasn't reached that point yet but consider the fact that the price of data has gone up over the years instead of down as it naturally should.
https://techcrunch.com/2011/07/29/your-isp-is-screwing-you-as-your-service-costs-go-up-their-backbone-costs-go-down/
It's only logical to extrapolate this eventuality.
i've been here around 16 years, and I've never been more driven to quit entirely.
Well, we've had equally contentious political climates in the past. Like, about 16 years ago. . .
You forget, reality has a tilt to the left, at least if you go buy idiots like the grandparent.
Trump is anti net-neutrality, this should NOT be a surprise to his supporters.
Has Trump made any appointments that could even be perceived as being for the good of the general public? Virtually all the ones I've heard of sound like the most obvious form of industry/'conservative" shills possible.
Reality is viewed through MSM, though, which has a tilt to the left.
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
You forgot to mention the Trump University that
was also the subject of two class action lawsuits in federal court. The lawsuits centered around allegations that Trump University defrauded its students by using misleading marketing practices and engaging in aggressive sales tactics. Trump settled all three lawsuits in November 2016, after being elected to the presidency; he agreed to pay a total of $25 million.
No, Trump supporters don't give a crap about the fact that their messiah is a Bullshitter in Chief. Maybe they are just stupid. Really, really stupid people.
What and use MuchbetterCO? Their service is laggy and the picture quality is awful when it does load I think they need better servers on their end because I pay $5,000/mo for a 50,000Mbps connection (no not really this is an example chill) so it's not on my end and my ISP BestISP says everything is fine (MuchbetterCO hasn't paid BestISP extortion for fair access to their customers and customers unable to see BestISP's interferance blame MuchbetterCO)
That's sounds familiar..... oh yeah that's exactly what Comcast did to Netflix.
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Seriously - I want to hear from an avid trump supporter on how this - as well as his other cabinet appointments is draining the swamp (of special interest lobbyists).
But Slashdot makes money from more eyeballs on the ads, it's in their best interest to post a wider array of articles. If you cared about Slashdot, you'd be more worried about the focus on one small topic of little interest to many.
Nobody understands what this is about. Trump wants the media on their side. Destrying net neutrality comes at a steep price for consumers and citizens, but is very needed by Trump to secure an 8 year legacy.
I won't bother finding the youtube link for you, but go watch the Kahn family on the DNC nomination stage. You are just as guilty of Trumpesque distortion when you imply that Trump's behavior was not partially justified as defensive political reaction. If the Kahn family didn't *want* to provoke a very public response from a presidential candidate, they could have chosen a much less gauntlet-level initiation of their free speech. Trump is horrible. No doubt about that. But the way he wins is to be provocative and get poorly thought out overinflammatory responses from his political opponents to his provocations. What you did there was playing right into his game.
Can't say i'm unhappy about the upcoming shitcanning of Net Neutrality and the corrosive effect it will have on certain companies, however.
The pendulum is swinging hard...you might consider altering your stock portfolio in light of these facts.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Maybe they are just stupid. Really, really stupid people.
Sounds like a University education might help them?
Howard Stern has been in radio for over 3 decades, has dealt with the FCC a lot, never held government position, and is considered to have some common sense. So Howard Stern for FCC board.
There's no maybe about it.
GFY. This is my country. I've been coming here since the 90s, and jesus, but the quality of the commenters sucks now.
The 4chan trolls and rampant Trumpkin morons here mean I check in maybe once a month and don't even bother to log in anymore.
Oh well.
Seriously - I want to hear from an avid trump supporter on how this - as well as his other cabinet appointments is draining the swamp (of special interest lobbyists).
Firstly, this isn't a cabinet appointment.
As to draining the swamp, he's already done this.
Thirdly, he's not in office yet, wait to see what he actually does.
And finally, you always have to ask "compared to what?"
The Democrats have no vision or leadership on this issue, or any other.
Calling Trump bad on his choices is all they have.
I'm generally a Trump supporter, but not a supporter of every position. This is something I totally disagree with him on. People are going to have to get on him about this. He has proven he'll listen on things before. That's actually one of his better qualities, and it's not one I can attribute to our current President or his predecessor.
But he may not listen. Or he may delegate this and not get involved.
There are times, just a few times, that I wish these crony capitalist anti net neutrality types would get everything they want. The copyright maximalists too. Because what they want will stifle innovation and make the net not worth using and their products not worth buying, so people will stop just like they're stopping watching sucky cable tv. Sometimes when people want to shoot themselves in the foot you just have to let them.
Unfortunately that's a gamble that might not work, so we're back to fighting these corporate cretins at every opportunity.
Also, right or wrong, with Trump as President and the Republicans in charge of Congress, they'll either make peoples' lives better or they won't and there's nobody to blame or to hold accountable at the next election but them. Remember, the whole House is up for election in 2 years, and a third of the Senate. Vote. If they make things better, put them back. If they don't, kick them the hell out.
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It will be interesting to see if Drumpf supporters will blame Drumpf when they suddenly have to pay their ISP extra in order to reasonably stream Netflix videos, and more again to watch youtube videos, and more again to listen to spotify...
Somehow I doubt it... they'll just blame the greedy corporations for doing what capitalist corporations do without recognizing the hypocrisy of loudly complaining about capitalists while staunchly supporting capitalism.
"Grab them by the pussy" -- President of the United States of America
If you didn't vote Hilary you have yourself to blame, I hope whatever satisfaction you get (or whatever economic gains) from a Trump presidency outweigh the value of net neutrality to you.
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Our Telcos try to pull this shit because we let them.
What argument can be made for allowing telcos to treat the traffic differently and dole out monopolies based on that? Is there a twist on this that makes it sound less than fucked up?
What can I do to start dismantling the system? Are there groups of people that spend their free time coming up with solutions to make the telcos irrelevant?
If you don't think net neutrality **matters** then you are badly misinformed and brainwashed by right-wing propaganda.
If you think the "Net Neutrality(TM)" regulations in question, cooked up by a bunch of K Street lobbyists, bankers, megacorps, and PACs, bear even a passing resemblance to what people here understand as actual network-level "net neutrality", then you, Sir, are both naive and a fool.
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
How exactly does logging in make any difference? I mean except to self righteous elitist douchebags like you.
It's doing nothing to stop AT&T from using its network from zero balance it's streaming service and no open access to other streamers. Etc etc
Net Neutrality has nothing to do with deregulation and more about net oversight. Beware of the bogus label...
OP here, knowing the usual subjects would try and known be down a peg or two for throwing in the towel in trying to enjoy a tech site for nerds when it's nothing but a flood of butthurt liberal editors smearing our president every chance they get with propaganda I decided it deserves one final message.
You haven't said what you think this so called "propaganda" is -- the headline and summary are factual and don't even say that opposition to net neutrality is "bad", they just pointed out that the weakening of net neutrality policies is consumer un-friendly and will be a boost to large ISP's. That's hardly a controversial opinion and many conservatives think it's a good thing. This same article could be posted on a conservative news site and it would be applauded as a step in the right direction.
If you take offense at your own political party's policies, then maybe you're supporting the wrong party?
Kill net neutrality. Kill it with fire. One cannot simultaneously love net neutrality and freedom; they are basically incompatible. Keep your fucking government out of my Internet.
Might help them be indoctrinated by the extreme left, nope, Trump supports don't like universities at all.
He could be found in bed with a dead girl, a live boy and a Mexican Muslim and his supporters would find a way to say he was a genius for doing it.
Thats the most American thing ive ever heard a Liberal say! Congratulations!
I'm generally a Trump supporter, ...Also, right or wrong, with Trump as President and the Republicans in charge of Congress, they'll either make peoples' lives better or they won't and there's nobody to blame or to hold accountable at the next election but them.
I believe this is why you've heard so little pushback from the Dems. They're playing a game of "so you want more rope?" That's what politics has devolved to.
Remember, the whole House is up for election in 2 years, and a third of the Senate. Vote. If they make things better, put them back. If they don't, kick them the hell out.
I'd really like for at least 2 new parties to show up in 2 years. I'll vote for all of them instead of the current batch of incompetent narcissistic power mongers.
In your best inbred, redneck accent ..
If YOO don't lahk it, yoo can GIT OUT
This article would never have appeared:
Obama Taps a 5th Lawyer From the RIAA
Seems pretty balanced to me.
Nope. A proud middle-aged white George Will conservative. Thank you very much.
But, hey, thanks for reveling to us your method in identifying a person's political theory.
Kind of shallow, if you ask me.
I won't return the favor and speculate who you voted for...
With the sensational leftist tabloid boogeyman headlines and clickbait articles, this isn't the site for me anymore. You've jumped the shark /. kindly go fuckoff and join all the other extremist sites while I go search for tech news that matters.
Breitbart - whether you agree w/ it or not - is at least something that was created for political news, and dedicated to a particular POV - specifically, a right wing POV. Slashdot, OTOH, was originally a tech centric site - online, and more FOSS leaning than, say, BYTE used to be when it was around. It's gone from that to heavy clickbait articles on things like climate, politics, Uber, et al, instead of remaining dedicated to tech centric issues
The US gives the internet back to your local provider in full.
Shaping, slowness, data caps, offers of pay for speed become the norm on many local ISP contracts.
A user in an inner city area then has the option of one or two slow or really expensive ISP plans.
If the users wants media from a server on the other side of the USA or in a fly over state they will have to pay for an extra fast account per month.
Internet brands that have formed monopolies, duopolies or non compete cartels will get exposed as more and more users seek better results.
Gated communities, smaller cities will just build their own local networks and connect to really great regional providers who offer real national peering and don't slow or shape.
Word of their efforts, real speed and local skill will spread.
People will have to build their own fast city networks with total ISP freedom or keep paying for ISP monopolies for speed.
If the US wants a free and fair internet it has a few options:
Pay existing providers for their fast plans and hope they spend on network upgrades this time for real and not just pocket the new payments.
Nationalize the networks per city, town, state and allow any and all providers to be a virtual ISP anywhere in the USA.
Allow any brand to get into the pole and duct side if they build an open, fast network and let all other providers on.
Pay up and hope it will be different this time or build a real network.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Oh my bad, slashdot isn't news for nerds, its BaeuHD and the other 'editors' personal blog. Thought you guys were going to fix it ... you just made it another tabloid.
So if you don't like /., why the fuck are you still here reading it!?
How can he appoint anyone to the FCC since the terms for the FCC positions still have another year before they can be appointed by the president
FTFY. Iran hasn't attacked another country since the War of 1812, and the people it funds are resisting the terrorism of the United States and it's Gulf Coast allies.
This is true of all political-candidate supporters, regardless of where they are on the spectrum. Everyone filters through rose-colored glasses. Even you.
Doesn't actually have to be about politics at all to get people riles.
You can say just about anything and it will end up being trolled by political zealots.
It is the new reality... let us hope that eventually it falls off just like it rose up.
The Truth. Seems it always comes from somebody on the outside looking in. Thank You! If you're this divided on laws and politicians, Why are we still a union?
Or maybe they had nothing too lose and voting for trump was more of a f u to the rest of the nation http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/5-reasons-why-trump-will-_b_11156794.html?
"Your team lost. Deal with it, and shut the fuck up about who Trump appoints...."
Huh? That makes zero sense.
Any citizen or non citizen can comment on anything about what Trump does or doesn't do.....
Right now he is lining up appointments.... people will say stuff about that.
Get used to it. We will have 4-8 years of heavy heavy commentary on everything Trump does... just like their was for Obama and Bush before him and Clinton before him... .... ...
Each an every day there will be hundreds of news pieces on Trump and his future administration. There will be millions of comments about those stories
Prepare your brain for the endless commentary.
It's late at night and I've got insomnia. This is the OP of this thread and you're accusing some AC of being ME who's said they're leaving 3 times now. That just proves how out of touch and incorrect you are. Other people are stepping up and saying they're leaving too. Good for them. It's the same thing Trump told the delusional media and DNC about how the silent majority was listening to HIM and not THEM. Here on /, the silent majority is not so silent anymore compared to the registered liberals who protect each other with mod points like they're a corrupt union. Does it feel good to look back upon this thread and know I motivated so many individuals to not only speak up but challenge the /. establishment? Yes. Since this is my second post after announcing I'm done with this site, consider me 200% done. /meme
Well, the Left and the Democrats have only themselves to blame. We all know this, right? Voting for Trump was the last, desperate move of ordinary Americans whose backs were up against the wall. Hillary promised open borders, Trans-Pacific Partnership, more free trade, more H1Bs, more exporting of jobs, and everything the heartless globalist political class wanted. They were going to stick it to America and they were going to make it HURT. On November 8th Americans' vision of America was going to die, Painfully.
And why shouldn't they vote for Trump, anyway? Hillary was already a 93%, 98% favorite. At this point, what difference does it make? Go down in flames, with a protest vote. And then he won, go figure.
If you want to know how we ended up like this, please watch this video: "President Trump: How & Why...". It is a must-view for people exactly like you for how the level of political discourse got so low. It's by a leftist, so you know he's telling the truth and has been fact-checked. It's really sad what he's saying and it is all 100% true. Never forget this: Trump is all your fault. If you had just been understanding and wanted to do what was right for Americans, this would never have happened. It's going to be a long eight years and hopefully during that time you will discover compassion for your countrymen, but I doubt it.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
European here.
>you're supporting the wrong party?
your parties are both wrong.
Well, looks like Trump voters are about to get what they voted for. Unfortunately the rest of us too.
As awful as Trump being president will be, I'm going to enjoy all the Trump supporters as it dawned on them just how much their little protest vote is going to fuck things up.
I think you're going to be disappointed. Even after being in charge of 4 branches of government, I bet the excuse for when anything goes wrong will be "but Hillary".
SJW n. One who posts facts.
When you do everything they want, they don't need as many lobbyists.
You drain the swamp by giving a red carpet to the muck.
With the sensational leftist tabloid boogeyman headlines and clickbait articles, this isn't the site for me anymore. You've jumped the shark /. kindly go fuckoff and join all the other extremist sites while I go search for tech news that matters.
What part of "Trump Appoints Third Net Neutrality Critic To FCC Advisory Team" is not completely factual? You may not like the facts but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be reported.
Its interesting, in a previous article about Il Don being banned from Twitter, Pepe' is all frothing at the mouth about banning his free speech. Yet we come with a story about their guy appointing an opponent of net neutrality, and we get Pepe' in shitfit rage about "sensational leftist tabloid" bullshit.
It is a bit worrisome when a subject such as net neutrality, which at one time would have been important because net neutrality is or should be important to "nerds", is subject to this level of attack. Is this a website for nerds, or just migrating to Yahoo and YouTube comments status. Or will be become Facebook for nerds.
I find myself increasingly visiting technical only sites, I fear Slashdot is starting to suffer brain drain.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
No, Trump supporters don't give a crap about the fact that their messiah is a Bullshitter in Chief. Maybe they are just stupid. Really, really stupid people.
What they are is angry people. He has managed to tap into anger that has been cultivated over the past 20 some years.
And anger is seldom concerned with facts. It only knows it is angry.
It also tends to stay angry, and is very difficult to control, usually requiring a ramping up of that anger, because the angry will turn on others in an instant.
Hell, after winning possibly the biggest upset in history, when what would otherwise be a time of celebration, its pretty evident that the anger of his supporters hasn't subsided a bit. The people who have lost are angry, yet orders of magnitude less angry than the winners.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Starting to suffer ?!? Sit down. I have something to tell you and it's going to make you sad.
Burn the land and boil the sea........
Well, the Left and the Democrats have only themselves to blame.
But you are happy now correct? I mean you won, and will get to implement policies and laws that will repair the damage that the embedded enemies of our country have done to our country.
America stands on the cusp of greatness again, and we must not allow anything to stand in the way of that return to greatness.
Meanwhile you're invited to my popcorn party. Tequila and Jaeger on tap.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
hell, for trump supporters even Trumps own words do not matter.
Multiple sources, including an opinion piece (on CNN!!! the normalizing fools!) actually state "stop taking Trump literally", "stop believing everything he says".... and this is from people who supported him on the basis that "he tells it like it is" !!!
WTF is wrong with these idiots?!
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
There's nothing sensational, leftist, or tabloidish about this story.
Net neutrality is a frequent topic of discussion on Slashdot. Anything that the President-elect does that could affect it is news for nerds and stuff that matters.
What is interesting is that the anger in some folks was stoked to such a level that they now oppose net neutrality, based on the next occupant's appointments. I have to imagine that once upon a time, opposition to net neutrality would have approached 100 percent in here.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Hillary promised none of those things, you are once again spouting BS.
and like trump supporters, you also exhibit the ability to ignore that things are in the best shape they have been in decades, say "everything is s---", and vote for the guy who will actually turn it to s---.
and don't talk about compassion.
trumpers have no room, none, to speak about "learning compassion".
that is such bs.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Spoken like a true liberal. Don't get your way so you shit on everyone.
Or maybe they had nothing too lose and voting for trump was more of a f u to the rest of the nation http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...?
Nothing to lose? How about their Medicare? If Obamacare is repealed, the Medicare expansion dies and all those red states populated with lots of new Medicare patients are fucked. See Kentucky, for example.
You can pretty much see the painting on the wall. Politics has all but ruined Slashdot. I've been here around 16 years, and I've never been more driven to quit entirely. The site and the community over the last year has degenerated from critical/debating to dogmatic/adhominem.
Slashdot is at a point where netnews was 10 or so years ago. There were some groups that I frequented for electronics and amateur radio. But the kooks were taking over. Some folks from West Virginia who were suffering from severe psycho-sexual issues were carrying on the equivalent of a bar room brawl. Then there was the guy who was opening a shitload of mail accounts in order to get around our blocking him. And none of these posts had a thing to do with the topic. Eventually, after finding perhaps one post out of several hundred that was worth reading, and looking at my blocklist, I came to the conclusion that there was no point in being there. Meanwhile every other legitimate poster was also vacating the premises, leaving the place to the rabble who destroyed it.
Interestingly, after wrecking the place, the nuts left as well. Seems part of the fun was pissing off the rest of us. Leaving behind a graveyard to today.
This is where Slashdot finds itself today. A place where in order to get any on-topic or intelligent conversation, I have to read with the filters set pretty high. Which as it turns out, hides most of the posts in any story.
Slashdot is on the cusp of going the way of netnews.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Starting to suffer ?!? Sit down. I have something to tell you and it's going to make you sad.
Well yeah - it doesn't really suffer from that until I leave......... 8^)
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
No, reality is things like:
- evolution and global warming actually exist
- the country is actually in the best shape it's been in decades
- equality of civil rights is not special rights
- Obama not only didn't wage a war on fossil fuels, but oversaw the largest increase in production basically ever, such that the US is actually now the world's largest producer, and is reaping record profits
- Obama simultaneously oversaw the explosion of the "green revolution" and its industry, creating another explosion of entrepreneurs and jobs in a developing industry
- Obama actually delivered on all the economic promises of his defeated opponents (and then some), oversaw the longest streak of consecutive economic and job growth, and the largest rise in wages in decades
- Obama improved America's standing in the world following the disastrous years of Bush the Lesser, and that we have assisted or taken the lead in several international agreements (Paris climate agreement, TPP (for good or ill), Iran Nuclear deal, etc) leading to an improvement in international relations
Each of which are things whose existence is only denied by American conservatives.
- they, as a party platform, question or outright deny the existence of basic scientific facts
- they say the country is falling apart
- they think granting LGBT the right to marry, or buy goods and services, just llike everyone else is "special" rights, somehow
- they think Obama tried, and has, killed the fossil fuel industry
- they think the green revolution is sham that wasted taxpayer dollars
- they, contrary to all evidence otherwise, maintain that unemployment now...RIGHT NOW...is higher than it was in the great depression
- they think the country is a laughing stock right now, because of Obama, and that no one respects us....that somehow the years of Bush the Lesser were a high point in out international relations
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Honestly it was a poor drunk attempt at finding humor in the trash stories that have been running across slashdot lately.
jesus how ignorant are you?
yes, the appointee needs the approval of congress....a congress controlled by the party that opposes net neutrality
no, the democrats didn't have a supermajority in the congress. if they had, the republicans wouldn't have been able to block them at every turn. that's the point of a super majority
no, they aren't the exact same:
-Hillary didn't mock a disabled person on national television
-Hillary didn't describe and brag about sexual assault
-Hillary didn't claim that paying employees for work done was a sacrifice equivalent to a father's loss of a son to combat
-Hillary didn't exhibit both explicit and coded racism on the complain trail on multiple occasions
-Hillary didn't silence dissent at rallies and suggest that "maybe they deserved to be roughed up a bit", or later excuse supporters who committed violent assault against someone based on race
-Hillary didn't have multiple and ongoing legal battles in the campaign involving fraud or sexual assault, or multiple past lawsuits involving discriminatory housing practices
how long does this list need to be before you realize that you're full of cr-- ?
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
*angry selfish people
Most of the harm from ISP misbehavior is the manifestation of one of two perverse-incentive situations:
- integration of an ISP into a content-provider megacorp, leading to penalization of competitors or other perceived threats to the larger content-providing component.
- an under-competitive market situation (monopoly, duopoly, other under-four-competitors) situation, allowing ISPs to provide less than they promised or less than what is expected of "internet service" without a "vote with their feet" option for customers.
Both of these are not internet-technology issues and both are things the FCC handles poorly, and which are outside its mandate. They're better handled by such agencies as the FTC and DOJ, under antitrust and consumer fraud models, than by the FCC.
With respect to the content-provider/ISP vertical integration issue: Trump has already come out opposing the ATT/ Time-Warner merger. Additionally, the mainstream media's pile-on against his campaign has left him with no love for the "content providers". I'd be willing to bet that he'd be all for antitrust action to split up the other ISP ("content transport") / news reporting ("content generation") partnerships under the rubric of "breaking up anticompetitive vertical integration". B-)
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
YOU personally are too stupid to realize they are both exactly the same.
Nope. None of the candidates on either side were exactly the same as Trump.
As a resident of West Virginia I find this...completely accurate. Even for those of us physically in the state that just wanted to be left alone it was damn near impossible to get away from the constant screaming.
For me the arguments in comments are the entertaining part of /. anymore. Gives me something to distract myself with while I'm at work.
This is because Trump supporters aren't really Trump supporters. He got less votes than McCain and Romney. He's actually very unpopular, but lucky for him there's a large swath of people that turn out and vote republican in every election no matter what. Add to that: Clinton not exactly inspiring turn out, which is predicted to be the lowest since 2000 (see any parallels with that election?). The democrat's win or lose based on turn out, so the real education from this election is that democrats can't expect turn out based on negatives from the opposing candidate. It should have been Bernie.
Delusional fuck-wits that have no idea how bad things can get.
Slashdot has been shit since around the time CmdrTaco left.
Cool, now ISP's can be sued for copyright violations through their pipes! The most likely outcome will be that EU three-strikes regulations will seem pretty generous after the lobbies get at the bill that fills this regulatory void. My presumed outcome is that ISP's will disable service if a subscriber is accused of being in violation of copyright. The threat of direct law suits are just too high to simply give nominal protection to their customers (a large number of whom actually violate copyright laws daily). Oh, but there's some form of arbitration which makes Youtube's take-down system seem fair and balanced.
This will be used to censor most speech the Trump Regi,e, sorry, administration, doesn't like. Censorship through financial ruin.
This is very bad news, particularly now that so many people get their news (fake and otherwise) via the Internet. I'd call this apocalyptic, but that word applies to so many things that are happening that it really seems redundant. It does, however, appear that that is another big nail of many in the coffin of American's freedom of speech, democracy, and rule of law, and another big step in our quest to become the world's most textbook example of a banana republic.
This is real news not this politicized stuff designed to mess with people's emotions. This stuff matters.
Indiana is the new blue print for Medicare...
Sucks to be us...
Cheap storage VM.
I can understand your reaction, I just wanted to point out that if you leave, the idiots win. That's how idiocracy is established and how they get all the airtime, because the sane people run away. Hang in there.
(Posting as AC because I have no account.. never bothered because of various reasons, among them the tendencies to reject posts depending on who wrote them, rather than their content. I guess I'm a fine one to talk. :/ )
Maybe if the left had fielded a better candidate, they would have one. As it was, they simply put up their own establishment player.
...you fedora tipping, neckbearded, MRA Anonymous 4chan jackholes?
There might be people ignorant enough to think you are serious.
I guess that is to be expected from a trump supporter, but you should realize that most people know better in this place.
that is because they report reality not made up BS that the willfully ignorant spew in order to pretend that they are, somehow, less embarrassing than they really are.
Just saying.
Democracy ... yeah, sure. Step off the opiods, grandpa!
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"Hell, after winning possibly the biggest upset in history, when what would otherwise be a time of celebration, its pretty evident that the anger of his supporters hasn't subsided a bit. The people who have lost are angry, yet orders of magnitude less angry than the winners."
Yep, the losers are so much less angry that they're not rioting, looting, and being a menace to society like a 4 year old that can't get its way. Oh wait...
As a European, yes, all true. But we have been reporting on Hilary for twenty years. A plague on both their houses is obvious.
What is Donald Trump's position on systemd?
This is OP again, I've decided to change my mind and I'm going to embrace the /. establishment. I'm also going to shove a pineapple up my ass.
Sure we give a crap. How could they sling BS if we don't provide them mountains of crap? Why say anything at all, whether truth or lie, if nobody cares and nobody is listening?
But show me someone running for office who is NOT a bullshitter. The fact is you can't successfully campaign and win votes without flinging poo at the other monkeys, and you can't survive 5 minutes in Washington without becoming an expert at it. You think Trump is worse than Hillary or any of the others? Think again. They have more experience and more practice. Maybe your BS detectors are desensitized. For all that the US public complains about BS they suck it up like candy. It's entertainment for republicans and democrats alike, and it fuels fanboys (and fangirls) and haters. Everyone loves to be a hater, and everyone loves to worship their preferred idol. Copious shoveling of BS makes it so much easier to do both.
I can only speak for myself, and yes I care. I just accept it is a fact of life that (at this point) we can do nothing about. If there was a straight shooter who also had ethical character AND sense, yeah I'd be all over that. But come now, you have to admit that those three things (in combination) are nonexistent in politics. So we take what we can get, make the best of a smelly situation, try and pick someone who will minimize the damage and maybe do something we care about. Do I really think Trump will do anything good? Shrug. Beats me. Time will tell. But I am sure that the other candidates would do more harm. Amazing as it sounds, Trump seems the most harmless.
We don't have to agree, so flame away if it makes you feel better. Call me stupid if doing so makes you feel smart. I care not.
You call them idiots for believing everything he says, yet they say they don't. I think there is something you are not understanding.
After 8 years of Republican obstructionism to absolutely anything that Obama did --
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ELEVENTY11!!
We have mods, just don't read the zealot posts that are modded down.
Slashdot has been shit since around the time CmdrTaco left.
That is about right.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
But that is just the point.
Interesting comments get modded down for not conforming to this or that zealots liking
Has nothing to do with actual content or quality of the post so much as perception of content in many cases.
Some are just hunkered down in ideologic bunkers sniping whenever anything they don't think they approve of passes their way.