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US Economy Added 178,000 Jobs in November; Unemployment Rate Drops To 4.6 Percent (washingtonpost.com)

The U.S. economy added 178,000 jobs in November, while the unemployment rate fell to 4.6 percent from 4.9 percent the previous month, according to new government data released (Editor's note: the link could be paywalled; alternate source) Friday morning. From a report on the Washington Post: Economists surveyed by Bloomberg News had expected U.S. employers to create 180,000 new jobs last month -- roughly in line with the average number added in the first 11 months of the year. The first release after a contentious election in which the candidates disputed the health and direction of the economy, the data showed a job market that is continuing to steadily strengthen from the recession. The unemployment rate fell to levels not seen since August 2007, before a bubble in the U.S. housing market began to burst. The fall was driven partly by the creation of new jobs, and partly by people retiring and otherwise leaving the labor force. The labor force participation rate ticked down to 62.7 percent. Average hourly earnings declined by 3 cents to $25.89. The decrease pared back large gains seen in October, but over the year average hourly earnings are still up 2.5 percent, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said.

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  1. Re:That can't be right by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unemployment numbers are a bit worse off today than they were when Obama took office, regardless of which measure you look at.

    In what world?

    Want to use U-6 unemployment? Nope, not that one either.

    Obama inherited the largest economic recession since the Great Depression. And the US is now out of it. Now you can argue over whether someone else could have done it faster or not. But let's not lie about the facts.

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  2. Re:That can't be right by jeff4747 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unemployment numbers are a bit worse off today than they were when Obama took office

    Nope. U3 in January 2009 was 7.9% U3 today is 4.6%. Here's a graph of U3 during Obama's time in office.

    The Employment-population ratio is down significantly, but that doesn't necessarily indicate people who want work can't find it. Things like "retirement" and "wages that don't cover daycare" come in to play.

  3. Re:That can't be right by ranton · · Score: 5, Informative

    We need another moderation choice called "Inaccurate".

    Even your own link refutes what you are saying. Obama was sworn in on January 20th 2009, so even if you foolishly believe Obama's policies affected the unemployment rate on day 1, his first U6 unemployment numbers (for Feb '09) were at 15.2%. That is compared to 9.3% in November 2016. And if you even give Obama's new policies six months to start affecting the economy, Obama more realistically started with a 16.7% U6 unemployment.

    By any measure, unemployment is far better than it was when Obama took office.

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  4. Re:Surprised by jeff4747 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Isn't the number of people who are not working a more important number?

    No. Because there are some people who are not "working" and do not want a job. The retired, independently wealthy, people caring for their children or elderly family members, etc.

    When the BLS runs their survey for "unemployment", they produce several different statistics. The one that gets printed in headlines is called U3.

    People who would work if they could find a job, or are working fewer hours than they would like, are included in U6. Here's U6.

    You are talking about the employment/population ratio. A high employment/population ratio is not necessarily a "good" economy, and a low one is not necessarily a "bad" economy. Here's the employment/population ratio. You'll note that during the economic boom of the 1950s and 1960s, the employment/population ratio was lower than it is today.

  5. Re:Trump! by NatasRevol · · Score: 5, Informative

    In stark contrast, Obama bailed out GM, kept all 1.5 million jobs, got them to pay back the loans. With interest.

    But yay for Carrier not shipping ALL their jobs to Mexico and providing a blueprint for every other company to milk the 'conservative' new government. Can Apple get a $1T tax break?

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